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ALIEN ANAL 07.29.2008 11:59 AM

is it racist to mimic other accents
 
i wonder

floatingslowly 07.29.2008 12:07 PM

g'day, sheila.

vegans4veal 07.29.2008 12:19 PM

well firstly there are many different interpretations of what 'race' actually means; but in short, accents tend to have much more to do with nationality (or region) than the race of the individual with the accent.

it's much more racist to assume that a black man from liverpool won't have a liverpudlian accent because of his race.

viewtiful_alan 07.29.2008 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegans4veal
well firstly there are many different interpretations of what 'race' actually means; but in short, accents tend to have much more to do with nationality (or region) than the race of the individual with the accent.

it's much more racist to assume that a black man from liverpool won't have a liverpudlian accent because of his race.

Very true indeed.

!@#$%! 07.29.2008 12:21 PM

this is not a binary answer.

also, the vegan has the right idea. what the fuck is "race" and all that shit?

my tendency is to think that "race is racist". or the idea of it. yeah?

outward appearance/skincolor does not a race make.

ps - what the fuck is this "liverpool" you speak of?

pbradley 07.29.2008 12:23 PM

There can be and are a number of accents within any one "race" and there are accents that cross multiple "races."

So no, not even if wouldn't allow the race question to be asked.

pbradley 07.29.2008 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
outward appearance/skincolor does not a race make.

Explain that to the average to low educated.

Rob Instigator 07.29.2008 12:30 PM

make fun of everyone;'s accent. fuck it. we all do it. you could make fun of a frenchman, and for certain there are frenchmen making fun of yr american accent, you know?

pbradley 07.29.2008 12:31 PM

I can do a great Russian accent. Wait, I mentioned this on the irrelevant thread. Fuck, now it is relevant and the material has been used. What a waste.

vegans4veal 07.29.2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
what the fuck is this "liverpool" you speak of?


a small city in north west england.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool


they have funny accents.

pbradley 07.29.2008 12:34 PM

The home of the Beatles to us yanks.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 07.29.2008 12:35 PM

Depends on the context of the mimicry.

Rob Instigator 07.29.2008 12:36 PM

liverpoool
at
night
looks
bad-ass
 

!@#$%! 07.29.2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegans4veal
a small city in north west england.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool


they have funny accents.


hA HA HA

yes i know! i was just, eh, making fun of, assumptions, that, eh, never mind.

but if you're talking about funny accents, isn't birmingham where it's at? that's what i've heard anyway...

Rob Instigator 07.29.2008 03:41 PM

the two guys in PEEP SHOW, they sound homosexual to me but is is because they are british?

I don;t know.....

mangajunky 07.29.2008 03:44 PM

shit, I voted incorrectly - I meant "no"

It's totally okay...in context. You need to asses your situation before doing it.
I work in a multi-lingual office and we make fun of each other all the time.

floatingslowly 07.29.2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
the two guys in PEEP SHOW, they sound homosexual to me but is is because they are british?

I don;t know.....


^^ gaybasher.

SynthethicalY 07.29.2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL
i wonder



The brits have the best accents.

Rob Instigator 07.29.2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
^^ gaybasher.


who did I hit?

Everyneurotic 07.29.2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
...
but if you're talking about funny accents, isn't birmingham where it's at? that's what i've heard anyway...


nah nah nah nah, the motherload is wales; now that's talking funny.

Danny Himself 07.29.2008 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
nah nah nah nah, the motherload is wales; now that's talking funny.


Minnesota tops it for me.

MellySingsDoom 07.29.2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
The brits have the best accents.


You've not been to Croydon, haf ya me sahn? Fahckin 'ell, wot am oi doinn' 'ere, innit?

Danny Himself 07.29.2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegans4veal
a small city in north west england.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool


they have funny accents.


Fuck you! :mad:

MellySingsDoom 07.29.2008 06:21 PM

Looks like vegans4veal has done a Boris Johnson here!

Croydon accent = Fail
I have a Croydon accent
Ergo, me = Fail

I thanngyew

Derek 07.29.2008 06:22 PM

for a Scottish person, i don't have a particularly strong Scottish accent.

Danny Himself 07.29.2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Looks like vegans4veal has done a Boris Johnson here!


Yeah, I am going to milk this offence for all of it's worth, clearly. It is true that I have an absurdly scouse accent and it will be confirmed by users screamingskull, h8_kurdt, jon boy and racehorse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
for a Scottish person, i don't have a particularly strong Scottish accent.


A large portion of my family is from Glasgow and they all speak english like broken lawnmowers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
liverpoool
at
night
looks
bad-ass



Yeah getting GBH'd outside McDonalds is awesome with all of those purty lights.

floatingslowly 07.29.2008 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
who did I hit?


sometimes words hurt more than weapons, Captain Cretin.

:)


seriuz biznezz.

MellySingsDoom 07.29.2008 06:27 PM

Danny = there can only be one king of "comedy" accents, and here be he:

 

MellySingsDoom 07.29.2008 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
sometimes words hurt more than weapons, Captain Cretin.

:)


seriuz biznezz.


Oi, what did you do with my bathtub speed, sir? ;)

floatingslowly 07.29.2008 06:28 PM

that man's face creeps me out.

he's up to no good, I tells ya.

MellySingsDoom 07.29.2008 06:30 PM

Yak yak yak! *attempts to molest Barbra Windsor for the 1,000th time*

floatingslowly 07.29.2008 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Oi, what did you do with my bathtub speed, sir? ;)


don't look at me! I don't touch that shit.

besides, I read yr recipe and there's no way in hell I'm smoking KY jelly.

nice try, Mr. Doom.

MellySingsDoom 07.29.2008 06:35 PM

Damn, foiled again! I knew that KY jelly would be the giveaway.

floatingslowly 07.29.2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
foiled again!


4,998,780,075 base heads agree.

MellySingsDoom 07.29.2008 06:44 PM

And at least 3,000,000,000 will come and bother me at Melly Towers again.."What do you cut you shit with, pubic hair?"
"Errr..."

Savage Clone 07.29.2008 06:46 PM

I think it's OK as long as you wear blackface while you do it.
This applies to any mock accent.

Glice 07.29.2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
nah nah nah nah, the motherload is wales; now that's talking funny.


Preaching to the converted: Welsh isn't a singular accent. People from Bangor speak entirely differently to those from Swansea (particularly south Swansea). Birmingham isn't the same accent as Wolverhamton (it tends to be Wolves that get the bad rep). There's a difference between Geordies from North of the Tyne to South. I wouldn't confuse someone from 'ull with someone from Skeggy. There's a fairly large difference depending on which side of the Mersey you're on. Salford is masses different from Manc. For my part, there's a huge difference between a Cliftonite and a 'cliffer, and a difference again from a Wesser. That's not to mention the difference between a Hedger and a Pointy-head (I forget their proper name), which for the majority of you, given a map, would represent about 20 miles.

I used to live with a couple of Chinese people and they were astonished that there could possibly be a difference between London accents and Bristolian accents (ultimately, not a huge geographical gap). Is that the case where you're from?

I really like Britain. I really like the fact that, with a bit of work, you can start telling that such-and-such a person is from such-and-such a pole of the border and which team they're likely to support.

Everyneurotic 07.29.2008 07:42 PM

that is weird.

here, there's three different accents:

1) people from the south and the gulf talk one way.
2) people from the north (or past a certain mileage from the city) talk another way.
3) people from mexico city and immediate surroundings.

there's even slang differences and different words depending on each three, although most df-spiel is well known outside.

floatingslowly 07.29.2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I think it's OK as long as you wear blackface while you do it.

how do you feel about genetic modification?
 

✌➬ 07.29.2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
that is weird.

here, there's three different accents:

1) people from the south and the gulf talk one way.
2) people from the north (or past a certain mileage from the city) talk another way.
3) people from mexico city and immediate surroundings.

there's even slang differences and different words depending on each three, although most df-spiel is well known outside.


Chilango. Niero, which one damn it.


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