Any good 2008 jazz albums?
 

Who's heard any good jazz albums released in 08? Sun Ra's SOME BLUES BUT NOT THE KIND THAT's BLUE was really good. Beyond that I haven't seen much. A couple of Keepnews reissues looked alright, and ESP Disk recently reissued Milford Grave's all percussion album... though I've heard that's nothing too special. Any recomendations?

I am digging the Spider Trio's "Live at the Rendezvous" LP....that's Wally Shoup on sax with a couple members of the Climax Golden Twins. Available here... http://assophonrecords.blogspot.com/

Also lovin' the new one-sided LP by Little Women...
http://www.gilgongorecords.com/
...rather excellent for the "punk-free-jazz" slumtrip. Most bands can't pull that off for more than fleeting moments.

The last jazz album I bought was Hiromi's Sonic Bloom. I think I bought it in late '07, though, and it was probably around a little while already. I need to catch up on jazz.

weasel walter-early recordings
the thing re-issues
fire room-broken music
susie ibarra-drum sketches
the thing with ken vandermark-immediate sound
evan parker transatlantic art ensemble-boustrophedon
mike osborne re-issues
mary halvorson/weasel walter-opulence

theres always indredible jazz, free jazz, avant jazz, and improv jazz coming out every year, but they are hardly ever large scale releases these days. all these are worth checking out tho.

I 've heard good things about Fire room

batreleaser, I had no idea the Thing did something with Vandermark. Nice. Thanks.

And somehow I KNEW the Sherrif would have at least one suggestion. Funny, too because I had just recently read something about Fire Room.

Let's keep the recommendations coming. All ends of the jazz spectrum welcome. No such thing as a record that's too 'out' nor 'in.'

There's a reissue(sort of thing) for Peter Brotzmann's Die Like a Dog boxset consisting of all hte releases(4).
As well as other nurmerous Brotzmann reissues from Atavistic.

Vanderkmark 5 - Beat Reader

Wadada Leo Smith Golden Quartet - Tabligh

Sheriff, have you heard BEAT READER yet? I've been sort of eyeballing it since it came out. And that DIE LIKE A DOG got a pretty great review (I think from Allmusic) when it came out that had me interested as well.

Didn't jazz basically die around 1965?

No, sadly I haven't. Though since I heard of the Die Like a Dog boxset I've wanted to get my hands on it. I've been wanting to heart Little Birds have Fast Hearts for the longest time.

No. Miles Davis did.

So when Miles died, they destroyed all pre-1966 jazz records, and never reiussed any of them. I guess I forgot about that?

Yep. I learned about it in Jazz History class.

They also hung Count Basie with a stand-up bass string as Chick Corea's opening act.

Damn.
I think I've come to the conclusion I've got a creepy man crush on Peter Brotzmann, ha.

I honestly haven't heard a whole lot of jazz post-1965 that I like in the least, aside from some Sun Ra stuff.

LOL Ewww! :D You just like seeing him manhandle his big Teutonic horn, don't you? His early FMP albums still kick total ass, and it's good to know that he's still on fine form these days.

It's very different. I like it, but it's almost a completely different genre. You gotta find very specific sounds to get into modern jazz.

How hard are you looking?

Also sometimes it's good to go to jazz clubs instead of just listening to records. Liverpool has a pretty small jazz scene at the moment, well at least smaller than it used to be in the 60s, but what I've been hearing is gold. Marley Chingus Jazz Explosion and The Blue Nite Band are great, if you can find them on myspace perhaps..

My favorite modern jazz musicians:
Hiromi Uehara and Cecil Taylor

Though Taylor is a bit dated, he's still rather modern.

I saw Alan Wilkinson, Steve Noble and John Edwards in Dalston last Friday, and they put on a powerful and energetic performance. Jazz is still very much alive - it just takes a bit of rooting around for it these days, tis all...

Marc Ribot is my favourite guitarist of the past 20 years and I would file him under jazz.



He's always doing something exciting and never stays put in a style for too long, which is great.

I don't mean to say there aren't good jazz musicians. I just don't think jazz evolved into anything very interesting past Bitches Brew or so. It got either very tinkly new-agey sounding or else just went retro and replayed the old styles. I don't think it could much further than where Coltrane and Davis took it.

He is truely great. I got his Exercises in Futitlity a while back.
Though i'm not certain how to pronounce his last name.
Rib - It or Ry-Bo

Ree-bow.

Cecil Taylor and Ornette Coleman did.

I admire what they did throughout their careers but I don't think they did much beyond repeat what they had done prior to 1965.

You could say the same thing about any genre. There's nothing wrong with styles being replayed if they are good styles.

Thanks.:)

True. I just don't find new jazz very interesting because of that. & definitely "rock music" rehashes. Punk is just 50s rock sped up and angrier, for example.

What about free jazz?

Didn't free jazz happen before 1965?

Mid-50's I believe, even before Ornette and Co. Isn't there a Lennie Tristano tune that prefigures free jazz? Can't remember for the life of me at the moment what it's called, unfortunately.

Some some reason the year 1958 comes to mind.

Coleman started in '59. I don't know of anyone before him.

Derek Bailey claimed he was playing "free" jazz in 1956 or something like that (mainly in rehearsals and stuff)...

I suppose if you want to stretch the definition of jazz, the stuff Zappa and Beefheart is interesting. But then again they were rehashing past styles, too.

"The earliest documented example of free-form improvisation is a pair of 1949 recordings for Capitol by a group led by Lennie Tristano, "Intuition" and "Digression." These do not, however, seem to have had a direct influence on the later free jazz movement."

Good 'ol Wikipedia.

Thanks, acousticrock!

I've never heard of that. I wonder if they've been issued or something. If they can't assume the recordings held influence on free jazz despite coming ten years early, it's gotta be pretty out there.

Looks like they're on this release:

http://www.amazon.com/Intuition-Lenn.../dp/B000005H6T