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demonrail666 11.21.2007 11:12 AM

God my taste in music is all over the place at the moment
 
Being well and truly bored with my usual goto bands/albums, this last couple of months has seen me dabbling in loads of stuff I'd previously pushed to one side.

I dipped my toe in classical music for about two weeks last month and found that, deep down, I just don't like it that much.

Erm, what else. Oh yeah, I also discovered that I liked Led Zeppelin last month, then I realised that, actually, I don't at all. The same with P-Funk.

Oh and for some reason, I always feel slightly silly whenever I listen to jazz.

Fuck me, I really wish I knew what I liked

sonicl 11.21.2007 11:23 AM

I'm getting a bit jaded with music at the moment. Particularly the live music experience. But I suppose that serves me right for going to see post-rock bands play, they're hardly famous for their stage shows, are they? If they're going to be so static, they could at least bring along a Liquid Len lightshow.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 11:23 AM

just wait awhile.

there is music that you have to wait until your personal makeup changes to better allow for enjoyment of said music. Quality Jazz and quality classical music are some of these.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I'm getting a bit jaded with music at the moment. Particularly the live music experience. But I suppose that serves me right for going to see post-rock bands play, they're hardly famous for their stage shows, are they? If they're going to be so static, they could at least bring along a Liquid Len lightshow.


COUCH ROCK!

that is what I call those band's live shows. If a club had a fat bong and a couch for me to sit at while explosions in the sky or bardo pond or godspeed played, all would be right with the world. they just do NOT ROCK, you know?

they are great, but most definitely do not ROCK

sonicl 11.21.2007 11:27 AM

Yeah, agreed. I want to hear those bands play, but I want a nice comfortable seat to sit in while I'm doing it. They should be playing in classic concert halls or churches (as long as they have comfortable seating), not rock venues.

sarramkrop 11.21.2007 11:28 AM

When you say that you have been dabbling in loads of stuff, what sort exactly?

The reason I ask is because there is literally tons of music out there that is not immediately classifiable as pop/rock/classical/dance, therefore it's always worth keeping a spare set of ears for anything, time-permitting.

I personally never concentrated too much on one type of music, so I am far from an expert in any particular style, but it works wonders in that it keeps me stimulated and in an ever thirsty mood for new music, any kind.

nicfit 11.21.2007 11:31 AM

I've seen mono play in a cinema and eits too in an "abandoned" cinema, and I must admit that those were comfy and enjoyable settings. But even seeing them standing in front of the stage was great. I like to see how they play stuff, it's not "a big show" but it's really interesting from time to time. end of message.

demonrail666 11.21.2007 12:09 PM

Hmm, Nefeli. I suppose I'm just bored with my CD collection (which is reasonably varied). It's just that anything new that I listen to, while interesting for a while, exhausts itself quite quickly. The same goes with trawling back through old faves. I'm just left with a sense of 'meh'.

I dunno, maybe my taste is changing. What it's changing into though is anyone's guess. If someone asked me what music I liked, I honestly wouldn't have a clue.

Glice 11.21.2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
just wait awhile.

there is music that you have to wait until your personal makeup changes to better allow for enjoyment of said music. Quality Jazz and quality classical music are some of these.


And are you going to get happy hardcore any time soon?

To Mr Rail - It's important to be able to say you don't like some things. People aren't people if they don't like and dislike things. They're just demographics. I'm pretty sure you're older than me, so I don't want to patronise you, but I had a similar thing a few years ago, and I realised that I just can't be bothered with guitars these days. I still like them, but I get genuinely excited when I do, rather than sticking a guitar album into my list of albums that have guitars in them. But yeah. Trust the instincts man. And listen to Cage's Empty Words, it's amazing.

Everyneurotic 11.21.2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
...bardo pond...just do NOT ROCK, you know?...


hahahahahahaahahahaha

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
And are you going to get happy hardcore any time soon?



and what pray tell, is "happy hardcore?" some bands and links to their inevitable myspace pages would be appreciated and mad-repped.

Glice 11.21.2007 02:35 PM

Bands? The radio stations on this site should give you an idea. There are no bands. There's only about 5 actual DJs, and last count there's only two people bothering to make new HH.

This is not HH but some people enjoy it.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 02:37 PM

hmm.. i dunno if my taste in music is all over the place, i just buy/download whatever looks interesting at the time. the last few cd's i downloaded were a fall bootleg, x-legged sally (insane jazz), green milk from planet orange "birth of the neo trip", harry partch "king oedipus", some yuzo koshiro soundtracks (actraiser, shinboi 3), paranoia agent soundtrack, seiichi yamamoto "baptism" (which is just him on unaccompanied guitar), rage against the machine "evil empire" (my friend let me borrow one of their live concert vhs's, and some of the guitar stuff was amazing!), dodheimsgard "666 intentional", mouse on mars "idology", a william s burroughs class on creative writing, some disturbing peter sotos spoken word discs, and somehting called "the yamato drummers of japan" which is just some really weird tribal drumming record i haven't really researched yet.

I dunno, it's all sound, and a lot of sound is interesting, so .. whatever.

As for what happy hardcore is, Rob Instigator, it's just really bouncy, happy-sounding techno music with lots of fun melodies and overdriven bass drums.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 11.21.2007 02:38 PM

I've discovered if a song is an excelent example of it's genre then I like it, thus I like all well crafted music.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Bands? The radio stations on this site should give you an idea. There are no bands. There's only about 5 actual DJs, and last count there's only two people bothering to make new HH.

This is not HH but some people enjoy it.


so it's techno dance music?

CANCEL MY BURGEONING INTEREST!

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 02:43 PM

yeah, a lot of people (surprisingly many on this board) get too caught up in genres and shit. if it's a good song, who gives a fuck. i've seen posts on this board like "i hate all noise" or "fuck math rock" and shit like that; a good song transcends genres. obvious but true.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 02:43 PM

I would have thought happy hardcore woudl be like a cross between ALL, a less-upset screeching weasel, and green day on nitrous.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 02:45 PM

yeah, and happy hardcore is pretty bad. I once dated a riot grrl chick (who thought the lyrics to that bikini kill song where they went "eat meat/start a war/beat your fucking wife/it's the same thing" or whatever were just GENIUS) who had some album called "Happy Hardcore Volume 7". Yeah. Shit.

For good techno, investigate the wipeout game soundtracks. No kidding. Or a lot of the more popular artists in "jungle", "IDM", and "glitch"... specifically ones that remember to have good melodies and not just farty clicks and cuts (with Autechre being an exception; they are exempt from any criticisms).

Also, I fucking LOVE screeching weasel, i actually own all their records. One of the best bands ever.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 02:48 PM

i'm gonna beat my wife
i'm gonna beat my wife now
gonna smack her with a lead pipe
gonna smack her with a 2 x 4
run her over with a brink's truck
chase her down with a lawnmower
gonna beat my wife look out!
wife beatin' mistreatin'
wife slappin' it happen
gonna beat my wife
gonna beat your wife
gonna beat his wife
gonna beat her wife
gonna beat my wife
gonna slap my wife
gonna kick my wife
good god ya'll!
gonna beat my wife
gonna beat my wife
at the shelter
helter skelter
wife kickin'
finger lickin'
wife killin'
it's thrillin'
oh baby please don't beat me,
baby i promise i'll never sleep with
the moon in my face no more!
i'm gonna beat my wife

sarramkrop 11.21.2007 02:50 PM

I have been getting really detached from outside opinions when it comes to what I listen to. I have possibly the worst and the best taste in music ever, but it doesn't matter, I make sure that I don't have to explain what i like to others and they don't have to explain theirs to me.

In fact, I have cut-out music talk from my life as much as I can. A generic chat is ok, but I have no intention to get deep into it for hours on end, it ruins the experience of what music should primarily be: enjoyment.

No matter the subject matter that it touches or the style that it is played in, it should be something that gives you enjoyment, not just grief. I have also been thinking a lot about how aesthetics can and do damage (to an extent) to music listening/ making. Aesthetics are a welcome embellishment on the experience of making/listening to music, but when they become the prime force behind those two, it just ruins the experience, at least for me.

A lot of indie rock thrives on aesthetics more than hard-working musicianship, therefore its lifespan is often as short as that of any other type of music that is put out primarily for mass consumption.

Once you understand that, you can really free yourself from many aesthetical constraints that uptight chord-playing can push the listener towards.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 02:57 PM

hey there sarramkrop. You and I should write a book about music and life iwth music and everything that comes with it. I think we come to it from different angles but end up in a very similar place. I rarely talk music with anyone, mainly because I got tired of the bands everyone wants to talk abotu like 10 years ago.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 02:59 PM

I got tired of those bands too, which makes it even stranger we're on a board dominated by threads about dinosaur fucking jr and radiohead...

sarramkrop 11.21.2007 03:06 PM

Well the constant hyper-analizing of a band has the worst effect on the way you end up perceiving/listening to them, doesn't it?

The music still remains good/bad with all its potential or lack thereof, but the person who so wants to keep relating to it will find it more and more difficult to do so, eventually. That is when it's time to cut down on the gibberish, stop playing the band's records and go back to it with a fresher approach at a later stage.

Glice 11.21.2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
so it's techno dance music?

CANCEL MY BURGEONING INTEREST!


And this is why you'll always be a prick.

Glice 11.21.2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

For good techno, investigate the wipeout game soundtracks. No kidding. Or a lot of the more popular artists in "jungle", "IDM", and "glitch"... specifically ones that remember to have good melodies and not just farty clicks and cuts (with Autechre being an exception; they are exempt from any criticisms).



And this is why you'll always be a prick.

People should pay for my services, they really should.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 03:19 PM

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm merely reccomending electronic music a sonic youth fan might enjoy... I might be wrong.

sarramkrop 11.21.2007 03:22 PM

Techno = One thing.

Glitch = Another thing that in any case went on to contaminate other manifestations of electronic music.

Jungle = One thing.

IDM = A shitty guilt-ridden American term for electronic music.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 03:30 PM

Yeah, that's why I put quotes around those words... I don't necassarily want to call things "IDM" (and the term "glitch" is rather stupid as well), but some artists are just that... whatever.

I was simply saying, I don't know what Rob's tastes are, but his quick negative reaction to electronic music (happy hardcore or otherwise) makes me think he may not have investigated it too deeply, and there's a lot of gems to find in there...

sarramkrop 11.21.2007 03:30 PM

Like ignorance can be applied to many different people and things.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
And this is why you'll always be a prick.


hahahah! I am the nicest guy on here!

such vitriol just because I do not likes disposable dance music.

I likes to ROCK people!

Savage Clone 11.21.2007 03:31 PM

I have seen Bardo Pond super rock out on many occasions.
There is no "post" in that rock.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 03:32 PM

by "techno" I mean any music that is created for dancing out of elctronic sounds and samples. it bores me to death. so what? we all like what we like.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 03:32 PM

Yeah, Rob, you and I are both pretty nice guys! We're just too honest for this board sometimes.

But yeah, by not listening to electronic music, you're missing out on lots of great melodies. But to each their own .

sarramkrop 11.21.2007 03:39 PM

Oh, so hardcore is the same as psych rock or punk? That you are a bunch of nice guys is undeniable, but to not admit that you are a little unaware of the fact that not all electronic music made with samples, loops etc etc sounds the same and is the same, doesn't seem like a far-fetched concept.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 03:43 PM

I don't know if you're referring to me or not, because I most definitely know the difference between all the different electronic subgenres... In my post listening jungle/IDM/glitch, etc, I wasn't saying that they were all the same genre, I was saying to investigate those subgenres...

If you're not referring to me, sorry.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Oh, so hardcore is the same as psych rock or punk? That you are a bunch of nice guys is undeniable, but to not admit that you are a little unaware of the fact that not all electronic music made with samples, loops etc etc doesn't sound the same and is not the same, doesn't seem like a far-fetched concept.


it is not about sounding the same. it BORES ME the same.

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 03:47 PM

Rob, I really doubt you could be bored by Venetian Snares or Flashbulb... you should check them out if you're ever curious.. good stuff.

Rob Instigator 11.21.2007 03:57 PM

I will definitely check out ALL yr suggestions, atsonicpark. I always check out everyone's suggestions on here. except for folk music. ha ha!

atsonicpark 11.21.2007 04:01 PM

Cool, me too... check out Cerberus Shoal - Mr. Boy Dog, pal . You'll love it.

demonrail666 11.21.2007 04:06 PM

It's not about the merits of one genre over another, it's the attitude someone brings when they listen to a piece of music. I could be looking at a Van Gogh, but if I'm not 'open' to it, then its just paint. Right now, when I should be lhearing music, all I can really hear is sound.


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