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noisereductions 08.25.2008 07:19 AM

SY piano album... ?
 
According to GOODBYE 20TH CENTURY (the book), Thurston & Lee were really into the idea of doing an album where they both only played pianos, but Kim squashed the idea.

What the F? Does anybody else think that had the potential to be amazing? I can't even imagine.

al shabbray 08.25.2008 07:34 AM

really?
I am wondering that they both can play the piano

SYRFox 08.25.2008 07:40 AM

That would be really great - as a SYR maybe?
Providence and Secret Girl are amazing tracks

al shabbray 08.25.2008 07:44 AM

oh yeah forget about them

noisereductions 08.25.2008 09:00 AM

Didn't Lee play a little synth of "Sympathy?"

atsonicpark 08.25.2008 09:04 AM

He played organ... Nothing really prominent of course.

I think a detuned piano album would be amazing.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.25.2008 09:08 AM

A whole album ? ....
Too much piano for me, I think. Maybe 2 or 3 songs, but not a whole album.
It would not be Sonic Youth but Boring Youth.
I don't want them to become The New Red Hot Chili Peppers...

mil_pl 08.25.2008 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
He played organ... Nothing really prominent of course.

I think a detuned piano album would be amazing.


also in 'i love you golden blue' is that right? (for sure live he did)

atsonicpark 08.25.2008 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
A whole album ? ....
Too much piano for me, I think. Maybe 2 or 3 songs, but not a whole album.
It would not be Sonic Youth but Boring Youth.
I don't want them to become The New Red Hot Chili Peppers...


Huh.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.25.2008 09:26 AM

????

noisereductions 08.25.2008 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
A whole album ? ....
Too much piano for me, I think. Maybe 2 or 3 songs, but not a whole album.
It would not be Sonic Youth but Boring Youth.
I don't want them to become The New Red Hot Chili Peppers...



That's a pretty daft assumption. I mean, you're saying that the musicians themselves would produce boring music if they switched to a different instrument? You're nuts. If anything it could result in one of their most adventurous albums since SYR4. RHCP? WTF?

mil_pl 08.25.2008 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
That's a pretty daft assumption. I mean, you're saying that the musicians themselves would produce boring music if they switched to a different instrument? You're nuts. If anything it could result in one of their most adventurous albums since SYR4. RHCP? WTF?


correct.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.25.2008 09:38 AM

Hey, keep cool man.
I mean that SY is a fucking good rock band with their guitars, I think a WHOLE album with piano instead of alternative tuned guitars would be a bit boring. I think the piano would be too restrictive.

And Lee and Thurston are not free Jazz pioano players...

noisereductions 08.25.2008 10:03 AM

Yeah the restriction is what makes it interesting. Y'know the ol' "necessity is the mother of invention" thing... or sort of how the restriction of having cheap guitars that couldnt stay in tune forced them to create amazing music with alt. tunings?

SonicBebs 08.25.2008 02:30 PM

changing to a different instrument (especially a pinao) would be fucking amazing. I reckon they'd get some spooky stuff going on. It can be such a haunting instrument

(didn't Jim play the keys on Sympathy and Golden Blue?) (how anal was that!?)

SonicBebs 08.25.2008 02:32 PM

It does make you wonder why they dont do it just not as SY.

Just cause Kim poo-pooed it I dont see why that should stop them doing a side project. Who does She think she is? Stupid Kim. (heh heh)

diskaholic-anonymous 08.25.2008 04:01 PM

...but they played already piano...and sounds goooooooooood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjbyN-IUUlA

viewtiful_alan 08.25.2008 04:27 PM

Music that is purely acoustic piano and nothing else can rarely hold my attention...

deflinus 08.25.2008 04:36 PM

is piano a string instrument or a percussion instrument?

Derek 08.25.2008 04:41 PM

String.

diskaholic-anonymous 08.25.2008 04:58 PM

both

HECKLER SPRAY 08.25.2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskaholic-anonymous
...but they played already piano...and sounds goooooooooood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjbyN-IUUlA

Yeah, they should play a whole album like that !!!:D
Damn, where are my ear plugs?

GrungeMonkey 08.25.2008 05:37 PM

i think it would be good as an SYR, not sure about a proper SY album, it has the potential both to be completely amazing or complete utter shite.

greedrex 08.25.2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
Yeah, they should play a whole album like that !!!:D
Damn, where are my ear plugs?


ditto
ubershite
there
i said it
sooooooooooooo self conscious and pretentious
i resent the band for releasing such a piece of shit
come on
this video sucks Bill Clinton's arse big time
ooo my

o'connor 08.25.2008 07:37 PM

sonic youth can do no wrong. i'd buy an album of nothing but them sucking farts out of each others ass's and think it was the most amazin gthing ever. well, maybe not think it was amazing, but i'd def buy and like it.

Dead-Air 08.25.2008 09:01 PM

I guess I can see where Kim was coming from if there are actually so many people on their own damn board who don't get why that would be an awesome thing to do and totally true to the spirit of Sonic Youth. Nonetheless, they didn't listen to the numbskulls who told them that doing a synth album was a bad idea, and we thankfully got The Whitey Album as a result. A whole album of "Providence" and "Secret Girl"s wouldn't be that amazing, but if they pushed the piano the way they've pushed the guitar, it could be a really awesome record. It's a rather safe bet that it would be a lot more like Fennesz than Red Hot Chili Peppers (wherever the fuck that came from...)

atsonicpark 08.25.2008 09:50 PM

Yeah, that's why I said .................. "Huh"

Red Hot Chili Peppers?

............

Anyway, I think this would be great probably. Can you imagine them just playing straight piano versions of some of their riffs? Would be some wild shit.

TROUT MASK REPLICA was completely composed on piano!!

The piano rules.

Dead-Air 08.25.2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Yeah, that's why I said .................. "Huh"

Red Hot Chili Peppers?

............

Anyway, I think this would be great probably. Can you imagine them just playing straight piano versions of some of their riffs? Would be some wild shit.

TROUT MASK REPLICA was completely composed on piano!!

The piano rules.


My friends Eet have some piano guts in their studio, which is totally cool. You can bang on the strings without any keys. Prepared piano where you fuck with the strings is essentially what SY do with guitars, and it's actually a lot easier to do than with a guitar.

I'm sure Kim was just like, "But what would I do??" And Thurston probably suggested she play dulcimer, and that was it for the whole idea...

atsonicpark 08.25.2008 10:44 PM

Hahaha.

Dead-Air, your posts are quality.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.26.2008 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Yeah, that's why I said .................. "Huh"

Red Hot Chili Peppers?

............

Anyway, I think this would be great probably. Can you imagine them just playing straight piano versions of some of their riffs? Would be some wild shit.

TROUT MASK REPLICA was completely composed on piano!!

The piano rules.

I volontarily went too far with this Red Hot comparison, just to provoke a debate, cause everybody here seems to be unanimous about this piano album.
Sincerely, if they did a piano album, would you listen to it as much as their other albums ?
It's a good idea for a SYR album.

Yeah, Trout Mask Replica was composed on piano, but not played entirely on piano (thank god)...

SonicBebs 08.26.2008 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
Sincerely, if they did a piano album, would you listen to it as much as their other albums ?
...


w?
i would if the music was good

i dont get why people are writing off piano music without even hearing it? Its like you've got some sort of punkrock gene definciency syndrome where your brain can only enjoy music with guitars

its stupid. The piano can produce some amazing intense fuckup sounds and moods.

mil_pl 08.26.2008 05:37 AM

kim rules with hammer :D

HECKLER SPRAY 08.26.2008 05:38 AM

Man, I used to play the piano for 7 years, I'm fed up with piano, and I don't like it when it 's too much used in rock music, like Radiohead does, for instance.
It's my opinion, it's not the gospel truth.

Death & the Maiden 08.26.2008 05:50 AM

I don't see anything wrong with the idea.

SonicBebs 08.26.2008 07:02 AM

I love that we're argueing about a hyperthetical (how do you spell that?) album!

noisereductions 08.26.2008 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
I guess I can see where Kim was coming from if there are actually so many people on their own damn board who don't get why that would be an awesome thing to do and totally true to the spirit of Sonic Youth.


EXACTLY! To me, it would make total sonic sense for them to do something so out of character.

atsonicpark 08.26.2008 10:04 AM

Well, I've listened to some John Cage pieces more than some Sonic Youth guitar songs, so I could see myself listening to a piano only Sonic Youth album. If it's good, you know.

I don't see why people would write it off -- it could be awesome.

The excellent band Bride of No No is a proggy no wave group who have songs of nothing but piano and it's amazing.

noisereductions 08.26.2008 10:15 AM

I dont understand the concept of the piano as a boring instrument at all. As atsonic pointed out, John Cage. Along with the likes of Sun Ra, Thelonious Monk, Bill Evans, Herbie Hancock, Brad Mehldau, Dick Hymen and countless others that I would never refer to as boring.

atsonicpark 08.26.2008 10:16 AM

I don't think any instrument is boring. Then again, I can listen to Judy Dunaway's "Balloon Music" (40 minutes of her rubbing a balloon) and not be bored in the slightest.

It's all about what you do with it -- it can just be a fucking TRIANGLE album and it'd probably be good if the artist was creative enough.

noisereductions 08.26.2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

It's all about what you do with it -- it can just be a fucking TRIANGLE album and it'd probably be good if the artist was creative enough.



Word up.


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