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alyasa 11.02.2007 06:21 AM

In Utero Appreciation thread
 
 


Great rock album or greatest rock album? :) Discuss...

ZEROpumpkins 11.02.2007 06:28 AM

Best Nirvana album. Nevermind is greatly overrated.

finding nobody 11.02.2007 06:41 AM

Great stuff.. I feel everybody has said everything about nirvana.


^my 2 cents

nicfit 11.02.2007 06:44 AM

Best nirvana album.
Great sounds and nice reference to Suskind.
That's all I have to say :D .
No way near the greatest rock albums, but still a pretty good rockin' thing.

alyasa 11.02.2007 06:46 AM

I have to disagree... Nirvana created a masterpiece of abrasion and aggression on In Utero, managed to look good doing it, and still remained nice guys you could have a cup of coffee with...

nicfit 11.02.2007 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
I have to disagree... Nirvana created a masterpiece of abrasion and aggression on In Utero, managed to look good doing it, and still remained nice guys you could have a cup of coffee with...

And this is "in disagreement" with... what? :confused:

alyasa 11.02.2007 06:52 AM

With that... ;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
No way near the greatest rock albums,


nicfit 11.02.2007 06:56 AM

Ah! :D
Well, that does not imply that it's not a great rock album, it's just that I rank as "greatest" stuff more "seminal" (just an example, the obvious WL/WH) in a way. Just a matter of povs I guess.

edit: the fact that I credit part of the "goodness" of the sound to albini's production might affect my judgment. :(

alyasa 11.02.2007 06:58 AM

You have a point... But as a modern classic... Ahh, but...We're still reaching modern, aren't we all? :)

sarramkrop 11.02.2007 07:00 AM

Please!

alyasa 11.02.2007 07:03 AM

It's populist, I'll give you that... But it's sonic goodness, on an unprecedented scale... It's one of the more important rock albums for the 21st century... So far...

sarramkrop 11.02.2007 07:05 AM

I wasn't refering to In Utero, which is an album that I love but rarely listen to, anymore.

alyasa 11.02.2007 07:07 AM

:) Point taken... I'll keep the post-post-modern references to myself...

PAULYBEE2656 11.02.2007 07:54 AM

point of fact... in utero wasnt a 21st century recording was it??? it was 1993 right???????

it is not the most important rock album evr. its a fucking damn fine beast of an album engineered by a master and played by a shit hot band . it is a far better album in general than nevermind. its populist????? i dont agree, its only populist because the name of te band, in utero tends to be really forgotten about by folk who are into nirvana the product, yknow who i mean,,, the kids that wore nirvana shirts whilst listening to guns and roses, whitesnake and the like... i could never understand the fascination for hair metal and heavy metal kids to like nirvana. nirvana always were more punk than that for me.........

anyway... in utero.......... fuckig great, im actualy gonna listen to the albini cut of it right now, skip to scentless tho, that song is nirvanas peak!

alyasa 11.02.2007 08:06 AM

It's not 21st century, technically, but its importance persists to this century...
EDIT: By the way, Nevermind was a great rock album too... It's not just a punk album, that would be missing the point, I think..

h8kurdt 11.02.2007 08:21 AM

My 2nd fav album off all time. After Dj Shadow's Endtroducing album.

atari 2600 11.02.2007 09:27 AM

yep
yep yep

alyasa 11.02.2007 10:10 AM

<3 .

Rob Instigator 11.02.2007 10:11 AM

bores me to tears.

I do not appreciate it one bit

Kylerobert 11.02.2007 10:24 AM

Ouch Rob... I think its great, Tourettes gets me going.

StevOK 11.02.2007 10:26 AM

I am actually starting to lean towards Incesticide.
But In Utero is mighty fine.

HaydenAsche 11.02.2007 10:48 AM

I wouldn't go so far as to say In Utero is the greatest rock album. In fact, probably not even near the top. Ha. Best Nirvana album, though.

nicfit 11.02.2007 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
I wouldn't go so far as to say In Utero is the greatest rock album. In fact, probably not even near the top. Ha. Best Nirvana album, though.

stop stealing my lines!

sarramkrop 11.02.2007 11:09 AM

It might be that I was so massively into them at the time that they were still kicking around, but I love both Nevermind and In Utero in equal measure. Bleach is a good album too, but i prefer those too. They also had to be witnessed playing Nevermind live, if you really think that those songs aren't up to scratch.

Pax Americana 11.02.2007 11:39 AM

Best Nirvana album, in my opinion. Love it.
Best rock album of all time though? Nah.

krastian 11.02.2007 11:41 AM

When this first came out I was consumed with trying to perfect the drums to Scentless Apprentice. It's a lot harder to pull off than you'd think.

Dave will always be one of my drummer heroes.

SynthethicalY 11.02.2007 12:37 PM

Best fucking Album. It blew my mind when I heard it.

atsonicpark 11.02.2007 12:49 PM

boring. there's a couple okay songs, but it sounds like they're trying so hard to appeal to their early fans AND their nevermind fans -- and it doesn't work. i really dig the drums/drum sound, of course, but as a whole, the album is boring and .. i mean, rape me, heart-shaped box, pennyroyal tea, tourettes, and all apologies are amongst the worst songs nirvana wrote, so..

bleach is a really good album, and "from the muddy banks of the wishkah" is actually really good, but i think incesticide has thier best songs.

Rob Instigator 11.02.2007 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Best fucking Album. It blew my mind when I heard it.


were you 11 years old?

forkimified 11.02.2007 01:30 PM

Probably my favourite and most-listened-to album of all time. I Still have it on tape, which is starting to die from constantly repeated plays in my walkman, and sometimes if I don't change the tape, it'll be the only album I hear for weeks :p.

Definitely my favourite album, but that's probably also because it's nearly impossible to choose a single favourite Sonic Youth product...

And as a second-place Nirvana album, I'd pick unplugged.

....

forkimified 11.02.2007 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
were you 11 years old?


I think a lot of the most hardcore Nirvana fans are probably people who first heard them in grade school, and it was their first taste of alternative or heavy/distorted music with yelling and whatnot. I know that was the case for me.

One of my friends had only listened to classical music and oldies before he started listening to Nirvana in highschool. Now he has every Nirvana release, listens to and creates post-punk/new wave/noise rock whatever-music...

It's a great gateway album into new and interesting things. And if you ever read any books about Nirvana and whatnot, it pulls you out of the mainstream world into a crazy world of magical and adventurous artists you've never heard of before, and gives kids the idea that even THEY can create music that could become popular.

Yay Nirvana!

Rob Instigator 11.02.2007 01:47 PM

alll very very true.

I first heard Bleach in 11th grade, and nevermind shortly thereafter. Loved them both. wore out the cassettes, but they were never relevatory to me, having already been listening to sonic youth and jane's addiction and shit.

I have never been able to sit through al of in utero. I find the production terrible, and a wack attempt to sound like smashing pumpkins' records. (sound quality wise) I know there is something floating on the internet with steve albini's original recording of In Utero, but I have never heard it. It may change my mind somewhat.

I liken Nirvana to JD salinger. Both wrote self-tortured anthems for angst-ridden painfully over-emotional teenagers. I just got sick of both their whining.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.02.2007 01:52 PM

in utero is to 90s music what Paranoid was to 70s music.

SynthethicalY 11.02.2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forkimified
I think a lot of the most hardcore Nirvana fans are probably people who first heard them in grade school, and it was their first taste of alternative or heavy/distorted music with yelling and whatnot. I know that was the case for me.

One of my friends had only listened to classical music and oldies before he started listening to Nirvana in highschool. Now he has every Nirvana release, listens to and creates post-punk/new wave/noise rock whatever-music...

It's a great gateway album into new and interesting things. And if you ever read any books about Nirvana and whatnot, it pulls you out of the mainstream world into a crazy world of magical and adventurous artists you've never heard of before, and gives kids the idea that even THEY can create music that could become popular.

Yay Nirvana!


Yes that is how it was for me when I listened to Nirvana in the Tenth grade. It blew my mind, before I was listening to all these pop-pink bands like Green Day, Blink 182 and all that shit. When I found them, I started looking for interviews and whatnot. Finally I read books about them and discover other bands. Through interviews I first heard of Sonic Youth. Then I heard 100% and it blew me away. I agree that if you really get into nirvana you it will be a gateway to other greater bands.

Rob Instigator 11.02.2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
in utero is to 90s music what Paranoid was to 70s music.


therefore iN uTERO IE TO BLAME FOR EVERY FUCKING SHIT EMO BAND IN THE 90'S????

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.02.2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
therefore iN uTERO IE TO BLAME FOR EVERY FUCKING SHIT EMO BAND IN THE 90'S????


unfortunately yes! exactly! but that shouldn't discredit in utero, I mean does the crappy music from the 70s discredit paranoid?

Everyneurotic 11.02.2007 02:39 PM

good album but flawed.

rape me has to be their worst song ever. "hey guys, let's re-write smells like teen spirit but have riot grrrl lyrics over them! yeah, it's going to be a hit AND have social awareness!!!!"

i have the tape and the cd, something i can't say about the rest of nirvana's oevre (nevermind on tape, bleach and incesticide on cd-r) and definitely my most listened album of theirs. albini's production is top notch.

Rob Instigator 11.02.2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
unfortunately yes! exactly! but that shouldn't discredit in utero, I mean does the crappy music from the 70s discredit paranoid?


paranoid had nothing to do with air supply. or foreigner, or YES, or prog rock, or any of the disco, or any other fucking shit music in the 70's!!!

it did influence, judass priest, motorhead, iron maiden, etc.

Rob Instigator 11.02.2007 02:50 PM

albini's opriginal production is NOT on In Utero. They had someone else come in and re-master everything after albini was done.

SynthethicalY 11.02.2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
were you 11 years old?


Read My response Forkimified, and his as well.


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