The music references in Juno
 

At first I thought these things were fun, kind of cool, you know, like hey, music I can identify. And then later, hours after seeing the movie, things started to seem weird.

1. Is there really any way a girl like Juno would be so into the Stooges? She's never heard of Sonic Youth, but she's into the Stooges. Right. And Patti Smith? Okay, I could see if she were a real rock nerd, but she's not. She's a precocious but rather ordinary girl who doesn't seem overly obsessed with collecting music or with music history. I don't know. It strikes me as wrong.

2. The creepy Dad (Jennifer Garner's husband)--He's into Sonic Youth and the Melvins but disses 77 punk? And gives Juno's interest in the Stooges virtually no credence? What the fuck is up with that?

I'm sure there's more weirdness I'll think of later, but this is what kind of creeps me out now.

What do you think?

word up i thought the same thing. also considering their taste in music, the soudntrack to the movie was compeltely irrelevant and i hated it.

Yeah, I was very disappointed in that lame twee soundtrack. Not just because it was twee but because it was, like you say, incongruous with the music "in" the movie. The soundtrack should have been Iggy and Patti Smith and the Runaways, Melvins, Sonic Youth, and the like.

Why would anyone be so cruel as to put so much Kimya Dawson/Moldy Peaches music into a film meant for public consumption?
Besides the fact that this is basically a date movie for people who don't like Hugh Grant/Meg Ryan vehicles, that was the nail in the coffin in my decision to sit this one out.

well, I wish I'd known. I was a sucker for the "nominated for three Golden Globe awards" ad on TV. I'm very gullible.

These are all minute things that didn't seem that big to me.

yeah, unfortunately it's bugging me. I'm having moviegoer's remorse over this one.

did they refer to LPs as "Vinyls" too?

Does it even matter?

I haven't seen this movie, but there was definitely a time when I was into the Stooges and Patti Smith without knowing anything about Sonic Youth. So I don't find that hard to believe at all. I was also into the Velvets, but still had no clue when it came to Sonic Youth. It really makes sense, considering how Sonic Youth are usually the ones to name-drop those other bands, as opposed to the other way around.

this movie seems worse and worse everytime someone talks about it.

sounds like gilmore girls if they wanted to suck even more than the last seasons.

yeah but sonic youth was on the gilmore girls.

i liked gilmore girls from seasons 1 to 4, afterwards, it gives me the creeps.

yeah, they were, and so were yo la tengo and sparks.

Yeah, why the fuck do people keep talking about this movie? I'm really wondering. I'm not trying to be sarcastic: Tell me what's good about it. It looks fucking terrible. I'll eventually see it, of course, but it seems tailor-made for indie hipster idiots. Who cares?

Gilmore Girls was at least smart about its pop cultural references. That was one of the fun things about it.

Ah go spend 7 bucks and find out. You might like it. I actually don't think it's that bad. A little sappy, a little contrived, and the music references seem a little, like I say, forced or unrealistic. But all in all, it's a good story. It reminded me a little of Wes Anderson, actually, like a less anti-septic Wes Anderson, a bit more feeling and less pretension.

In spite of my misgivings, I'd now give it a 7.5 out of 10 stars.

I have yet to see Control. I am behind on the whole indie hipster movie thing.

Get with the program.

Gmku, stop making excuses for movies that sound like they would be terrible viewing even before you watch them.

Eat my shorts.

I saw the film and was neither impressed or dissapointed by it. It was fair, ok, good a 7 out of 10. The musical references don't make sense but honestly I was into the stooges,velvets,deadboys,television,heartbrakers,n ew york dolls etc... a long time before I really ''found'' sonic youth. And one thing that bugs me is when people say something is ''contrived'' and apply it towards the arts/entertainment industry. Most things in that area are deliberately created to entertain and make money or else there would not be that industry. I understand that often, especially in the ''mainstream'' books,movies,music, etc.. can have an overt sense of artificiality, but then again they are fictional and based solely on events that did not happen.

I agree that Juno was a bit contrived, but so is almost anything else unless it is pure genius, a perfect album or movie or novel. And really who finds these at a regular enough rate to write home to?

Yeah, I was a bit lazy to use "contrived." Just in a good "art" experience I shouldn't notice the contrivance. Contrived is always there, but it should ideally slip past the viewer if everything is working. The music references just stuck out a bit oddly for me.

I hate this movie more and more every day. I thought it was just a disappointment at first, but the fact that no one shuts up about it, and everyone thinks it is the greatest thing ever bugs the shit out of me and makes me resent the movie.

"How many times have you seen Juno?"
"3 times"
"Lol, I saw it 4 times! I'm such a movie buff."

Everyone sees a halfway decent movie, and they all think they have some great insight into the world of film and won't shut up about it.

Yeah yeah, elitist elitist. It still bugs me because Juno really was not that good. Enjoyable, but nothing more.

Diablo's diabolical plan haha...yeah, I'll see it one day too. Because despite all the hype, it really does seem (thanks for the lowdown, gmku) like it's only so much pap anyway.

he has a point


That's all that I found it really was. It was kind of like "you can stll be indie if you're pregnant". And Sunny Deight isn't really hip I don't think. And they did a horrible take on modern teen lingo.