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atsonicpark 11.11.2007 08:19 AM

this guy that ripped me off.. you can help..
 
finished.

PAULYBEE2656 11.11.2007 08:26 AM

what a bastard!

alyasa 11.11.2007 09:28 AM

Thanks for the info, it might help ppl avoid a similar situation later; and avoid this guy altogether....

The Usher 11.11.2007 10:47 AM

I know this guy sounds like an asshole, but why did you leave it so long to report him to paypal? Man, I'm so impatient to get stuff I've paid for, if it takes more than a week I always email the seller saying I'm going to report you to paypal in two days unless I receive my order, and what a surprise, it alway turns up.
You should totally use paypal to report people, afterall, you're paying a percentage of every transaction to paypal so you might aswell use them when things don't turn up.

finding nobody 11.11.2007 11:00 AM

I'm adding him so I can leave him a comment.
Somethin like "Hey, give AC his 17 dollars you godamn con artist!"

nicfit 11.11.2007 11:05 AM

I'm glad I don't owe you money, adam.

Everyneurotic 11.11.2007 12:09 PM

i thought it was about the guy from teenage whore tapes against troubleman unlimited.

anyhoo, i remember when he released the electrocutionerdz dvd and he was posting a bulleting twice a day, begging for people to buy it.

HaydenAsche 11.11.2007 02:04 PM

What a cunt. I'l annoy him to no end I got nothing better to do.

!@#$%! 11.11.2007 02:52 PM

man what the fuck-- fuck him up good.

will send him messages from one of my spam-friendly emails

fuckit man you waited a year? youre a saint...

pbradley 11.11.2007 02:58 PM

Go to one of his shows and bring some hired goons.

avantgarde1 11.11.2007 04:32 PM

just sent him an email through good ol myspace. "pay what you owe, fucktard". i remember i got ripped off for $100 once on the old board. this was like 4 or 5 years ago, he use to post pretty often so i figured it'd be ok... i sent him $100 for a 4 track, and never heard from him again. he lived in canada too... fucking canucks! :)

atsonicpark 11.11.2007 04:56 PM

yeah, I waited a year because, like I said, he kept sending me emails, "man, sorry for the delay!! I work two jobs! My dad died! I was in the hospital!" blah blah blah. I mean, I'd talked to this guy before, he didn't seem like the con artist type.. it sucks when you trust people... sigh.

atsonicpark 11.11.2007 04:57 PM

but yeah, thanks for the support everyone.

Savage Clone 11.11.2007 05:00 PM

It's super lame and everything and I'm not defending this guy in the least, but isn't this an awful lot of effort and energy to expend over 17 bucks?
I could see if it was 170 or 1700, but for $17, I would just cut my losses and move on. I don't know that I would write endless emails and start a web campaign to bring the guy down.

pbradley 11.11.2007 05:09 PM

Break his knee caps.

avantgarde1 11.11.2007 06:15 PM

what you need to do is get all tony soprano on his ass. shouldn't be too hard... everybody knows a guy, who knows a guy... ya know what i mean? :)

atsonicpark 11.11.2007 06:23 PM

yeah, i addressed this though, man: it's not the $17. it's the fact i was giving him money to help his label, me just being a nice guy period, and getting walked on for it. not to mention that i'm not the only guy he ripped off. it IS just $17 -- but maybe it'll make him think, 'holy shit, this dude's annoying the fuck out of me over just $17... maybe i shouldn't rip people off anymore.' i mean, either way, he is technically a FELON.

Savage Clone 11.11.2007 06:44 PM

Understood.

!@#$%! 11.11.2007 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
It's super lame and everything and I'm not defending this guy in the least, but isn't this an awful lot of effort and energy to expend over 17 bucks?
I could see if it was 170 or 1700, but for $17, I would just cut my losses and move on. I don't know that I would write endless emails and start a web campaign to bring the guy down.


yo

fucking people over is uncool for either $1 or $100000000000000

revenge FTW

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
i mean, either way, he is technically a FELON.


actually for under $200 it constitutes a misdemeanor i think.

though we're talking about intertate commerce...hmm....

atsonicpark 11.11.2007 07:35 PM

oh, well i thought since it was mail fraud, it didn't matter either way. and he's fucked over more than just me so it probably amounts to $200+..

Savage Clone 11.11.2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yo

fucking people over is uncool for either $1 or $100000000000000

revenge FTW


I wasn't defending him, so whatever, Mr. Smug.

!@#$%! 11.11.2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I wasn't defending him, so whatever, Mr. Smug.


Revenge has nothing to do with the size of the offense, Mr. Weasel

ps- watch the break cables of your bike. you're next....



 


ps- are you really the antichrist you claim to be, or is it just a fashion thing?

Inhuman 11.11.2007 08:43 PM

Sent him an email saying he should live up to his end of the deal, especially when someone is doing you a favor. One time a street begger downtown was selling ''weed'' and I felt bad for him, and bought from him. It turned out to be kitchen herbs, and he was twice my size. Trust is something that needs to be acquired with time. I have the same problem with trusting people too easily

atsonicpark 11.11.2007 08:50 PM

thank you.

Savage Clone 11.11.2007 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
Revenge has nothing to do with the size of the offense, Mr. Weasel


I was just talking more in a "pick your battles" sense.


Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ps- are you really the antichrist you claim to be, or is it just a fashion thing?


Yawn.

!@#$%! 11.11.2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Yawn.


oh, snap!

gohleekwang 11.12.2007 01:20 AM

:mad: it is a pain to think of which distro did not paid me all this years. :(

ZEROpumpkins 11.12.2007 03:08 AM

Ahh so you got my message?

atsonicpark 11.12.2007 10:42 AM

yes

Everyneurotic 11.12.2007 10:58 AM

ohh yes, i need to email the dude from apop records, he owes me a pair of things.

val-holla-ing 11.12.2007 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i thought it was about the guy from teenage whore tapes against troubleman unlimited.


yeah man. i thought it was mike from tmu. the shit i've seen him say on the southernlord board makes me never want to never buy anything off his label again. since growing left, looks like i won't be buying anything anyways.

val-holla-ing 11.12.2007 12:29 PM

i feel your pain. i got ripped off for some shit on ebay a few years back. this fucker'll get what's coming to him, and hopefully you'll get your $17 back.

Everyneurotic 11.12.2007 07:44 PM

what a waste, that mike from tmu.

he has a very good label with some amazing releases. too bad he is a fucking crook, i mean, come on, you can steal how much? is it worth it? it's damn underground music, not the latest britney spears sex tape.

val-holla-ing 11.12.2007 08:04 PM

not to mention those "super limited to only 12 copies of touch this touch that on wax made from italian baby fur" releases weren't as limited as he would say, if you catch what i'm saying.

Everyneurotic 11.12.2007 08:41 PM

yeah, i thought i was incredibly lucky to find an isis live double vinyl he put out, i thought i was lucky...

k-krack 11.12.2007 10:21 PM

I'm pretty sure this band came to Sudbury with a bunch of bands (?) that sound exactly the same. At any rate, I have this free cd I got from somewhere with him and those other bands on it... they all fucking suck... so this only furthers his suckage.

atsonicpark 11.13.2007 07:02 AM

yeah, it's possible.

!@#$%! 11.13.2007 07:18 AM

i sent a nastygram to the fucker this morning. even if he didn't open the email, the title should have spoken for itself ;)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.13.2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark



August rolls around, I begin emailing him again, every few days, every few days, until it's daily, asking him what the fuck's going on. Nothing nothing nothing. So, at the beginning of September, I finally say, "I'm reporting you to paypal." So, once again, about an hour or two later, "Fine, you'll get your money back." says he.
...unless he just gives me my $17 back. Then, he'll never have to hear from me or about me again. .That's it! The measly sum of $17 -- he plays live shows and apparently works two jobs, but he can't afford to give me MY money back? Right........ I don't care how I get it back, I just want it back


While I am aware of the legal implications of this, after all Marcus Mosiah Garvey was wrongly imprisoned for mail fraud, I must admitt to you this is all a bit ridiculous. Sorry, but get over it! we are talking about 17 bucks! who gives a shit! there, I said my peace. my two cents, it shouldn't be about the 17 bucks to begin with, maybe the principle, but even then..... so as long as you are griping about 17 dollars, you will never see any kind of satisfaction.

floatingslowly 11.13.2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
we are talking about 17 bucks! who gives a shit! there, I said my peace. my two cents


he's still short $16.98.


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