Krautrock
 

where should i start??

i heard some Can and liked it, and im interested after hearing Jeff Tweedy talk about it, anyone into this stuff want to suggest a good record to get?

The search function is a good start.

Neu ! - Neu !
Neu ! - Neu ! 2
Can - Ege Bamyatsi
Can - Tago Mago

just for a starter

Jeff Tweedy? Hm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krautrock is a good read.

My favorite record is amon duul ii - god's penis...

Faust
Neu!
Can

Yeah, Faust Tapes is where it's at!!!

Can-Ege Bamyasi

A good place to start is maybe Amon Duul II's Yeti album. Can, Faust and Neu are great too, but you might get a false impression of what most krautrock actually sounds like. Yeti, on the other hand, is just pure Kraut.





Another good way of getting some background to the music, as well as some pointers regarding which albums to go for, is Julian Cope's book Krautrocksampler.

anyone know how hard these records are to come by, might go record hunting this saturday

A lot of these albums have been reissued on CD and/or 180g vinyl.
If you want originals, you will pay through the nose. I once sold an original copy of Can's "Monster Movie" for over $1800.00.

Beats me why would anyone want the originals when you can get juicier 180g reissues cheaper.
For some reason I never see Can or Neu! albums in the mid price range here, cds or vinyls. I'd love to get some of those.
There was some cool krautrock blog with loads of uploaded rare albums, but it's gone now I believe.

You can also search in that "post rare or out of print records thread".
I remember uploading Can's very first session and posting it in that thread, some awesome stuff.

I need to remember to upload an amazing latter-day Can Peel Session that I have downloaded from a website a while ago. The drumming is most impressive.

Please do. I've been searching from some Can Peel Session stuff. My friend had a tape in his car and it was ace but all he knew about it was that it was a Can Peel Session. I managed to download that Can Peel Session cd that was early 70's stuff but I don't think it is the same stuff. The stuff I remember hearing had a song that went "this is the DNA song" if my memory serves me correctly. Also I do recall some ace drumming so maybe it was the same stuff.

Also, I wouldn't say Faust Tapes was the best place to start with Faust. It's the easiest to get hold of an orig. vinyl of though. You should be able to find one for about a tenner if you hunt around whereas originals of the first 2 records go for way more. They have been reissued, the first one recently on Lilith (who did the No New York reissue), but the second one is a bit harded to find the reissue of. Both easily available on cd. Anyway, Faust-wise I would start with So Far or Faust IV.

so not to repeat can/faust/neu!, i'll like to recommend early amon düül I (as a.d.II has already being discussed) for great big ensemble, motorik communal jamming.

where's the love for guru guru? ufo, bitch!

like phlegm already noted, there are many blogs dedicated to post kraut albums, search for them.

Klaus Schulze

why not, kraftwerk

Early Popol Vuh is pretty great, especially In Dem Garten Pharaos.

i decided to stop using the term krautrock, because as far as music goes, what does a group like cluster have in common with ash ra tempel? and how can you say amon duul II are more kraut than neu or faust, how does a statement like that make any sense?

I've taken to saying "early 70s German music" a lot of the time.
I almost use the term "krautrock" more often to describe modern groups with that influence (from wherever) than I do in reference to the original German bands.

I said that because I hear far more KR bands from that period that sound like them than I do bands like Can, Neu or Faust. Amon Duul may not have been the most groundbreaking KR band, but they're arguably the most representative. And I stress the word arguably there.

If you only stick to Yeti and Phallus Dei, perhaps.

What I love about Krautrock is that no two bands sound exactly alike, unless they share members. While this rules, it's hard to recommend records that definte the Krautrock sound.

I think starting with Faust IV is probably wise. Can's first few albums and the Can DVD are also probably good places to start. Everyone always brings up Neu!, but I think that all of Neu's releases pale in comparison to Harmonia's first release Musick Von Harmonia; everything about Neu! is present in Harmonia excpet it's all done with synth's and it's just magic. Amon Duul II fucking rules hard; Yeti and Tanz Der Lemming are my favorite. I've always thought of Xhol Caravan as being waaay underrated; I would look into their album Electrip.

It's a fun genre, get into it.

for those of you who have this TV channel:

there's a documentary on krautrock/70's german rock that just started on Arte... it's called "Roboter essen kein Sauerkraut"...

and after that there's a movie called Deadlock with a soundtrack from Can... I have never seen that one but wanted to...

what the fuck???

Ive got 3 original can records (vinyl) in my collection, the others are cd.
is there a place where I can look what they would be worth it?

right now????? (I am too lazy to switch it on)

yes, right now.
i guess i should have started a new thread, instead of bumping this old one...

damn my mega drive fucked up all saved channels....shit

^^^^^
germany got only one good phase of music which was the KR phase. the saddest part is that almost nobody in germany got into it

Hmm... the documentary wasn't great.

Predictably, I liked the sections about the bands I like, and was very bored during the sections about bands I don't like... The problem is that they were basically doing one band after the other (5 minutes for Amon Düül, 5 minutes for Can, 5 minutes for Scorpions, etc.) so I always seemed to be waiting for someone I like to show up - there was a very long section in the second half with only bands I was not interested in - or i was frustrated when someone I like disappears from the screen after a few images/words/sounds.

And the bastards did not mention Faust at all!

Good thing I had something to read at the same time.

Here you are. Dug it out because I played it last Saturday and it is that good. Hope the link's still alive.

There's a lot more here than the Peel Sessions, but you should buy all the available stuff, you cheap bastids!

http://glowingraw.blogspot.com/2007/...ap-laughs.html

anybody know if can's soundtracks got reissued on vinyl?

Krautrock. Aren't they a German band?

I picked up an EXACT reissue (most likely not legit), down to the German Liberty labels, recently for $16.00. By "recently" I mean a year and a half ago.
I can hook you up with a German or UK original though. The UK one has different cover.

lolzn

Haha, when I first looked at this thread I thought it said Kid Rock; I'm glad it didn't...

I love me some krautrock, but anything I think I would suggest has already been covered - Can, Amon Duul II, Faust, etc...

Ash Ra Tempel is good, and Cluster... I didn't read them all so I don't know if these were mentioned yet...





(YAY for elipsis!...)



EDIT:

ha, you mentioned them both in one post :)

check out Panko Musik's "weiles so schon perlt"

I will say, somebody who has an extensive krautrock lp collection is more imressive to me than maybe any other genre of music.