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amerikangod 09.09.2008 04:07 AM

Metal and noise combined. Recommend me their unholy bastard children?
 
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atsonicpark 09.09.2008 04:17 AM

Uh, hm. Noisey METAL? I guess Dazzling Killmen (jazzy noise rock that sometimes has metal parts) and Collossamite (jazzy noise metal that sometimes has rocky parts) and Breadwinner (noisey math rock with LOTS of metal riffs) could be up your alley. Today is the Day and Zeni Geva are extremely noisey but have very "metal" riffs at times too... Also, try Strapping Young Lad, who are ridiculously fast and noisey and... metal.

Perhaps some of the stuff Fantomas does could be considered as such, even though they suck. A lot of Godflesh stuff could be considered noise metal, I guess.

Of course, lots of metal bands -- Neurosis, Dillinger Escape Plan, etc. -- have lots of really noisey parts.

I dunno.

Death & the Maiden 09.09.2008 04:24 AM

Black metal?
Darkthrone, Emperor

Albums:
Boris - Pink

I don't know if this is what you're after, this is just some metal I listen to.

nicfit 09.09.2008 04:26 AM

rolo tomassi :D

atsonicpark 09.09.2008 04:35 AM

Ah, speaking of black metal, the ULTIMATE black metal album... weakling - dead as dreams.

20 minute songs (yes, full length songs, with millions of parts, the most epic shit ever -- not just endless solos or guitars droning, this is a completely ridiculously-structured riff-fest), completely ridiculous noisey production where you can barely hear the drums over the noisey guitars and screeches, fast as fuck for almost the whole thing.

atsonicpark 09.09.2008 04:35 AM

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/1418184

enjoy.

nicfit 09.09.2008 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
nicfit, who is the guy in your avatar?

Dieter!

nicfit 09.09.2008 05:08 AM

pmed.

blunderbuss 09.09.2008 05:11 AM

That'll be High Rise you're looking for.

Tokolosh 09.09.2008 05:11 AM

Genghis Tron - Dead Mountain Mouth?
Don't bother with Board Up the House.

atsonicpark 09.09.2008 05:15 AM

The problem with this thread is that most "real" (as in, not "nu") metal is already noisey.

Actually, for a mainstream nu-metal band, SLIPKNOT is noisey as fuck.

PAULYBEE2656 09.09.2008 07:37 AM

lightning bolt... fuck it.. they are great enough to transcend any genre pigeon hole!

Everyneurotic 09.09.2008 01:04 PM

wold: straight up noise + black metal.

khanate maybe, the goslings can get very harsh; both are doomy.

monosodic, perhaps? early anal cunt, fear of god, gore beyond necropsy (even have an album with merzbow), anal massaker, that vibe = noisy, sloppy grindcore.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2008 01:22 PM

neurosis has some fine albums!

Everyneurotic 09.09.2008 01:22 PM

another bm band that's quite noisy: dead reptile shrine, someone posted an album or two in the rare album thread, hopefully it's still active (warning: nsbm).

also, if you haven't, then eyehategod, crowbar, kilslug, upsidedown cross, kylesa, buzzov*en, weedeater, etc. all the sludge shit is quite noisy, tons of feedback in between chords and off key vocals.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2008 01:23 PM

the first unsane


oh how i love theeee

batreleaser 09.09.2008 02:15 PM

oh man, here we go:noise metal:zeni gevasome early swans i think could qualifyand therefore, so does sword heaven (sounds way to much like swans to me)today is the dayunsanedeathpile (the band that did 'noise not music')man is the bastardhatewavenoise grind:fear of god (to this day one of the most extreme bands ive ever heard, dave phillips is criminally underrated, this band was easily the first band to really make a stab at combining the grindcore that was being done AT THE SAME TIME as him by the likes of napalm death and hellhammer, as well as the noise/power electronics that was going on in japan and england, and phillips was doin this in the 80s, and hes still making great and EXTREME music today, musique concrete/HARRRSSSHHHH noise/atmospheric power electronics solo under his own name, and spazzed out noise concrete with tom smith under the name Ohne, check out everything)two dead sluts:one good fuckburmese (theyvew always to me sounded like the direct result of a brutal truth/whitehouse collab)7000 dying rats (comedy noise grind)extreme noise terrorgnaw thier tongues (an epiphanic vomiting of blood is one of the heaviest things ive heard this year)black metal bands who use noise:burzummayhem (check live in leipzig, total lo fi black noise metal)early darkthronethe second beherit record (the best and most interesting black metal album ever made in my opinion)wolves in the throne roomstriborg (i remember the first time i heard him, my friend had a tape of his and he put it on and i coulda sworn it was NOISE)doom/drone/sludge metal bands that use noise:sunn o)))khanateburning witchearlier borisearly earthneurosiseyehategod (ok, really pusing it there, but whenever i talk metal i must include them)the melvins stuff on amphetamine reptilecan i include dark ambient? it certainly relates to noise, and has the evilness of black metal (but in a non goofy, we ARE evil sorta way, so fuck it, these bands rule):lustmordvivenzablue sabbath blacl cheermoevotcrash worshipautopsiashinjuku thiefmetgumbnerbonei would even consider blue cheer's 'vincebus eruptum' to be a sorta noise metal. its actually noise hard blues music, which influenced metal, and then probably sorta influenced noise rock. either way it rules. and lester bands included it in his 'terrible noise' list, but by terrible he meant rad.

batreleaser 09.09.2008 02:16 PM

that was supposed to be in list form, my computer sucks

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 09.09.2008 02:16 PM

What abouts bands like Daughters?
Pretty chaotic metal stuff.
Lou Reed's "METAL Machine Music", not really metal in any sense but it has guitars.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 09.09.2008 02:19 PM

Also Wolves in the Throneroom.
Pretty epic in my eyes, could be considered noisey out of sheer volume and energy.

Glice 09.09.2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
rolo tomassi :D


I was dead impressed with them when I saw them this year. They did that thing of seeming shit for their first few songs and then suddenly being amazing. Well done them.

My first thought for this thread was Xinlisupreme, but it's an area of music I'm shit on, so ignore me.

Everyneurotic 09.09.2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
oh man, here we go:noise metal:zeni gevasome early swans i think could qualifyand therefore, so does sword heaven (sounds way to much like swans to me)today is the dayunsanedeathpile (the band that did 'noise not music')man is the bastardhatewavenoise grind:fear of god (to this day one of the most extreme bands ive ever heard, dave phillips is criminally underrated, this band was easily the first band to really make a stab at combining the grindcore that was being done AT THE SAME TIME as him by the likes of napalm death and hellhammer, as well as the noise/power electronics that was going on in japan and england, and phillips was doin this in the 80s, and hes still making great and EXTREME music today, musique concrete/HARRRSSSHHHH noise/atmospheric power electronics solo under his own name, and spazzed out noise concrete with tom smith under the name Ohne, check out everything)two dead sluts:one good fuckburmese (theyvew always to me sounded like the direct result of a brutal truth/whitehouse collab)7000 dying rats (comedy noise grind)extreme noise terrorgnaw thier tongues (an epiphanic vomiting of blood is one of the heaviest things ive heard this year)black metal bands who use noise:burzummayhem (check live in leipzig, total lo fi black noise metal)early darkthronethe second beherit record (the best and most interesting black metal album ever made in my opinion)wolves in the throne roomstriborg (i remember the first time i heard him, my friend had a tape of his and he put it on and i coulda sworn it was NOISE)doom/drone/sludge metal bands that use noise:sunn o)))khanateburning witchearlier borisearly earthneurosiseyehategod (ok, really pusing it there, but whenever i talk metal i must include them)the melvins stuff on amphetamine reptilecan i include dark ambient? it certainly relates to noise, and has the evilness of black metal (but in a non goofy, we ARE evil sorta way, so fuck it, these bands rule):lustmordvivenzablue sabbath blacl cheermoevotcrash worshipautopsiashinjuku thiefmetgumbnerbonei would even consider blue cheer's 'vincebus eruptum' to be a sorta noise metal. its actually noise hard blues music, which influenced metal, and then probably sorta influenced noise rock. either way it rules. and lester bands included it in his 'terrible noise' list, but by terrible he meant rad.


i can't believe i could understand the bulk of it on first reading.

someone give me a gold star.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham
Lou Reed's "METAL Machine Music", not really metal in any sense but it has guitars.


reminds me: jazkamer - metal music machine. don't ask questions, go look for it and play it.

Everyneurotic 09.09.2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by amerikangod
...

Everyneurotic, I've only heard 'Stratification' by Wold. Do you have any other recommendations? I'm looking for the Dead Reptile Shrine link. I've yet to find any sludge that I thoroughly liked, but I like the idea of it so I plan to keep trying until I find some. Out of all of the sludge I've heard, I've always desired it to be even lower, even deeper. I want it to rattle and shake the ground.


wold have another earlier album called screeching owl.

out of the list of sludge bands i gave you, kilslug and upsidedown cross are by far the ugliest and noisiest.

if you want slower and lower sludge try modern doom shit: khanate, monarch, orthodox (spanish band with crazy drum parts and vibrato abusing vocals, slow as snails though), corrupted, moss, the goslings, nadja; and, of course, sleep and their masterpiece dopesmoker a.k.a. jerusalem.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2008 02:42 PM

oh man, here we go

:noise metal:
zeni geva
some early swans i think could qualify
and therefore, so does sword heaven (sounds way to much like swans to me)
today is the day
unsane
deathpile (the band that did 'noise not music')
man is the bastard
hatewave

noise grind:
fear of god (to this day one of the most extreme bands ive ever heard, dave phillips is criminally underrated, this band was easily the first band to really make a stab at combining the grindcore that was being done AT THE SAME TIME as him by the likes of napalm death and hellhammer, as well as the noise/power electronics that was going on in japan and england, and phillips was doin this in the 80s, and hes still making great and EXTREME music today, musique concrete/HARRRSSSHHHH noise/atmospheric power electronics solo under his own name, and spazzed out noise concrete with tom smith under the name Ohne, check out everything)
two dead sluts
:one good fuck
burmese (theyvew always to me sounded like the direct result of a brutal truth/whitehouse collab)
7000 dying rats (comedy noise grind)
extreme noise terror
gnaw thier tongues (an epiphanic vomiting of blood is one of the heaviest things ive heard this year)

black metal bands who use noise:
burzum
mayhem (check live in leipzig, total lo fi black noise metal)
early darkthrone
the second beherit record (the best and most interesting black metal album ever made in my opinion)
wolves in the throne room
striborg (i remember the first time i heard him, my friend had a tape of his and he put it on and i coulda sworn it was NOISE)

doom/drone/sludge metal bands that use noise:
sunn o)))
khanate
burning witch
earlier boris
early earth
neurosis
eyehategod (ok, really pusing it there, but whenever i talk metal i must include them)
the melvins stuff on amphetamine reptile

can i include dark ambient? it certainly relates to noise, and has the evilness of black metal (but in a non goofy, we ARE evil sorta way, so fuck it, these bands rule):
lustmord
vivenza
blue sabbath
blacl cheer
moevot
crash worship
autopsi
shinjuku thiefmetgumbnerbonei would even consider blue cheer's 'vincebus eruptum' to be a sorta noise metal. its actually noise hard blues music, which influenced metal, and then probably sorta influenced noise rock. either way it rules. and lester bands included it in his 'terrible noise' list, but by terrible he meant rad.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2008 02:42 PM

I fixed it for the board dude.

Decayed Rhapsody 09.09.2008 02:43 PM

Wasn't "Cross The Breeze" inspired by Kim listening to Slayer?

MellySingsDoom 09.09.2008 02:45 PM

Great list there, Rob. I would also add Fall Of Because (Justin Broadrick's pre-Godflesh and pre-Napalm Death band). the "Life Is Easy" Cd contains tunes that are a mash up of prime Swans and Whitehouse.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 09.09.2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

reminds me: jazkamer - metal music machine. don't ask questions, go look for it and play it.


Oh, man, totally forgot that one.
I know theres a lot more, I'm just drawing a blank.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2008 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Great list there, Rob. I would also add Fall Of Because (Justin Broadrick's pre-Godflesh and pre-Napalm Death band). the "Life Is Easy" Cd contains tunes that are a mash up of prime Swans and Whitehouse.


not my list, just fixing a list previously posted all jumbled.

batreleaser 09.09.2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i can't believe i could understand the bulk of it on first reading.

someone give me a gold star.



reminds me: jazkamer - metal music machine. don't ask questions, go look for it and play it.


i love jazkamer, metal music machine def aint their best though. 'pulse', 'rolex', those are probably my favorites. with mmm and 'endless coast' right behind.

but id take lasse's solo records 'science fiction room service' and 'the shape of rock to come' over any of the kamer stuff.

batreleaser 09.09.2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I fixed it for the board dude.


its still kinda fucked up, but vastly improved. thanks.

Everyneurotic 09.09.2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
i love jazkamer, metal music machine def aint their best though. 'pulse', 'rolex', those are probably my favorites. with mmm and 'endless coast' right behind.

but id take lasse's solo records 'science fiction room service' and 'the shape of rock to come' over any of the kamer stuff.


considering the dude in this thread asked for noisy metal, i think my suggestion is pretty spot on.

and while yeah, there's other awesome jazkamer/jazzkammer releases (not to mention worthy shit by lasse solo, testicle hazard, origami replika, etc.), i still think mmm is pretty awesome.

atsonicpark 09.09.2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
dead reptile shrine.


There's some dude I work with who is into Nine Inch Nails, Ministry, Marilyn Manson, etc.

And he asked me the other day if I'd ever heard of Dead Reptile Shrine. I was like, "Uh... yeah..." I thought it was weird.

I went to his house and sure enough he had one of their albums he just randomly got off of soulseek. I played him some similiar stuff that he kinda dug, but yeah, he really loves that Dead Reptile Shrine stuff. That was pretty weird.

atsonicpark 09.09.2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by amerikangod
God damn atsonicpark, this Weakling album is fucking awesome.

I'm sitting here listening to it, and I'm enjoying it so much it's given me a boner. Granted, it's not one of those boners that makes you marvel at youth and take pride in your own body, but it's definitely one that if presented to a receptive woman, she would thoroughly appreciate.


Glad you like, it's my favorite black metal album.

Everyneurotic 09.09.2008 08:33 PM

cheers adam!

Dead-Air 09.09.2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amerikangod
Imagine Sonic Youth making a true metal album (and not just briefly toying with the concept), and I guess that would be more in line with what I intended to get across.


With that in mind, the first two Earth albums, the pre-Houdini Melvins records, and honestly, Bleach by Nirvana fit the bill best. So would a few Helios Creed and Skin Yard albums. But then, I think of Sonic Youth as more post-punk than noise, and if you mix that with metal you do get grunge (as it was before Pearl Jam made the term bring yarling badness to mind).

For a great band along those lines with a bit of less cheesy goth thrown in check out Waldteufel!

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 09.09.2008 09:03 PM

Don't forget Bad Moto Finger.

Everyneurotic 09.09.2008 11:58 PM

i feel like an idiot for forgetting and won't go to bed before posting this.

SKULLFLOWER are obviously one of the bands you are looking for.

atsonicpark 09.10.2008 12:39 AM

Yep. Duh at me as well for not mentioning them.

atsonicpark 09.11.2008 12:13 AM

haha oh yeah. Totally forgot UPSIDE DOWN CROSS. That band's ridiculous. I have a tape of theirs.


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