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MellySingsDoom 07.13.2008 08:51 AM

Nico's "The Marble Index" Appreciation Thread
 
I listened to this album for the first time in ages yesterday, and had forgotten how stunning it is. Anyone else here love this album too?:

 

marleypumpkin 07.13.2008 09:46 AM

I know how great Chelsea Girl is, so I'm most certainly interested in hearing this. Care to give a review?

radarmaker 07.13.2008 09:58 AM

Julian Cope on The Marble Index: http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/albumofthemonth/1655
Quality stuff.

The Earl Of Slander 07.13.2008 01:04 PM

I love love love The Marble Index, but I personally slightly prefer Desertshore from that period. "Afraid" is one of the most flooringly beautiful songs ever. The entire Frozen Borderline set is basically heaven for me.

sarramkrop 07.13.2008 05:22 PM

There isn't and never will be anything like it.

atari 2600 07.13.2008 06:14 PM

proof meet pudding; pudding meet proof.
check my post from May last year in sarramkrop's VU thread:
http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...ble+ index%22

I nearly listened to the album the other day, but instead opted to listen to a performance of Nico with Tangerine Dream from 12/13/74 which took place at Notre Dame Cathedral...yep.

atsonicpark 07.13.2008 06:30 PM

i listened to this a few years ago. it scared my balls.

15175 N. Mary St.

MellySingsDoom 07.13.2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
proof meet pudding; pudding meet proof.
check my post from May last year in sarramkrop's VU thread:
http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=13131&page=4&highlight=%22marble+ index%22

I nearly listened to the album the other day, but instead opted to listen to a performance of Nico with Tangerine Dream from 12/13/74 which took place at Notre Dame Cathedral...yep.


Well, well, well - sehr synchronicity-like Mr atari. ;)

Tangerine Dream AND Nico? Ye gods, never heard of that collaboration before...

krastian 07.13.2008 06:48 PM

My thoughts exactly.....pretty wild.

atari 2600 07.13.2008 08:41 PM

The FM broadcast is mostly (the first five) Nico and harmonium doing some Desertshore, but the boot's epic closer features Tangerine Dream. Oh, and I failed earlier to clarify that the show was at Notre Dame in Reims, not Paris.

Lookee
http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARr...nicoreims.html

When I went to a friend's house the other day he was playing some great-sounding early Tangerine Dream, and thus prompted the listen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigO
According to the wikipedia, on December 13, 1974, Nico was the support act at Tangerine Dream's infamous concert at Reims Cathedral in north-east France. The promoter had so greatly oversold the capacity of the venue that attendees could not move or reach the outside, eventually resulting in some fans urinating inside the cathedral hall. As a result, the Roman Catholic Church denounced these actions, ordered the rededication of the cathedral and banned future gigs on church property.
(although)
Years later, under the sponsorship of filmmaker David Lynch, Jocelyn Montgomery would try and rethread the path taken earlier by Nico. But within the confines of the Reims cathedral, the sincerity in Nico's delivery cannot be fudged or mistaken for anything else.


Dead-Air 07.13.2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marleypumpkin
I know how great Chelsea Girl is, so I'm most certainly interested in hearing this. Care to give a review?


Chelsea Girl is a great album, but by comparison it comes off as completely pop. Marble Index is one of the most haunting things ever put to wax and the stark minimalism just makes it more powerful. I think it's Cale's very best work as a producer. What we think of today as "gothic" music, minus the cheesey side started with this record.

Pretty good explanation on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marble_Index_(album)

Everyneurotic 07.13.2008 10:16 PM

i fucking love it, one of my neglected favorite albums ever.

SuperCreep 07.13.2008 10:27 PM

One of my top twenty-five albums ever. Absolutely chilling and oddly gorgeous at the same time (especially during Ari's Song.) I could almost get a heart attack during Evening of Light. Can't believe this one was released in '68!

Also, everyone should get The Frozen Borderline compilation that came out last year if you don't have it. It has The Marble Index and Desertshore plus a few unreleased tracks and lotsa alternate takes. Real quality shtuff.

marleypumpkin 07.13.2008 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Chelsea Girl is a great album, but by comparison it comes off as completely pop. Marble Index is one of the most haunting things ever put to wax and the stark minimalism just makes it more powerful. I think it's Cale's very best work as a producer. What we think of today as "gothic" music, minus the cheesey side started with this record.

Pretty good explanation on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marble_Index_(album)


I thank everyone for putting in their insight into this album. I'm most certainly gonna try finding it & giving it a listen.

Glice 07.14.2008 02:17 PM

I'm with all of the pant-wetting. I quite often come back to the Marble Index when I start thinking that there's not much point to 'experimental' music. Gorgeous, and one of the rare rock albums that does things that other rock doesn't.

✌➬ 07.14.2008 02:18 PM

Thanks will look for it.

marleypumpkin 07.14.2008 02:20 PM

This was the first thing I listened to today, & was blown away. Everything is beautifully arranged, & haunting at times. "Facing The Wind" stood out the most for me.

atari 2600 07.15.2008 07:54 PM

I went to a newish local record, dvd and cd store today and in the used cds is a copy of The Marble Index...no foolin'. It was eight bucks, but seeing as I downloaded mine lossless last year, I didn't buy it. I even had my copy with me today for listening on the laptop.

Society_In_My_Hole 07.24.2008 07:35 PM

I love this album, wish I had it with me right now... I have Chealse Girls but Marble Index is just pure AMAZING!

Torn Curtain 08.03.2008 08:18 AM

Only listened to it once, I should give it another go.

SuperCreep 08.03.2008 09:27 AM

I'm listening to Chelsea Girl right now. I really do like this record, but I wish Nico had her way with it. The flutes really are terrible.

Cantankerous 08.03.2008 09:30 AM

both chelsea girls and marble index are staggering records.

sarramkrop 08.03.2008 09:54 AM

Nico hated Chelsea Girls and I can see why. They added flutes to some of the songs which she was particularly unhappy with as she thought they ruined some of the songs.

demonrail666 08.03.2008 09:59 AM

I like both albums, but find having to endure Nico's voice for that length of time quite difficult. I like her voice, but can't take it in such long doses. The Marble Index especially is an album that I admire, rather than enjoy.

sarramkrop 08.03.2008 10:02 AM

I used to get stoned with my ex-boyfriend and laugh out really loud at her voice, which is still one the best for me. My friend used to refer to her as the German bitch whenever we put one of her records on.

demonrail666 08.03.2008 10:07 AM

Have you heard Bridget St. John's album Ask Me no Questions (1969)? Her voice and the arrangement of certain tracks are at times startlingly similar to Chelsea Girls.

 

sarramkrop 08.03.2008 10:08 AM

I don't think I have, but thanks for recommending it.

demonrail666 08.03.2008 10:11 AM

A slightly later clip and the silmilarities here aren't quite as striking as they are on that album, but you get the idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aDhlvPXD_I

sarramkrop 08.03.2008 10:14 AM

Thanks.

demonrail666 08.03.2008 10:21 AM

It's a bit of an obvious thing to say, but Nico is an artist that I really REALLY have to be in the mood for. At the right time she can be utterly vital, at others it's like I hear nothing. The sad fact is that I tend to be in an absolutely depressive mood when I am able to like her - during which she becomes maybe the only thing I'll listen to. The problem with this of course is that, when I can listen to her, I sort of wish I couldn't.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of another artist that I'm like that with.

sarramkrop 08.03.2008 10:27 AM

Nico is perfect when you are not aware of either been dead already or you wish you were. It's part of the appeal. It's squalid music for when your soul feels sqaulid, and I'm tankful for (some of) her records to exist.

!@#$%! 08.06.2008 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I listened to this album for the first time in ages yesterday, and had forgotten how stunning it is. Anyone else here love this album too?:




 


holy fuck. i bought that last sunday. it's good. it reminds me more than a bit of fursaxa.

i like chelsea girls better, but i like all nico albums. this one requires, hm, the right mood to listen. well waht music doesnt, eh...

--

i guess (funny coincidence, i posted from outside the thread) it's kinda like what porky sez ha ha.

except that there is no such thing as "the soul".

gmku 08.06.2008 11:01 PM

It's actually one of the only albums I've ever listened to that kind of scared me the first time I heard it.

deflinus 08.06.2008 11:27 PM

i loved chelsea girl. im interested in hearing this.

i was actually surprised she hated how chelsea girl came out

alteredcourse 08.06.2008 11:35 PM

I think I'll try this album on in autumn .

atari 2600 08.06.2008 11:53 PM

vibes for days

or

genuinely haunting

however you wish

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
except that there is no such thing as "the soul".

Hahaha. Best postscript ever.

RanaldoNecro 08.07.2008 12:05 AM

I used to get stoned with my ex-boyfriend and laugh out really loud at her voice, which is still one the best for me. My friend used to refer to her as the German bitch whenever we put one of her records on.

Her voice represents a German dialect. Whats so funny about that?

fugazifan 08.07.2008 02:15 AM

anybody care to share a DL link to this album?
much obliged

sarramkrop 08.07.2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fugazifan
anybody care to share a DL link to this album?
much obliged

Sorry I haven't read the whole thread, which one? Oh and I still have to pm you about you know what, sorry for the delay.


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