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batreleaser 01.31.2008 12:11 AM

Hip Hop: Your Favorites
 
i love weird loud music, whether it be punk in its various forms, ditto metal, noise, avant garde, industrial, idm, free jazz, avant jazz, shoegaze, mathrock, blah blah etc... and these are the types of music i usually focus on when creating music of my own, whether it be in a band, or recording on my trumpet/guitar on my own. But, I realize that when you are playing music in a certain vain, then it becomes easy to tire of this music. For instance, I was playing in this band last year and we were doing like a royal trux slayer type band, we were playing together and listening to tunes every day. i then found that on my own id be listening to more hip hop, dance, and pop music more than the stuff id be playing with the band, like the beatles, beach boys, curtis mayfield, lotta daft punk, and tons and tons and tons of hip hop. I however absolutley really love a lot of hip hop. Its a shame how bad mainstream has gotten, with the exception of lil wayne and kanye west, because in the 90's to early 00's it seemed as if hip hop was the BEST popular music. Anyways, what are your favorite hip hop artists and your favorite alblums by these artists...

Me:
Wu Tang Clan-Enter the 36 Chambers (the most important hip hop alblum ever, i said it)
Public Enemy-It Takes a Nation of Million to Hold Us Back (2nd most important), Fear of a Black Nation
Biggie-Ready to Die
Nas-Illmatic
Company Flow-Funcrusher Plus
Ghostface-Supreme Clientele, Fishscale
GZA-Liquid Swords
Raekwon-Only Built for Cuban Linx
ODB-Return to the 36 Chambers, Nigga Please
Madvillian-Madvilliany
Viktor Vaughn-Vaudeville Villain
Bone Thugs n Harmony-Crossroads
Camron-Purple Haze (he sucks bad now though)
Cannibal Ox-The Cold Vein (what happened to these dudes, this alblum was brilliant)
Clipse-Hell Hath No Fury
De La Soul-3 feet high and Rising
Dead Prez-Its Bigger than Hip Hop
Dr. Dre-The Chronic
NWA-straight outta compton
dr octagon-dr octagonecologyst
el p-fantasitc damage
goodie mob-soul food
eric b and rakim-paid in full
lil wayne-carter 2, dedication
mobb deep-the infamous
the roots-illadelph halflife
a tribe called quest-midnight marauders, low end theory
gravediggaz-6 feet deep, the pick the sickel and the shovel
ultramagnetic mc's-critical beatdown
boogie down productions-criminal minded

batreleaser 01.31.2008 12:13 AM

right now im listening to j dilla-the shining. godamn his beats were..... jesus, i dont even know, just so good. emotion-evoking.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 01.31.2008 01:26 AM

Dr Octagon- Dr. Octagonecolagyst is my favorite hip hop album.

uhler 01.31.2008 01:27 AM

ninja rap- vanilla ice

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 01.31.2008 01:56 AM

hey it's the green machine
gonna rock the town without being see
have you ever seen a turtle get down?

Cantankerous 01.31.2008 01:59 AM

by no means my favourite genre, i'm actually moving much more away from it as of late

nwa
wu tang
public enemy

and all of their minions..

_slavo_ 01.31.2008 04:32 AM

Biggie-Ready to Die


The ultimate album.

A Thousand Threads 01.31.2008 04:40 AM

Highly recommended
 

 


EXISTEREO

that fucker is really good

RdTv 01.31.2008 07:44 AM

Arrghh....Artists and albums...hmmm..well here are some:
BDP - Criminal MInded
Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
Digable PLanets - Reachin'
Black Sheep - Sheep In Wolves Clothing
Dre Dog - I Hate You With A Passion
RBL Posse - Lesson To Be Learned
Wu Tang - Enter 36 Chambers
Genius - Liquid Swords
Ghostface Killah - Ironman
Ultramagnetic Mc's - Funk Yo Head Up
Biggie - Ready To Die
Ultramagnetic Mc's - Critical Beatdown
Outkast - ATLiens
Mobb Deep - Infamous
Big L - Lifestyles Of The Poor & Dangerous
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
ODB - Return TO 36 Chambers
MF Doom - Is Viktor Vaughn Vaudeville Villain

Toilet & Bowels 01.31.2008 10:03 AM

mf doom
gang starr
a tribe called quest
wu tang
public enemy
geto boys
MOP
diamond d
smiff n wessun
show & ag
blackalicious & quannum
de la soul
jungle brothers
grandmaster flash and the furious five
cold crush brothers
funky 4 +1
roxanne shante
scaramanga
kool keith
ultramagnetics
leaders of the new school
DiTC
anti-pop consortium
mike ladd
company flow
mr lif
alkaholiks
lootpack
mobb deep
nas
polyrhythm addicts
dj spinna
three 6 mafia
ghostface
stetsasonic
cannibal ox
godfather don
the odd squad
kool g rap
mf grimm
rodan
mr fantastik
biggie smalls
EPMD
redman
busy bee
quasimoto
audio two
snoop
ll cool j (80s era only)
invizibl skratch piklz
group home
percee p
organized konfusion

Everyneurotic 01.31.2008 10:09 AM

three 6 mafia
dälek
cage
el-p
a tribe called quest
nwa
public enemy
early ice cube solo
dr. dre
lil' wayne
some juvenile
snoop doggy dogg (i reiterate, snoop DOGGY dogg)
cypress hill (before rap metal)
rich boy - throw some ds
the wu tang
ghostface
rae
odb
gza
mobb deep
dmx
the geto boys
outkast (up until stankonia)
dj shadow
kool keith
mf doom
mf grimm
pharoahe monch

all i can think of right now.

...i don't see what's so special about clipse, sounds like a very average neptunes-produced band.

Rob Instigator 01.31.2008 10:09 AM

PUBLIC ENEMY - Nation of Millions, Fear of a Black planet, Apocalypse 91
A TRIBE CALLED QUEST - people's instinctive tarvels, midnight marauders, low end theory
DE LA SOUL - 3 Feet High, De La Is Dead, Buhloon Mindstate, Stakes is High
DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - Sex packets
ERIC B. & RAKIM - Paid In Full, Follow The Leader
BEASTIE BOYS - Paul's Boutique, Check Yr Head, Ill Communication, Hello Nasty
DIGABLE PLANETS - Reachin'
MC SERCH - Return of the Product
GANG STARR - Hard To Earn, daily ooperation, No More Mr Nice Guy
GURU - JAZZAMATAZZ
RUN DMC - Run Dmc, Raising Hell, King of Rock
GETO BOYS - Geto Boys, We Can't Be Stopped. Uncut Dope

public enemy is the pinnacle. the Bob Marley and the Wailers of Hip Hop.

Biggie Smalls was just a fat fuck turd looking to make money to feed his 10,000 a day calorie habit.
The Geto Boys make NWA and Dre and EZ look like the poser college boys they were.

NWRA 01.31.2008 11:25 AM

Jay Z's The Blueprint is very good and reminds me of Gang Star's Hard To Earn with its deep, jazzy and soulful beats and heartfelt lyrics (well, there's still a bit of bragging and dissing but its confined to a couple of tracks and his lines are quite smart anyway). It's consistent: every song is strong, and its certainly not what I expected

Otherwise I just like the obvious ones though Alias's The Other Side Of The Looking Glass is worth a mention, its the best Anticon release that I've heard: the production is very full and 'musical' (violins, flutes, and electronic flourishes) which are underpinned by really crisp-sounding, hard beats which you would think would be incongrous but compliment it well.

Does anyone else think Fear Of A Black Planet, Apocalypse 91 and Muse Sick N Hour Mess Age (underrated!) are better than It Takes A Nation, which sounds tepid and weak (not the collage of sound that I like) and uses the same samples as loads of albums from that age (EMPD, etc)?

Rob Instigator 01.31.2008 11:45 AM

the Bomb Squad produced songs for a lot of albums of that time, which affects how we see PE's ioriginiality today

nation of millions is a fucking genius sampled album. everything in it is meant to agitate.
scrapes, squeals, sirens, screams, etc. No one has done it better since, partly because of the change in copyright laws after de la soul got sued
it is bullshit,.

I hate fucking hip hop samples where you can tell exactly what song it is from and that only samples one song so you are basically rappig over an instrumental version of a police song, or a tom tom club song. I fucking HATE that shit.

batreleaser 01.31.2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RdTv
Arrghh....Artists and albums...hmmm..well here are some:
BDP - Criminal MInded
Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
Digable PLanets - Reachin'
Black Sheep - Sheep In Wolves Clothing
Dre Dog - I Hate You With A Passion
RBL Posse - Lesson To Be Learned
Wu Tang - Enter 36 Chambers
Genius - Liquid Swords
Ghostface Killah - Ironman
Ultramagnetic Mc's - Funk Yo Head Up
Biggie - Ready To Die
Ultramagnetic Mc's - Critical Beatdown
Outkast - ATLiens
Mobb Deep - Infamous
Big L - Lifestyles Of The Poor & Dangerous
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
ODB - Return TO 36 Chambers
MF Doom - Is Viktor Vaughn Vaudeville Villain



good list, and i obviously i know mf doom=viktor vauhn

batreleaser 01.31.2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
PUBLIC ENEMY - Nation of Millions, Fear of a Black planet, Apocalypse 91
A TRIBE CALLED QUEST - people's instinctive tarvels, midnight marauders, low end theory
DE LA SOUL - 3 Feet High, De La Is Dead, Buhloon Mindstate, Stakes is High
DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - Sex packets
ERIC B. & RAKIM - Paid In Full, Follow The Leader
BEASTIE BOYS - Paul's Boutique, Check Yr Head, Ill Communication, Hello Nasty
DIGABLE PLANETS - Reachin'
MC SERCH - Return of the Product
GANG STARR - Hard To Earn, daily ooperation, No More Mr Nice Guy
GURU - JAZZAMATAZZ
RUN DMC - Run Dmc, Raising Hell, King of Rock
GETO BOYS - Geto Boys, We Can't Be Stopped. Uncut Dope

public enemy is the pinnacle. the Bob Marley and the Wailers of Hip Hop.

Biggie Smalls was just a fat fuck turd looking to make money to feed his 10,000 a day calorie habit.
The Geto Boys make NWA and Dre and EZ look like the poser college boys they were.



so because he was fat makes him a bad mc? his flow and lyrics are both unfuckwithable. prolly my favorite mc ever. made the most violent of lyrics sound soulful and nonchalant.

NWRA 01.31.2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

nation of millions is a fucking genius sampled album. everything in it is meant to agitate.
scrapes, squeals, sirens, screams, etc.


But when I listen to It Takes A Nation Of Millions, I don't hear scrapes, squeals, etc. It's got a reputation as being 'noize!' but all I hear is ordinary-sounding hiphop songs based around funk samples (apart from She Watch Channel Zero), just like EMPD, etc.

Fear Of A Black Planet is the one where the songs are composed with many, many samples from all kinds of sources in a big abrasive noizy assault

Rob Instigator 01.31.2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
so because he was fat makes him a bad mc? his flow and lyrics are both unfuckwithable. prolly my favorite mc ever. made the most violent of lyrics sound soulful and nonchalant.


I don't enjoy his rhymes, do not enjoy teh company he kept, do not enjoy his stupid themes, and cannot for the life f me stand the bullshit bullshit samples" his producers used. The Geto Boys would have killed that fuck with Mind of a Lunatic alone.
.

Rob Instigator 01.31.2008 12:08 PM

I also did not like that he used to sling crack rock. same reason I find Ice T a fucking joke, ex pimp, woman beater, asshole.

Rob Instigator 01.31.2008 12:10 PM

look at these dipshits
 


you reap what you sow

batreleaser 01.31.2008 12:16 PM

well im not gonna start and arguement over not liking biggie. i mean i loved his beats and i think puffy is actually way underrated as a pruducer (check the new jay z, hes tracks are the only ones good on there) despite him being on of the biggest deauche bags on the planet. but the rest of your list is pretty awesome so ill let it slide.

_slavo_ 01.31.2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
so because he was fat makes him a bad mc? his flow and lyrics are both unfuckwithable. prolly my favorite mc ever. made the most violent of lyrics sound soulful and nonchalant.


absolutely.

batreleaser 01.31.2008 01:03 PM

haha

Rob Instigator 01.31.2008 01:20 PM

I also forgot one of my faves

SLICK RICK - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick

NWRA 01.31.2008 01:52 PM

I also forgot one of my faves: Tupac's Strictly 4 My Niggaz.

It's from the time when loads of rappers were copying Public Enemy: Ice T (on Original Gangster, which is excellent) and Ice Cube were using Bomb Squad-like producers and writing aggressively pro-Black and nihilistic lyrics.

Strictly 4 My Niggaz is Tupac's contribution to this time, with the only light relief being Keep Your Head Up (everyone of his albums has a token 'from the heart' track - this one is actually good).

It's in an awkward position because Tupac's fans, who prefer his Death Row bullshit, won't like the abrasive, murky, sometimes-bordering-on-industrial production (one of the songs is sampled by NIN on their cover of Metal); while the hiphop fans who would appreciate it (Public Enemy fans) probably won't listen to it because they've dismissed everything Tupac's done on the basis of his Death Row bullshit.

It's an angry, uncompromising, noise-hop album, and well worth a download.

Inhuman 01.31.2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
PUBLIC ENEMY - Nation of Millions, Fear of a Black planet, Apocalypse 91
A TRIBE CALLED QUEST - people's instinctive tarvels, midnight marauders, low end theory
DE LA SOUL - 3 Feet High, De La Is Dead, Buhloon Mindstate, Stakes is High
DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - Sex packets
ERIC B. & RAKIM - Paid In Full, Follow The Leader
BEASTIE BOYS - Paul's Boutique, Check Yr Head, Ill Communication, Hello Nasty
DIGABLE PLANETS - Reachin'
MC SERCH - Return of the Product
GANG STARR - Hard To Earn, daily ooperation, No More Mr Nice Guy
GURU - JAZZAMATAZZ
RUN DMC - Run Dmc, Raising Hell, King of Rock
GETO BOYS - Geto Boys, We Can't Be Stopped. Uncut Dope


Excellent list, I must say. Geto boys are one of my most listened to artists right now. It's interesting to see how that in all of hip hop history, they seem to be the most gangsta and that was way back in the early 90's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
snoop doggy dogg (i reiterate, snoop DOGGY dogg)

Regarding snoop, I think he just made tonnes of mistakes with production after Doggystyle. Doggystyle is the only album of his that I consider excellent, but overall he's a great rapper dispite the weakness of his other albums. Actually, he released a free track to his upcoming album, http://allhiphop.com/stories/multime.../19220079.aspx
. Sounds like a Dre track too, and isn't that bad, but the hook is weak.

Lately I've been listening to:

DPG
Kurupt (Releasing a new album this year)
The Game (Look out for L.A.X)
Lil Wayne (Look out for Tha Carter 3)
Dre (Look out for Detox)
Geto Boys
Three 6 Mafia
Kool Keith / Ultramagnetic MC's
Inspectah Deck / ODB / Rae / Ghost / Rest of Wu + Affiliates
Rakim (+ Eric B)
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
DJ Screw
E40
Slick Rick
Big L
Big Pun
Biggie
NWA
The Coup
Public Enemy
Talib Kweli
Dr. Octagon
Noah23

Production
Dr. Dre
Just Blaze
J.R. Rotem
Pharrel
Cool & Dre
Scott Storch
Dat Nigga Daz
RZA
Kanye


jennthebenn 01.31.2008 03:26 PM

Big Pun was twice the size of Biggie Smalls and over the course of two albums
and a gang of cameos staked his spot as one of the most amazing lyricists
I've ever heard. Redman is still my favorite though. Best MC? No. But my favorite.

jennthebenn 01.31.2008 03:28 PM

Also, anyone who doesn't like DJ Premier beats, you're a lost one.

Tokolosh 01.31.2008 03:35 PM

Most of the ones previously mentioned.

I don't see Sage Francis, so I guess that he's not liked much.
Grand Buffet are a good laugh.

krastian 01.31.2008 03:38 PM

My friends tour with Grand Buffet quite a bit. I hung out with them when they first started playing in the late 90's....cool dudes.

Tokolosh 01.31.2008 03:43 PM

They played twice at a cozy bar up the road. I like the way they get up on stage with a cd walkman and burn down the house. Who are your friends, if you don't mind me asking?

krastian 01.31.2008 03:50 PM

HEIGHT and PT Burnem have played with them.....they are like "underground rap" or whatever.

Tokolosh 01.31.2008 03:56 PM

Never heard of them. I'll check it out.

Braintax is another one that springs to mind.

krastian 01.31.2008 03:58 PM

They're from Baltimore. Burnem is a friend of mine from college who is in Philly most of the time now.

Tokolosh 01.31.2008 04:09 PM

Yeah, they mentioned Baltimore. I've got Five Years of Fireworks. Good album and funny DVD.
Ask them about De Bliksem if you ever see them.

Edit: Lord Grunge got wasted on whiskey while Mr. Pennsylvania sort of meditated back stage. :D

krastian 01.31.2008 04:11 PM

Oh oh oh-oh-oh oh my God you're weird....ha ha.

LittlePuppetBoy 01.31.2008 04:16 PM

Dalek
NWA (Straight Outta Compton is one of the best albums ever)
Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle
Sugarhill Gang
Gangmaster Flash

am very interested in checking out Tribe Called Quest

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.31.2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Dr Octagon- Dr. Octagonecolagyst is my favorite hip hop album.


check it out, the original tin can man, thats right its the boy with the aluminum knees, check me out, can I walk... get me my wheelchair..


 

PAULYBEE2656 01.31.2008 04:50 PM

 

Tokolosh 01.31.2008 05:04 PM

What does Tutankhamun have to do with this thread?


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