Sonic Youth Gossip

Sonic Youth Gossip (http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/index.php)
-   Non-Sonics (http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   do you take issue with your own gender? (http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=17662)

pantophobia 11.10.2007 02:20 PM

do you take issue with your own gender?
 
even hate, even if it is a strong word?

I was reading a few things about this and have seen it first hand
someone i knew, this woman, hates her own gender, she is in the music scene almost completely male driven and testosterone fueled, she once said "she hasn't met a single intelligent girl with the exception of you" referring to my other female friend, and i haven't talked to her in years and hasn't exactly made an effort to talk either

it is a certain aspect of so called cattiness that is intriguing in women, but does exist somewhat in males

on the other side of the chromosome, it's a certain disconnect with my own gender, a certain way to act, and to talk, and how i use sports (mostly for any person i don't know) or music (in the scene) as an ice-breaker, it's just seems easier to talk to women

what of you?

Danny Himself 11.10.2007 02:28 PM

I get along better with girls. It's widely assumed that I'm gay because of this, and the fact I'm single and neat. Cue Seinfeld theme tune.

Guys I know, with the exception of a few (Stephen), are easy to talk to too, but then I hit a wall with them and am soon alienated.

h8kurdt 11.10.2007 02:30 PM

Hmm, well I have men I dislike as well as women, but it also work the otherway round. To be honest I have the same amount of female friends as I do male.

So I'm guessing you're a lass?

h8kurdt 11.10.2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself
I get along better with girls. It's widely assumed that I'm gay because of this, and the fact I'm single and neat. Cue Seinfeld theme tune.

Guys I know, with the exception of a few (Stephen), are easy to talk to too, but then I hit a wall with them and am soon alienated.


Really? I really never expected that.

pantophobia 11.10.2007 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
So I'm guessing you're a lass?


me? no i am a laddie

h8kurdt 11.10.2007 02:35 PM

Ah so

Danny Himself 11.10.2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Really? I really never expected that.


Dun dun dun. Well, once people get to know me more they work it out, but I guess from afar it's confusing, since most of my friends are girls or gay guys. I don't gel well with sports dudez.

h8kurdt 11.10.2007 02:56 PM

So if we became proper pals as opposed to comrades in the SY war what would I be. Sure I may be confused about the whole gay thing but that doesn't mean I am and the last time I checked I still have a meat and spuds. I'm also not a sports dude. So?

luxinterior 11.10.2007 03:13 PM

Most of my close friends have been girls. Of course, my best friend is a gay girl, and a few of the other ones are gay as well. I guess that's worth mentioning. Most of my friends in high school only started hanging out with me because they were convinced I was as gay as they were. I wasn't, but they didn't hold that against me. With that said, I do have some trouble relating to females in general. I grew up with three brothers so that may have something to do with it. I also missed out on a lot of the things girls usually get involved in because it wasn't/isn't to my interest. Still, no hard feelings. I defend my gender whenever people put us down. I think I treat other girls very well. I'm very hard on the boys though, at first. Just to see if they can take it or not. If they can, we can be friends.

PAULYBEE2656 11.10.2007 04:19 PM

im genderfree. dont care if they are male or female, there is wankers in both pots. i get on well with whomever gets on well with me.

jennthebenn 11.10.2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantophobia
even hate, even if it is a strong word?

I was reading a few things about this and have seen it first hand
someone i knew, this woman, hates her own gender, she is in the music scene almost completely male driven and testosterone fueled, she once said "she hasn't met a single intelligent girl with the exception of you" referring to my other female friend


the greatest backhanded compliment i've ever received in my life, right up
there with the guy who told me, "i don't normally like talking to big girls, but
you seem really cool."

dumb silly women bother me more than dumb silly guys, and i'm convinced
that's based off nothing more than the fact of them being female. some part of me can always hear the recriminations narrow-minded guys use to
belittle women, and seeing women live down to that standard just feels like
a loss.

a very difficult thing for me to elaborate on over a messageboard! ha. a
very prickly patch to maneuver.

Danny Himself 11.10.2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
So if we became proper pals as opposed to comrades in the SY war what would I be. Sure I may be confused about the whole gay thing but that doesn't mean I am and the last time I checked I still have a meat and spuds. I'm also not a sports dude. So?


I meant generally the guys I am mixed with in community college and all that, they're mostly that kind of 'sporty tough guy' kind of knob that I can't carry a conversation with. I did say there are exceptions, also. I do have close male friends. And if there was an SY war and we became proper pals, then we'd be proper pals!

I meant in my first reply I generally find it easier to befriend girls and people are always telling me they thought I was gay when they first met me.

atsonicpark 11.10.2007 05:52 PM

People get too worked up over this kinda stuff. We're all just people, period, and there's as many lousy, fucked-up, scummy dudes as their are idiotic, senseless, ridiculous females. We're all in the same shithole. I've met people of both genders that are completely worthless and are completely decent. Though, for what it's worth, the absolute best person AND the absolute worst person I've met happen to both be females. Extremeeeee.

I think when I was a younger person, girls meant a lot more to me. I wanted to fit in with them. I wanted to be them, perhaps. I kinda got over that after I put all my heart and soul into a relationship with one and she cheated on me, which fucked up my trusting of people for a long time. That... was a shitty experience. And as much as I go, "Yeah, it's just life, move on, whatever, who cares" as I say in every thread like this (and at the top of this thread), that was an emotional scar that I had to deal with for half a fucking decade. I'm over it now, but ... yeah.

Anyway, I think the sooner everyone in the world admits that they're at LEAST somewhat gay, the sooner we will get to peace between the genders. And then we can focus on things that are actually important. Like Thinking Fellers Union Local # 282.

!@#$%! 11.10.2007 05:55 PM

as a man, i prefer the company of women: they smell nicer. but i do have male friends, usually the non-dickhead types. there's really no option available for me in that survey, i'm afraid.

atsonicpark 11.10.2007 06:10 PM

indeed, the smell helps..

pbradley 11.10.2007 06:55 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty good at naturally making friends good, honest people on both sides of the aisle.

Anngella 11.10.2007 07:08 PM

I have more closer friends that are guys, and almost every girl I know is catty in some way and it's rather obnoxious. I do know a select few girls who are very rad and intelligent, but as far as the percentage of all the females I know goes, they're mostly mindless bimbos. I do know a lot of asshole guys, though. At least at my school. However, I take pride in my gender and defend it when need be (just like someone else said).

EMMAh 11.10.2007 07:23 PM

I said that I hate those cunts. I don't hate all girls, but a large portion of them piss me right the fuck off. I only really hang out with girls who're chill.

Alex's Trip 11.10.2007 07:45 PM

I don't really generalize with gender. Half of the world isn't one way, and the other half another. All guys and girls have diverse personalities, so I don't hate one gender more than the other.

I hate the male stereotype, just as much the female stereotype as well.

h8kurdt 11.11.2007 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself
I meant generally the guys I am mixed with in community college and all that, they're mostly that kind of 'sporty tough guy' kind of knob that I can't carry a conversation with. I did say there are exceptions, also. I do have close male friends. And if there was an SY war and we became proper pals, then we'd be proper pals!

I meant in my first reply I generally find it easier to befriend girls and people are always telling me they thought I was gay when they first met me.



*fonz thumbs up* eyy

Danny Himself 11.11.2007 11:23 AM

Eyyy.

jon boy 11.11.2007 01:25 PM

sometimes i am ashamed to have a dick. i mean this in relation to when i see men act like the way they do sometimes.

Kloriel 11.11.2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxinterior
I'm very hard on the boys though, at first. Just to see if they can take it or not. If they can, we can be friends.


How empathically in tune of you.

sarramkrop 11.12.2007 06:56 AM

I much prefer girls on so many levels, I am still not sure as to why I never fancied sleeping with one.

gualbert 11.12.2007 08:05 AM

I take issue almost exclusively with my own gender: the virtual , binary human being , stuck in front of a screen.

Inhuman 11.12.2007 09:17 AM

I just hate the stereotype of either gender. It annoys me when women feel obligated to be "girly" and have to act/dress a certain way to be recognized as women. And it's the same with men. Doing everything they can to satisfy their testosterone. It's kind of an embarrasment to hear about so many male rapists, terrorists, criminals, murderers, etc... Does it change the overall outlook on males? I think so.

val-holla-ing 11.12.2007 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself
I get along better with girls. It's widely assumed that I'm gay because of this, and the fact I'm single and neat. Cue Seinfeld theme tune.

Guys I know, with the exception of a few (Stephen), are easy to talk to too, but then I hit a wall with them and am soon alienated.


we're in the same boat, man...sans the seinfeld theme. i've never seen that show.

floatingslowly 11.12.2007 10:01 AM

as soon as mah woman is done fixin' me a sammich, imma go watch some football on mah big screen teevee.

GIRLY-MENS!

Everyneurotic 11.12.2007 10:47 AM

i don't like way too many things about manhood or whatever, and surely i sometimes feel i can't relate when things turn into sports or other macho shit. but i mostly get along with guys.

i relate more to girls in that way, and get along with them too; probably more openly than with guys.

i dunno, i really can't say either one gender.

krastian 11.12.2007 02:20 PM

I get along great with everybody as long as they aren't pricks.

girlgun 11.12.2007 05:08 PM

i'm most definitely a man's woman. i've always gotten along better with men, but it's not because i don't like women and i certainly don't take any issue with them.... just merely preference. i have more than enough girl friends, but i feel a lot more comfortable with males than i do females. now i used to take issue with women... and i thought women were catty etc. but as i've gotten older i've found that women are really not any more catty than men.

Rob Instigator 11.12.2007 05:18 PM

men may be as catty as women but men cannot hold a candle to the flaming blowtorch that is women's ability to engage in deeply vicious and cruelly malicious torture of a girl they do not like anymore.

girlgun 11.12.2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
men may be as catty as women but men cannot hold a candle to the flaming blowtorch that is women's ability to engage in deeply vicious and cruelly malicious torture of a girl they do not like anymore.


it's a beautiful thing. ;)

i do believe women are much more complicated than men. i certainly don't take issue with this.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 11.12.2007 05:20 PM

this thread gives me a headache

Savage Clone 11.12.2007 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
men may be as catty as women but men cannot hold a candle to the flaming blowtorch that is women's ability to engage in deeply vicious and cruelly malicious torture of a girl they do not like anymore.



I take it you were never physically bullied?


I have more issues with people in general, and I have problems with gender roles in general.
No one can help the way they were born, to whom they were born or where they were born.
I carry no guilt for these givens and take no inordinate amount of pride in them either.

Rob Instigator 11.12.2007 05:30 PM

I was physically bullied, but that compares naught to the evil that grown ass women can perpetrate upon their "friends"

Savage Clone 11.12.2007 05:31 PM

Oh!
I thought we were talking about adolescents.
Thanks for clearing that up.

Toilet & Bowels 11.12.2007 05:38 PM

i don't take issue with either gender. i'm an open minded misanthrope.

touch me i'm sick 11.12.2007 08:41 PM

it really depends. girls are notorious for causing drama over stupid shit. although there are a select few who don't. maybe i'm just exposed to bitches and need to meet nicer ladies. i tend to hang out mostly with guys though.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:55 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content ©2006 Sonic Youth