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SonicBebs 08.27.2008 05:01 AM

pay your favourite band (or the Kaiser Cheifs) to record an album
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...stry.investing

a new website/record label where fans pay from £10 to invest in their favourite bands. when they reach £100,000 the band record the album, give you a copy and 20% of the profits!

Maybe an idea for the new SY releases?

atsonicpark 08.27.2008 05:05 AM

...what?!

SonicBebs 08.27.2008 05:14 AM

its a new website/record label

bands sign to it and when they get £100,000 they do some work/record an album
interesting idea

SonicBebs 08.27.2008 05:14 AM

or, read the link

atsonicpark 08.27.2008 05:17 AM

I read it. I still think it's crazy.

MellySingsDoom 08.27.2008 05:27 AM

I'd pay to have the Kaiser Chiefs and Primal Scream killed.

Who the fuck needs £100,000 to record an album? All you need is a good live room, some decent mikes, and an engineer to get that stuff down on tape. No mess, most cheap and job done.


Even more so for people who record at home. A computer with a decent processor, some good onboard gear, and again, job done.

SonicBebs 08.27.2008 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I read it. I still think it's crazy.

oh, i get you.

i thought you were 'what'ing because you didn't understand rather than not getting it.

SonicBebs 08.27.2008 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Who the fuck needs £100,000 to record an album? All you need is a good live room, some decent mikes, and an engineer to get that stuff down on tape. No mess, most cheap and job done..


i agree. But its an interesting step for the industry and what seems to be fairley mainstream acts

atsonicpark 08.27.2008 05:31 AM

Right, Melly. I know guys who can make an album that sounds better than whatever bullshit LIARS just released with just a microphone and a laptop.

Hell, I've been recording all my albums on a computer mic for year and they sound decent!

Death & the Maiden 08.27.2008 05:43 AM

This isn't really a new idea. Einstuerzende Neubauten were (and still are, I think) doing something similar to this.

atsonicpark 08.27.2008 05:47 AM

For a time before I got a job, I asked $3 from people and I'd make a song for them. They'd give me lyrics or how they wanted the song to sound or whatever and I'd do it. Got about 40 responses. Was nice.

ZEROpumpkins 08.27.2008 05:51 AM

Nominated for thread title of the year.

Florya 08.27.2008 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I'd pay to have the Kaiser Chiefs and Primal Scream killed.


And you could probably get it done for considerably less than 100K.
If the hitman took a DAT recorder with him, I'd pay a tenner for a copy of the recording.
That sounds like a much more constructive use of my money.

ZEROpumpkins 08.27.2008 06:50 AM

I'll do it with my thighs alone.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.27.2008 06:54 AM

I could give 1000 bucks to Polvo to make a new record. Really. I'm rich.

SYRFox 08.27.2008 06:58 AM

We should get a website started where people could give $15 to a band and they would play the song you want them to play.

Or even another website where people could give $20 to a band and they would THE RECORD YOU WANT. Howcoolisthat.

SYRFox 08.27.2008 06:59 AM

I don't know, that thing is kind of strange, isn't it?

noisereductions 08.27.2008 07:50 AM

I dont know. This could be a good idea for certain bands. SY, Flaming Lips or Wilco for instance?

atsonicpark 08.27.2008 08:01 AM

...Hm. No.

Nothing has ever stopped anyone from sending a band their money if they felt the need to.

PAULYBEE2656 08.27.2008 08:14 AM

ill give coldplay 1000000 euros to stop playing music forever... can this work in the negative?

MellySingsDoom 08.27.2008 08:22 AM

I'd pay for Noel Gallagher's hands to be broken beyond repair. Then his mouth.

Same goes for Paul Weller, too.

I'd pay for Amy Winehouse to get cleaned up and sorted out head-wise.
I'd pay for Carl Barat to never write another song again.
I'd pay for the Runaways to reform (there'd be enough money to bring their drummer Sandy West back to life).
I'd pay for Bono, Michael Stipe, Annie Lennox, Bob Geldof and the rest of the rock world's earnest and worthy tossers to be dumped into a Kinshasa slum, with no return ticket.

Florya 08.27.2008 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAULYBEE2656
ill give coldplay 1000000 euros to stop playing music forever... can this work in the negative?


I doubt it.
You'll have to join with me and melly to raise funds for their asassination.:D

Derek 08.27.2008 10:41 AM

Toby Driver is actually doing a donation thing to get a new maudlin of the Well album recorded (pieces he composed but never played/recorded)

atsonicpark 08.27.2008 11:18 AM

Hah.

Serious question:
Do you think Toby has fucked Mia?

Trasher02 08.27.2008 12:36 PM

Whatever happened to just recording an album when you have enough songs to do so? I don't know this sounds pretty dumb.

GravitySlips 08.27.2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Serious question:
Do you think Toby has fucked Mia?


probably.

he's a lucky guy if he has.

atsonicpark 08.27.2008 12:46 PM

True.

Glice 08.27.2008 01:19 PM

I can see the logic - £100,000 might seem like a lot, but for a five-piece band that translates to £20,000 each. Following this, presumably the shareholders amount for up to 49% of the shares (couldn't be more or they could buy out the band) and it's unlikely the company itself would take less than 30%, leaving the band, hypothetically, with 20% of themselves. Split five ways, that means the band own only 4% of themselves.

You can see the logic if you have the potential to make money back. Presumably the bonds only apply to certain aspects of the band - the record itself and the profits thereof. So the band make their living on merchanise, tossing out a shit free EP of covers of Waterloo Sunset for the morons who subsidise them.

I think it's a wishy-washy idea, and will only work for artists that are 'investible'. Anyone remember Popex? It's basically that idea, but with real money. I can't see why it wouldn't work, but I'd be surprised if a decent enough band that weren't potentially 'big' profitable wouldn't persist down the complete control indie route so as to keep all profits to themselves.

pokkeherrie 08.27.2008 03:06 PM

Isn't this exactly the same as Sellaband?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.27.2008 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
We should get a website started where people could give $15 to a band and they would play the song you want them to play.

Or even another website where people could give $20 to a band and they would THE RECORD YOU WANT. Howcoolisthat.


Sounds like that Pete and Pete episode where little Pete's band starts broadcasting requests over Wart radio for 5 dollars a song so they can pay the electric bill that their constant practicing demanded.

Derek 08.30.2008 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Hah.

Serious question:
Do you think Toby has fucked Mia?

If I was in his position then I definitely would...

atsonicpark 08.30.2008 07:52 AM

Serious question # 2:
Do you think it was kinky?

Did he dowse her copper tongue with his anemone?

Cantankerous 08.30.2008 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I'd pay to have the Kaiser Chiefs and Primal Scream killed.

Who the fuck needs £100,000 to record an album? All you need is a good live room, some decent mikes, and an engineer to get that stuff down on tape. No mess, most cheap and job done.


Even more so for people who record at home. A computer with a decent processor, some good onboard gear, and again, job done.

all you need to record an album is $10 for a shit ass tape recorder

Norma J 08.31.2008 02:42 AM

I like the idea of bands that use the labels funds for recording to make a studio/rehearsal room rather than go into a studio.

Cantankerous 08.31.2008 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
I like the idea of bands that use the labels funds for recording to make a studio/rehearsal room rather than go into a studio.

the brian jonestown massacre did that, sort of
the record company fronted them the money to rent a house and build anton a studio in it
this was some years ago though, they don't live there any more.

Norma J 08.31.2008 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
the brian jonestown massacre did that, sort of
the record company fronted them the money to rent a house and build anton a studio in it
this was some years ago though, they don't live there any more.


Yeah.

The Dandy Warhols built their Odditorum too. They put all their film clips/studio money etc etc, into making their rehearsal room/studio in this old church or something, and then rehears, recorded, and shot their clips in it. Now they're not on that label anymore and they still have their odditorium.

Cantankerous 08.31.2008 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
Yeah.

The Dandy Warhols built their Odditorum too. They put all their film clips/studio money etc etc, into making their rehearsal room/studio in this old church or something, and then rehears, recorded, and shot their clips in it. Now they're not on that label anymore and they still have their odditorium.

yeah but all they did was basically build their version of the factory. the concept is great but the fact that it's them...

bjm >>>>>>> dandies

MellySingsDoom 08.31.2008 03:09 AM

Ugh, the Dandy Warhols - don't get me started on those creeps....

I recall that Royal Trux used one of their advance payments from Virgin to build their own studio, which I think Neil Haggerty now uses for his Howling Hex stuff.

The Neubauten "supporters" idea is a great one - I've bought a couple of things from them that way.

Norma J 09.01.2008 05:53 AM

I prefer the Dandies. like BJM too. just something about the Dandies I like more. probably Courtney Taylor-Taylor.


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