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pbradley 11.09.2007 04:28 AM

Nevermind, momentary silliness.
 
Move along.


Or you can actually talk about shoegazing, why not. Since, as per the rumors of the MBV album, what are some good, modern shoegazing bands that I can listen to in order to get pumped for this hopeful release? I have the Fleeting Joy's Despondent Transponder but is there anything else of note out there?

sarramkrop 11.09.2007 04:36 AM

Ironically, throwing the word gay around is as lame as this thread.

pbradley 11.09.2007 04:45 AM

But then the awful pun wouldn't work.


But it was far too silly. And you people seem to hate silliness over all other things. I'll try to be more proper and boring.

ZEROpumpkins 11.09.2007 06:16 AM

I stop at MBV. I'm convinced that I won't like any other shoegaze as I'll keep comparing it to MBV.

PAULYBEE2656 11.09.2007 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
I stop at MBV. I'm convinced that I won't like any other shoegaze as I'll keep comparing it to MBV.


you have a lot to learn my child......


another shoegaze thread, oh well........

slowdive
early boo radleys
drop nineteens
moose
flying saucer attack
agruably grouper?????
early ride
catherine wheel

oh fuck it, im gonna search for the rest..............

gualbert 11.09.2007 09:45 AM

I don't like Boo Radleys ( "Learning to walk" CD , anyone's interested ? )
MBV have a great sound but poor songs.
Ride is cool.
LOOP too ( not sure they're labeled shoegaze however )

StevOK 11.09.2007 12:11 PM

Pale Saints

Oh, also, there's this French black-metal/shoegaze artist that goes by Alcest. <- check it out!

Danny Himself 11.09.2007 12:15 PM

Galaxie 500. It's all you need.

nick2767 11.09.2007 02:49 PM

LOOP too ( not sure they're labeled shoegaze however )[/quote]

Yeah, they were far too pretentious to get drawn in to being part of a scene or label. But the live Loop performance certainly contained plenty of downward staring.

atsonicpark 11.09.2007 03:53 PM

uhm... I'm not going to only list new things, I'm going to list some of my favorites though..

Astrobrite
Band of Susans [not totally shoegaze but has some elements]
Catherine Wheel
Coaltar of the Deepers ["breakstroke"-era; they turned into a pop/death metal band later]
Chapterhouse
Curve
Fennesz [which is more like glitch-shoegaze]
Fleeting Joys
Galaxie 500
Hum [space rock/shoegaze]
Jesu ["shoegaze metal"]
Loop
Loveliescrushing [HIGHLY RECCOMENDED]
Lush [early; their later stuff sounds like Placebo or something]
M83 [some]
On Air library
Ride
Rumahaskib [i know i spelled that wrong; it's more electronic-inflected shoegaze type stuff]
Slowdive
Spacemen 3
Spiritualized [more space rock than shoegaze but definitely has that vibe]
STAR
Starflyer 59
Stars of the Lid [only their first work approaches shoegaze; for the most part, it's just really really beautiful ambient, but it's worth seeking out]
Swervedriver
Swirl
Swirlies
Velvet Cacoon [some; they went from shoegaze to black metal and apparently made some fake albums as well -- whatever]
Verve

SYRFox 11.09.2007 04:09 PM

My Bloody Valentine of course, and Slowdive! Ride were very good too, and Boo Radleys too. From the recent scene I really enjoy Amusement Parks On Fire (especially the first album) and the fantastic Experimental Aircraft

nick2767 11.09.2007 04:11 PM

Atsonicpark has laid down a good full house with that list (not sure I'd agree about BOS though, might have to discuss that one!).

I'd add Pluramon - Dreams Top Rock. It came out a few years ago and Julee Cruise sings an a track a two, if remember rightly.

M83 - Before the Dawn Heals Us is a great album. I often have that on whilst travelling on the underground or train at night. Just seems to capture the mood so right.

atsonicpark 11.09.2007 04:25 PM

Well, Band of Susans had the huge guitar walls, so that's the only reason I lumped them in there. Unless you're debating whether they're good or not. I REALLY like "Here Comes Success" and "Hope Against Hope", though I think all their albums are fantastic -- they're not the best vocalists in the world though...

gmku 11.09.2007 05:26 PM

George Harrison started it.

Torn Curtain 11.09.2007 06:38 PM

Not mentioned: Kitchens of distinction

StevOK 11.09.2007 08:40 PM

Anyone mention Moose?

dazedcola 11.09.2007 08:54 PM

Serena Maneesh are the best modern shoegaze band. All you people waiting for the new MBV record should check out their debut record first to relieve some tension. Its a great record that takes influence but isnt derivative of the band.

Norma J 11.09.2007 09:05 PM

I don't fully understand all the Loveless love.

ScreamingSchool 11.10.2007 06:26 AM

Shoegaze? check out Bailter Space, then. No, seriously. Check them out. Definitive shoegaze band.

shentov 11.10.2007 07:23 AM

in Bulgaria they call us (KPD-0) shoegaze. i think there might be two reasons for that.
1- we DO do stare at our shoes while performing
2- i once had to explain the term shoegaze in a radio show for almost half an hour.

result: i'm alreday afraid to call our style 'math rock' and sticked to 'shoegaze'

ha ha

atsonicpark 11.10.2007 09:45 AM

You don't understand the Loveless love, eh? Basically, it's the DEFINITION of shoegaze. That's why it's so highly regarded. I personally think it's not the best thing they ever did (in fact, I'd rank it near the bottom of MBV's recorded output -- the drums are too tinny and some of the vocal samples are annoying). However, Isn't Anything, in my eyes, is fucking PERFECT. I don't want to get into an argument or anything. I'm just saying.. Loveless "invented" shoegaze; maybe not INVENTED but... it's the record every other shoegaze acts rips off.

And for the record, it's the best fucking album cover ever..

Stijn 11.10.2007 10:58 AM

A Place To Bury Strangers deserves some checking out

gmku 11.10.2007 02:47 PM

I was serious when I said George Harrison started it. Check out any of his Indian influenced stuff, even the poppier songs with an Indian influence. And in songs where he deliberately slows things up, like Blue Jay Way.

PAULYBEE2656 11.10.2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Schroeder's Cat


YES! old irish band. simon is a good buddy of mine. his new album under the title si schroeder is amazing!

atsonicpark 11.10.2007 05:41 PM

agreed :)

Jt 11.10.2007 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
Not mentioned: Kitchens of distinction


Noted. Love Is Hell.

Oh, and the track Margaret's Injection by those guys is sublime.

auto-aim 11.11.2007 08:56 AM

I only really, really love MBV. I know a lot of people love Slowdive, but I don't really get why they're so, so great. Boo Radleys - I've got one of their albums and I just found them really fucking annoying, though I can't say i've listened to it for a good while and maybe my tastes have refined since.... Haven't really checked out many of the others though Curve sound really cool I've been meaning to get something of theirs.. And also does anyone know if the Lilys are any good? I've heard a few things and they sound kind of like shoegaze crossbred (sorry) with the breeders or throwing muses or something like that.

PAULYBEE2656 11.11.2007 11:42 AM

lilys are ok. not major...
try the pale saints, heavenly, velocity girl (only the first album)

as for boo radleys, im talking everythings alright forever and giant steps... NOT WAKE UP FUCKING BOO!

curve are good, the album cuckoo isok, doppelganger is pretty good but their album of early e.p.s is excellent, pubic fruit. anything else is twiddle twaddle oxfam bargain bin 50p territory... like most shoegaze!

auto-aim 11.11.2007 06:17 PM

It's C'mon Kid's that I've got... i cant bring myself around to putting it on because in a single moment in time I dont think I've hated an album more than that one.

atsonicpark 03.20.2008 09:41 AM

bump.

Also, "I don't understand all the loveless love"; I agree with this. It is the quintessential shoegaze album and the most influential, but it's not near as good as Isn't Anything or You Made Me Realize EP... Loveless has about 4 or 5 songs that do absolutely nothing for me.

whorefrost 06.18.2008 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jt
Noted. Love Is Hell.

Oh, and the track Margaret's Injection by those guys is sublime.


I just came across Kitchens of Distinction on MTV2. Great stuff. Must check out an album. Also, I have heard a Bailter Space track on some compilation, it was fairly excellent.. ditto Flying Saucer Attack..

I reckon I could be quite into some shoegaze stuff, must make sure to get some of these records..

Cantankerous 06.18.2008 08:06 PM

loveless would sound stupid if the drums weren't "tinny"


thee heavenly music association
mbv
slowdive
curve (not shoegaze specifically but leaned towards it)
lilys
loop (also leaned toward it but don't fit in the genre)

ni'k 06.18.2008 08:10 PM

lush's early stuff is good. have loads of curve recs, promos and remixs and shit. the song horrorhead is GREAT. the rest is hit or miss.

the telescopes were great back in the day.

catherine wheel - overrated.

but the BEST shoegaze band of all is the swirlies. mbv shouldnt be lumped in with shoegaze at all anymore - they've got more affinity with noise.

the ikara cult 06.18.2008 08:16 PM

I feel slightly ashamed being a MBV fan knowing that there are this many morons who care about an effects pedal
Im going to the Roundhouse on Monday and im gonna stand at the back away from said idiots and im going to enjoy the sound.
If you want to do air guitar, Saxxon are probably doing a tour

ni'k 06.18.2008 08:19 PM

did you mean me or were you agreeing with me?

acousticrock87 06.18.2008 10:01 PM

I dunno. I went through my MBV kick, and I still like a few choice songs--the first half of Isn't Anything is decent. But for the most part I can't stand them anymore. And I'm not trying to start shit; I completely respect that people love them. I just think, in retrospect, they're frickin annoying. I don't like his lyrics, I don't like his voice. Their infamous signature sound is, in effect, slightly tonal white noise. Same with Psychocandy. Even the Reids didn't take that CD seriously.

Sonic Youth 37 06.18.2008 10:06 PM

Asobi Seksu

Also, atsonicpark mentioned Astrobrite and lovesliescrushing, these are excellent as well, although the newer lovesliescrushing is more electronic sounding, but Astrobrite is gaze to the soul.

Cantankerous 06.18.2008 10:35 PM

http://cdbaby.com/cd/theehma


best. ever.

Florya 06.19.2008 12:41 AM

spc eco


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