Girls Vs. Satan
 

Who'd win? And yes I think there is a difference...

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one of my best friends is a girl, dont EVER cross her or you WILL know about it. in this respect i've picked girls

i am just going by the titty reference as satan doesnt really have tits as far as i know.

you should have put thurston down as he is the royal tough titty.

So far, girls rule... I don't think thurston would wanna get into a 3 way fight with girls and satan...

i dont know. if he brought his guitar he could release the live version on a super hard to find cdr.

the results so far give out a clear message..
girls are prefered over satan..

voted for satan. errrr and yes, i'm a girl. but satan is far better:)

An ex of mine had a band called Satan's Cheerleaders before she formed Jucifer.

girls and satan: aren't the two words like synonyms

Girls. Girls are cool.

I was expecting this thread to be about a band called Girls vs Satan (I mistyped that as Girls vs Stan - another good band name), as I've been caught out by thread titles of weird band names before. Jucifer is quite a good name too, as it happens.

edit: there should also be a band whose sole aim is to destroy the Foo Fighters. They'd be called Foocifer - the anti-Foo.

you dated amber valentine?

I was her first boyfriend in Athens. Her father is an art professor at Berry College in Rome, GA. She moved to Athens at seventeen & we met at a Crash Worship show because she like the way I danced. We went back to my attic apartment that night which was infested with fleas. She liked my artwork. My other roommates, including Barry Sell, had already moved out because they knew what was coming. I had foolishly decided to try & ride it out. Amber rescued me from the fleas & I moved into her rented Nantahala St. house. She was playing songs on an acoustic back then by her favorite band, the Indigo Girls, which tickles me to this day. We broke up a few months later on July 4th during a rainstorm when I asked her If i should just leave & she said, "yes." She hadn't been communicative for a couple of weeks & I knew something was wrong. She stole my combat boots & some books & tapes, because when I went back for them she feigned not knowing where they were. She married Noah Ray shortly after that who had been the little skater kid in R.E.M.'s
It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine) video. She readily admitted to me that she came to Athens to meet R.E.M. & start a music career & I guess Noah helped her open some doors by introducing her to Jared Bailey & Barrie Buck who owned & booked the 40 watt, for instance. Basically, she threw me over for Noah who she probably met when I was still living with her, but we still were seeing each other because when I left her house I ended up (eventually) at one of her friends' (this gay guy named Jodi's apartment). They divorced after a year or so & he opened up a coffee shop, Blue Sky Coffee (rich parents). Years later she came to the Taco Stand where I was working downtown & as you take the order you have to get the name of the person & I asked her name & she got all offended saying, "C'mon, David, you know who I am." Thing is, under all that make-up & the wig, I thought it was her, but then again there were so many Courtney Love clones around Athens at that time, I wasn't absolutely sure.

nice man!!

yeah, the courtney love look is not that fly.

what if satan is a girl, uh?
uh?

Been dazed and confused for so long its not true,
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
Lots of people talk and few of them know,
Soul of a woman was created below. yeah!
You hurt and abused tellin all of your lies,
Run around sweet baby, lord how they hypnotize.
Sweet little baby, I dont know where youve been,
Gonna love you baby, here I come again.
Every day I work so hard
Bringin home my hard earned pay
Try to love you baby, but you push me away.
Dont know where youre goin
Only know just where youve been,
Sweet little baby, I want you again.
Been dazed and confused for so long, its not true,
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
Take it easy baby, let them say what they will.
Will your tongue wag so much when I send you the bill?

---an 'ol misogynist blues riff/rip by Led Zeppelin taking its cue, no doubt, from that venerated ancient Hebrew creation myth play that became more famously known as the Book of Genesis & the supposedly irrefutable Holy Word of God

---she had a B-52s/Courtney thing going on when I saw her last & looked horrible actually.

'Cos it says in the Bible that that's how it is.

God being everything, the real world and man are nothing. God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave.
If God is, man is a slave; now, man can and must be free; then, God does not exist.

The Bible, which is a very interesting and here and there very profound book when considered as one of the oldest surviving manifestations of human wisdom and fancy, expresses this truth very naively in its myth of original sin. Jehovah, who of all the good gods adored by men was certainly the most jealous, the most vain, the most ferocious, the most unjust, the most bloodthirsty, the most despotic, and the most hostile to human dignity and liberty-Jehovah had just created Adam and Eve, to satisfy we know not what caprice; no doubt to while away his time, which must weigh heavy on his hands in his eternal egoistic solitude, or that he might have some new slaves. He generously placed at their disposal the whole earth, with all its fruits and animals, and set but a single limit to this complete enjoyment. He expressly forbade them from touching the fruit of the tree of knowledge. He wished, therefore, that man, destitute of all understanding of himself, should remain an eternal beast, ever on all-fours before the eternal God, his creator and his master. But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge.

this song is so damn sinister with jealousy it's crazy...


Well I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or I won't know where I am

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl

Well you know that I'm a wicked guy
And I was born with a jealous mind
And I can't spend my whole life
Trying just to make you toe the line

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl

Let this be a sermon
I mean everything I've said
Baby, I'm determined
And I'd rather see you dead

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl

I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or you won't know where I am

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl
Na, na, na
Na, na, na
Na, na, na
Na, na, na
Well I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or I won't know where I am

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl

Well you know that I'm a wicked guy
And I was born with a jealous mind
And I can't spend my whole life
Trying just to make you toe the line

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl

Let this be a sermon
I mean everything I've said
Baby, I'm determined
And I'd rather see you dead

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl

I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or you won't know where I am

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end'a little girl
Na, na, na
Na, na, na
Na, na, na
Na, na, na

oh fuck
i thought the topic titel would be god vs. satan

uhh
my fault

That's OK, it was interesting anyway.

I completely agree. To me, the Bible is the world's greatest book of wisdom & I've read them all. Problems throughout history have arisen because people take it too literally, however.

The letter of the law killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

i have to say. religion bores me. and the bible is a wonderful emetic.

i'll go with the tao te ching any day of the week over judeochristian psychosis. just sayin'

That's a truly great book. I have the Aleister Crowley translation. I've read it through a number of times and I dip into it regularly.

ha! i knew it. tuffest titty ever.

truncated solely has the red bars & the karma of "cold hard sucka", so I think you may just have to settle for second place hehe.

You do realise there are soooo many similarities between the two, right? Admittedly, the Tao te Ching is somewhat more digestible, but there are a hulluva lot of similarities.

well, the Tao te Ching is more universal & it was the very first book of wisdom actually since it was written some 10,000 years B.C. (or B.C.E, if you prefer); it definitely relates to modern science & astrophysics much more too.

but, how much art has the Tao Te Ching really inspired? Not much.
on the other hand, how much war has the Tao Te Ching inspired? Not much. There was a brief tangle with the Confucians, but that was about it. The I-Ching is actually equal parts Taoism & Confucianism really.

I'm a western white man & a Kierkegaard devotee, so my unconscious gets more stimulated by The Bible ultimately.
The New Testament is about Christ as a symbol for the Self. Too bad more so-called Christians just don't get it. They should be required to study C.G. Jung's essay on the matter.


that was a good comeback, oh spunky one. haha

I may be off on a limb here, but wasn't the Tao Te Ching lost and re-written sometime in the AD era? I seem to remember that from studying it a few years ago... Perhaps not as recently as AD, but I do seem to remember it was restructured after it was banned in one of China's many political upheavals...

I've studied plenty of theistic religions, and they are virtually all violent. The gods of the Enuma Elish are brutal. Most of the gods of Greek mythology are careless and view mankind as a game. Judeo-Christianity/Islam is severely harsh. South American religions were full of mass human sacrifice. Jehovah is actually the only deity that guarantees an afterlife - a sort of redemption. The Bible doesn't view Satan as an eternal rebel, he's just the manifestation of free will. According to the Bible, man was made to worship Jehovah. In order to do it properly they had to choose to. To choose, they needed an alternative. Adam and Eve chose the "wrong path". Then Christianity branched out and claimed that Jesus was a second chance, where each man can make up for the choice individually through a single choice. Jehovah is hardly hostile in light of what was really supposed to be conveyed. The only problem is providing evidence that this, or any other religion, could possibly be real.

& Socrates, who was another main man for Kierkegaard besides Jesus, was put to death for impiety...questioning the gods of Athens.

The majority of the world's nations that terms themselves as having a Christian majority are actually much more Old Testament-minded than New Testament. The Old Testament is all about setting up initial civilizations. As such, it's pretty brutal & dogmatic & essentially about the history of a very bloody glorified tribal religion. Judgement is its cornerstone. Jesus taught, "Judge not lest ye be judged." The New Testament is (with the exception of a lot of St. Paul's writing & Revelations) about a revolution of human consciousness that still has never taken place yet & probably never will without massive suffering; such is human nature.

Perseverance Furthers.

What is the third choice? The rock band Queen?

Anyway, I chose Satan. Satan and girls are both evil, but with Satan you know what you're getting into up front when your soul is taken away.

Revelation is not war-like either. It's been hijacked by the fundies. The central message of Revelation is that there will be a healing river which flows from the throne and the lamb, and that the city of God will open its gates to all nations and peoples....the followers of the lamb are victorious, but if you notice there are no actual descriptions of battle.

It's not absolutely certain, as I understand it.

Lao Tzu lived roughly 580-500 BC (or he was born anywhere around 600-300BC), but some scholars believe the text to predate him by several centuries.

what the fuck is with LAMBS. such a crock. i stick w/ dh lawrence's reading, minus the antisemitism.

Lambs are symbolic.

And in regard to what atari said, he's right. The New Testament is ideologically very anti-violence. Including that directed towards homosexuality. Christianity is extremely misunderstood - especially by Christians.

yeah D.H. Lawrence's Apocalypse...very angry stuff, but right on nonetheless about the history of that revenge fantasy book that has become the common interpretation of Revelations...

The purpose of Revelation was to present an antithesis to the Roman Goddess of war, Nike (Victory). It was a subversive message. The point is that the Christians are victorious without being warlike. They follow a little lamb who has been slain and yet somehow still stands. It's a symbol of non-violent resistance.