What do you love/hate about music right now?
 

Not your own (unless you put anything out). You start, I haven't finished eating my baguette.

I'm enjoying plenty of foreign music at the moment. I think the language barrier lets me listen more to the melodies, and they are good melodies.

I hate how everyone and their grandma has a fucking band right now. I love how paying for music has become, for the most part, optional.

I love that there are so many great drone releases coming out in the meantime since it's that genre that I fancy the most nowadays.

I hate the fact that there's no way I could keep up with all the releases put out by bands I like.

Love - the sheer variety and creativity of some of the better music out there at the moment. The greatness of some writing within the blogosphere.

Hate - The ever-increasing tabloidisation of music coverage in the UK, and the continuing pointless existence of the NME - once a genuinely entertaining and iconoclastic read, now reduced to whoring themselves to the major record labels to get "exclusive" access to the likes of the worthless Coldplay and the vacuous Kylie. Also: Noel "I'm a stupid, bigoted cunt" Gallagher and Jo "yah, I'm so indie OK, I was just saying this to my girlfriend Mary J Blige at the nail salon in Soho" Whiley.

love- tonnes of great music that suprise you when you come accross it

hate- tonnes of shite shite music that pisses you off when you come accross it.

I love to discover new bands thanks to this board.
I hate the "music" on the radio.

love - blues/garage/etc revival
love - what the NME would call "new weird america"

hate - the fact that everything good is relatively obscure to the mainstream public and not getting the exposure it deserves

is that different to what the wire calls new weird america?

is what wire calls new weird america like devendra banhart and ariel pink and shit like that? they all live in LA and take DMT.

i don't know, i don't read any music magazines, i find them all to be pretty shit and very boring

love - there's no restriction on music anymore. Anyone can make it -- which obviously spawns lots of bad shit, but it also means there's tons of amazing shit we'll actually hear thanks to myspace, soulseek, etc. Anyone with a computer can easily record albums now. It's nice. Also, plenty of great labels (Tzadik, Ipecac, Web of Mimicry) still release plenty of innovative records. Never to be taken for granted.

hate - The wrong bands (No Age, Be Your Own Pet, HEALTH, Deerhunter, etc.) usually get all the attention. Not that all those bands are necassarily awful, but there are plenty more amazing bands doing plenty more amazing things that never get the exposure they deserve. It's always been like that, though, and I guess in this age -- when any band is a soulseek/myspace/youtube/last.fm away -- I figured it wouldn't totally 100% be like that.

Also, when I think of new weird america, I try to just focus on cerberus shoal and six organs of admittance and sun city girls. You know, the good stuff that gets lumped in that supposed "genre".

love - I love how younger bands have realized that putting out a vinyl release with a CD-R of the record inside, or a coupon for a free download of the album allows their fans to blast forth their music in any way they so choose, but still get a sweet piece of art in the vinyl.

hate - as always, bleep bloop electronic repetetive music made by some dipshit on his apple computer.

love: there is a higher volume of incredible underground and extreme bands in america now than there ever has been.

hate: there is a higher volume of absolute bullshit bands in america than there ever has been.

the reason those bands are gettin more exposure is because, though theyre so called 'underground', theyre still a helluva lot more accesible than say, rat bastard. i generally think of there being an 'underground', with bands like no age and deerhunter and liars, and then a 'sub underground', where the really wild shit goes down. i mean, i like no age, they make nice enthemic sing alongs, and deerhunter is pretty good, and liars used to be sorta allright, but none of those bands are anything fascinating, and are all pretty easy to grasp. thats why they get all the exposure. its always been like that. in the 80s, you could read a hundred articles about the replacements and rem every week, but prolly would have to break your neck to find something about hanatarash or borbetomagus. underground and sub-underground.

I honestly think LIARS kinda suck ass. Drum's Not Dead is cool but having recently went back and listened to their entire recorded output... wow. Like I've always said, they're awful songwriters (and actually kinda shitty musicians), and the only really talented members left after the first album. They get a lot of credit for "changin their sound" every album -- but tons of bands do that and with a lot more interesting results than LIARS. Also, the singer for that band is just completely awful; he uses the same "chanting nonsense through a distortion pedal" effect on every song. I heard bands like HEALTH called "Liars-like" now. What the fuck does that even mean? LIARS do have some cool songs scattered throughout their catalogue, but their EP's especially are filled with shit. Yet somehow... SOMEHOW... I still have an urge to listen to them, hoping they'll do something amazing. Drum's Not Dead is pretty awesome beginning to end, but I love drums in general and I mainly like that album for the way the drums sound.

Okay, sorry to derail the thread, back on topic...

'drums not dead' was a very cool record. trippy, good to get stoned too, etc.. 's/t' was shit, which ive said many times. 'they were wrong so we drowned' was like 5th rate nowave/noise rock, fuck it. 'they us all in a trench' was cool.

drum's not dead, to me, sounds like they were trying to do a "dark-indie" vision creation newsun (which itself was a more psychadelic "future days"), but it is good.

they were wrong so we drowned, I've always hated that album, there is one song on it that is absolutely genius though... that "I'll take care of you" song..

After I saw Liars live 2 months ago, I can honestly say they're one of the best current live bands around. The show was infernal.

maybe they are awesome live, I wouldn't know. Some bands are great live but I hate their records (like the Locust).

Love that changes in technology have allowed more bands to go their own way without much industry involvement

Hate the ongoing conservatism of 90% of 'indie' fans.

I saw Liars live and was very underwhelmed, but I do not know if they ahd an off night or if opening up for Interpol made them listless and boring, because interpol's dullness is contagious, but Liars played a boring hald assed 45 minute set. no interest in seeing them again, especially after hearing two of their releases.

Love:

- that, having fallen out of love with the guitar, I'm not heading down the mid-to-late 20s route of only listening to the odd Stereophonics record once every 6 monhts.
- That both of my housemates are into music that I simply wouldn't ever give the time to, much of it amazing.
- That I've re-discovered my love for live music.
- That I live in a city where there's not too much music (cf London) but not too little (my parochial backwash hometown).
- That I've found ways to make a regular record-buying habit affordable.
- That I've lost the pathological desire to listen to everything new.
- That, every now and then, I'll hear something amazing and new.

Hate:

- Talking about it in the real world, with rare exceptions.
- The general idiocy of everyone except for (and including) me with their (my) musical opinions
- Slap bass
- The word 'wacky'
- Comedy music that isn't funny
- 'Canonical' rock music

is that your memory of the 80s?

I just wish I had more time to listen to and enjoy music.

Its hard for me to say, since I'm stuck in culture death houston suburbs.

My impression is that Soulja boy is the be all end all for the typical white suburban kid pussies who enjoy the ocassional magical negro to add variety to their musical diet of Toby Keith and Rascall Flats....
The be all end all of rock where I live is basically teh chili peppers and foo fighters, and the occasional "hipster" who managed to find the postal service... XD Everyone thinks my music is weird as hell.

And yeah this may be off topic on some level, but I'm sharing my perspective of hte current musical landscape XD

drive into the nether regions in the shadow of H-town.
that's where I roll.

you know what i love? that caroliner is still together. ... right?

I am fucking disgusted at just how close-minded and unwilling to expand and diversify the modernday music industry has become. Everything is dumbed down, aggravatingly formulaic and vacant of spirit.

Somehow beyond this an uprising of unsigned and dare I say 'independent' bands have skyrocketed it's way into the mindsets of the general public, through an advancement of technology, and a shift in focus focus by a general clique of young aspiring and hopeful, yet contrived aristocrats and struggling musicians.

But from a spectator's eye, the music industry is nearly more fucked and idiotic than it has ever been before and is allowing itself to tragically rot from the inside out.

I predict another revolution of intellectually certified musicianship coming right before the absolute peak of corporate drone.

i'm not sure if i hate anything, or at least i'm sufficiently successful in shielding myself from that which i hate that i have forgotten that i hate it.


actually, that thread reminded me, i do despise the kills

Trying to think of a band I really hate is quite hard really. Probably anything that's had Paul Weller involved at some point.

You can't hate The Jam surely?

Well that's the problem, I sort of don't. I don't like them much, but certainly don't hate them either. Everything after that I do though. I mean hating The Style Council is pretty straightforward.

EDIT: God i can't even say that I hate The Style Council because I quite like Walls Come Tumbling Down.

don't worry, i hate the jam

I wish i could get some more chili fans where i live, all the people listen to around here is either that crazy fast double bass drum and pig squealing shit or fuckin lil wayne(the mans a beast but hes gettin old real fast) or hellogoodbye happy emoish "cute" music.

I love there is alot more freedom for artists to do what they want and that its easier for artists or people that like to make music do things and actually make a decent living(kinda) with that. like the internet and technology, it doesnt take as much to make a good recording and put out on da world wide web.

yeah we've got enough of that to.... I like the chili peppers, but I associate them with the jocks quite a bit : /

A band as genuinley angry as say.. Black Flag couldn't exist in today's musical climate. The anger that you heard in those records and live came from shitty touring conditions, the frustrations of living from dollar to dollar, and an overall state of alienation... all of those things are taken away by the easy accesability and use of the internet.

The internet has taken away the need for extensive guerilla promotion (another interesting facet of the Flag), for a band to be truly hated but still try, in essence it takes some of the passion and effort out of making music. Sure its a great convenience and takes away some of the above mentioned troubles, but on an artistic level, I'm gonna have to dispute the helpfulness of the internet.

The internet really really takes away some of the joy of finding things through exploring, I'd much rather find a band by taking a chance at a record store, rather than clicking on some band's site because I saw that it got a million hits.

And with the internet being the defining object of everything these days, music included, I'm gonna classify this as an argument against music's current path.

Ha! thats funny, do they rock out to the chilis before the big game?

I love that the reggae scene in Los Angeles just wont day, you can see all the legendary artists EVERY year, year after year, and some of these brethren are getting old!

I hate that everyone thinks they know about music, when so many people have little to know experience with the shit, and so they are idiots.

on this same line of thinking, I hate that everyone has some Ipod now, as if they all just love music that much. I have been dedicated with my headphones since the day, years solid, and I hate to look like all these weirdos who suddenly pull out their ipod on the bus like, "oh yeah, i got music to listen to?.." no shit asshole! I-man have been as dedicated to music as wearing shoes! I could never forget to put on my music, cuz it is ALWAYS on my ears, and so, I hate music lover pousers, who floss music players for novelty or even worse, status. I-pod=exploitation of music by the masses, even worse then radio, especially when you look at what is on these ipods...