I'm so fucking tired of people complaining about the price of gas
 

Every fucking day I hear about it.

And about how bad the economy is. Blah blah blah.

Until November, nobody can do shit about the price of gas.

If I comment on the situation, most people start a pro-Republican rant.

If only these people would stop watching Fox News and listening to Rush Limbaugh.

Welcome to the Bitter State of Pennsylvania

Guns, anyone? How about Religion?

in november, if a democrat is elected... gas prices will get even higher.

to back that up... the oil companies aren't taxed worth a shit right now. with a democrat in office, the oil companies will be heavily taxed and just who do you think is going to pay for that?

Have you been chatting with my dad?

Our biggest problem right now is that the oil companies who set the prices are allowed to speculate on oil futures. So if they raise the price of oil, they make money on speculation. The law that allows them to do this was written by Enron Lobbyists and Republican senator Phil Gramm and signed into law by Bill Clinton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_loophole

time to come back to DC, the gun ban was overturned this morning, so free glocks for all!

No chance of an American Auschwitz, then.

i was just reading the post!

now when members of the mara salvatruca start shooting at each other, bystanders can participate!

woohoo! the wild west!

Hooray for the Supreme Court!

banning handguns in such a dangerous and violent city, to create "safety" for the rich politician assholes was just fucked up.

guns for everyone!

yeah but futures dont necessarily have to go up or have negative consequences.

my old apartment building heated with oil, and they had a kickass long-term deal on oil prices with the supplier-- even as prices climbed, they maintained a low cost. the company made up for this, he claimed, by trading on oil futures.

now what do you think will happen to oil futures if tomorrow we discover a new cheap technology for solar prices & develop an infrastructure for natural gas in cars?

on a related note, a huge sugar producer in florida is going out of business & selling its land back to the state to help restore the everglades. i don't know if you see the connection, but that's a step closer to having cheap ethanol imports-- which yes, i know, aren't sufficient-- but anything helps.

how high are prices in america compared to europe?

it's not so dangerous

flint, michigan; st louis, detroit, memphis, orlando,oakland, miami gardens, little rock, baltimore, philadelphia, atlanta, dleveland, nashvil, miami, st petersburg, stockton and springfield (the simpsons?) have a higher violent crime rate.

Then again, criminals can get guns while civilians cannot, so that makes things uneven.

Be Your Own Rambo!

one gallon of regular unleaded gasoline costs from $3.85-$4.50
Diesel gasoline is selling at $5.15-$5.75 a gallon

Just 4 years ago it was $1.50-$1.75 a gallon for unleaded regular and diesel was ALWAYS, ALWAYS at least 50 cents cheaper per gallon. I do nnot understand why diesel has gone up so much compared to gasoline. diesel is easier to refine, cheaper to make, less dangerous to trasnport, etc. it makes no fucking sense at all, unless the asholes that run this shit are doing it to keep people from buying cars and trucks that can be converted to biodiesel.

the problem is, like mangajunky said, that everything is based on speculation and since the u.s. is currently in a state of permanent panic, then shit is going through the roof.

why don't they fight media terrorism in the u.s.?

they are lots lower

but then again this is a bigger country where people are accustomed to driving long distances, and where suburban areas were built around the car-- many suburban streets don't even have sidewalks, public transportation is useless, and you must drive everywhere.

Gas prices are around 4 dollars a gallon right now.

Unfortunately we lack the great public transportation that Europe has that makes up for it. We used to, but the gov't completely fucked that up with overregulation- it made it completely unprofitable. There used to be a passenger trains all around Pittsburgh that would take you downtown or away from town.

in the 1950s general motors bought all the trolley systems (except for san francisco's) & ripped them apart.

what happened after that was this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_sprawl

exactly. Gas is cheaper here, about 3.70 right now, but I live in one of the biggest cities area-wise in the US. You cannot function in okc without a vehicle. Not suggesting that car pooling or something like that isn't an option for some, but my job doesn't allow it. My kid goes to school about 20 miles away which is 80 miles a day right there. Adds up.

you need a smart car

my neighbor has one. It's cute! I'm not buying a car until I have to. People constantly run into me. Always from the back when I'm stopped.

Where I live in the UK unleaded fuel costs £1.20 per litre. That's the equivalent of approx $8.50 per gallon.

you americans have nothing to complain about

you're missing the point, the country is set up differently so it depends on cheap fuel just like limeyland depends on the constant flow of tea.

apples, oranges.

now if you ask me, is the setup of this country fucked up? i'll say most wholeheartedly YES. but millions are literally trapped in such a setup and can't yank their homes from the ground and move into an apartment in an area with high population density overnight.

bad strategy, yes, but it was setup when car companies used to run the government.

The smart car is fucking stupid...and ugly.
For all the space you're giving up you ain't getting enough of a mileage benefit. If you want amazing mileage get a Volkswagon Diesel, or a Toyota Yaris - this way you're riding a real car instead of that yuppie status shit car sold by Mercedes here in the USA.

oh - and comparitive gas prices around the world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_prices

here is the high price and low price in the world.
country - per liter - per gallon

Sierra Leone
$4.87 USD/L
$18.43 USD/G
Venezuela (Caracas)
$0.05 USD/L
$0.19 USD/G

i'm tired of people bitching too. don't drive, take public transportation, carpool, ride your bike, walk......
that too. in europe the gas prices are far higher than in the US.



and also, you guys better get used to it because they're not going down any time soon.

is that what it is? i thought they looked cool, and figured they'd be more efficient than SUVs, but i'm no car expert. yaris? what's a yaris?

a yaris is a toyota hybrid. isn't it?
maybe it's not a hybrid

just look for a car with a good reliable diesel engine and manual transmission and you should be good.

Hot.

you have a kid?!?!

you don;t think floatingslow would hang out for ten years without gettin tap tap tap on that uterus huh?

Well where I live there is essentiallly no public transportation.
Houston is a joke in that regard.

And people have every right to complain about gas prices, if it effects their ability to pay their bills and feed their family, than I'd be surprised if they didn't complain.... and yeah things are only gonna get worse before they get better.

buses, trains and all that shit also run on diesel and gasoline, so it affects them too, and public school transportation, and truckers, and delivey people, and shipping companies,a nd grocery stores and everything

Exactly. Its an epidemic.

Well yeah. I'm nearly 37 and have been married for 12 years. I've got an 11 year old super blond boy.

i am well aware that it affects the price of everything. however if you use any of the aforementioned methods of transportations (ie NOT drive as normal) you will be saving more money.

:D

americans complaining about petrol prices makes me laugh to a point. i feel for you guys but believe me, you aint seen nothing yet. petrol prices here ahve risen stupidly even home heating oil has risen 95% in the last 6 months... so its not all about driving yr flash car or anything its about life itself... its gonna get worse... ireland still isnt as band as the uk tho, its getting there tho. also diesel is much dearer here now than petrol, thats changed from last year when the sales of diesel cars rocketed to combat rising petrol prices...

ive said this before on another thread. if you dont drive or dont have much usage of oil/petrol then fair enough but if you depend on your car for day to day living (we have to run 2 cars here due to kidz, jobs, locallity of living) then you can complain. im tired of people complaining about people complaining and then saying you cant do anything about it.. YES YOU CAN you can vote.........

governments should eliviate the ridiculous tax on fuel for the moment... it may stop a disaster that is imminent.....

as for the smart car.. i wouldnt be able to live with myself driving a car that you have to pull backwards on the carpet to make it go........ also if you get caught in someone elses accident... you are fucked!

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