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batreleaser 09.16.2008 07:45 PM

matador?
 
fuck, if there was ever a label i didnt like. i was thinking maybe they were gonna sign to troubleman unlimited, which is a fairly big indie label, and one that puts out wierd noise/no wave stuff like the luttenbachers, and wolf eyes and hair police and stuff, as well as more conventional indie rock. considering sonic youth as a general rule has always been right inbetween those genres, it woulda been a perfect match. it wuda been REALLY rad if they went way off the deep end and signed to skin graft or savage land or something and started making nihilist noise punk again. either way, its better than geffen. cant bitch too much.

GrungeMonkey 09.17.2008 04:44 PM

matador suits the current sound and popularity of the band pretty well i'd say.

stop moaning.
;)

uhler 09.17.2008 04:48 PM

yeah the band is too big for troubleman. i knew it was either going to be matador or sub pop.

mysonichaircut 09.17.2008 05:02 PM

i thought after starbucks they would go to hershey's chocolate.

Everyneurotic 09.17.2008 05:18 PM

troubleman unlimited is one of the shittiest labels ever.

not their roster, but their business practice. dude will be lucky if he doesn't end in jail.

gmku 09.17.2008 06:03 PM

Sub Pop would have been cool though.

ZEROpumpkins 09.17.2008 08:24 PM

Whoah, Matador has like 5 of my favourite bands on it? They're my favourite label that isn't Warp.

batreleaser 09.17.2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
troubleman unlimited is one of the shittiest labels ever.

not their roster, but their business practice. dude will be lucky if he doesn't end in jail.


that doesnt mean shit to me.

i know im bitching about something really random and lame. i just think itd be rad if sonic youth went waaaay underground again. i mean, thurston and crew hang around with people that are way younger and make way more extreme music, and its pretty clear from the side projects and solo lps, noise is what their digging on right now. but i guess thats what divides sonic youth from thier other projects, sonic youth is a rock band first and foremost, which i guess i woulndt want any different. ill shut up now.


side note about labels? is bulb still around? i think i missed a memo because they were putting out a wealth of great records in late 90s, early 00's, now, nothing.

Everyneurotic 09.17.2008 08:39 PM

doesn't mean shit to you? remember that when you don't get your orders or money back, or when they don't send the records to the stores and all you get in return is insults.

think about it, most bands on troubleman are jumping ship for a reason.

uhler 09.17.2008 10:48 PM

i never really liked troubleman anyway. i actually forgot that the label existed until this thread, but i only pay attention to havoc records anymore.

Cantankerous 09.17.2008 10:50 PM

they should have gone to Sympathy. i think their status has outgrown sftri's though.

atsonicpark 09.18.2008 01:42 AM

A label's just a label.

I don't really like most bands on Matador to be honest.

It could be worse, they could've signed to saddle creek.

_slavo_ 09.18.2008 03:19 AM

What's the deal? I doesn't really matter what label they put it out on, as long as it's got good distribution.

HECKLER SPRAY 09.18.2008 03:27 AM

Maybe batreleaser doesn't like Matador's logo. He 'd prefer a big skull on the next Sonic Youth record, it would look much indie-noisy death metal.

atsonicpark 09.18.2008 04:19 AM

I think Matador is a very "safe" label releasing mostly crappy bands, but hey Sonic Youth's last album was really safe and crappy. So, it makes sense.

_slavo_ 09.18.2008 04:32 AM

I don't have a single problem with Matador.

atsonicpark 09.18.2008 04:34 AM

Me either. A label's just a label like I said. But I'm being uh.. topical, I guess. Hah.

pbradley 09.18.2008 04:38 AM

Eh, I like Yo La Tengo but that's about it from their roster.

mil_pl 09.18.2008 05:15 AM

they should sign with... they should... no they should go to this label!

but who the fuck cares ?

just realese good album sy . !

Pookie 09.18.2008 05:17 AM

Are Sub Pop still going?

Come to think of it, are SFRTI still going?

Blimey.

Pookie 09.18.2008 05:18 AM

I don't really know much about Matador. Was Liz Phair's first album on Matador? I like that.

HECKLER SPRAY 09.18.2008 05:21 AM

There're Times New Viking, Cat Power, (Pavement), Mission of Burma, Yo la Tengo...

http://www.matadorrecords.com/bands/index.html

repeater 09.18.2008 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Are Sub Pop still going?

Come to think of it, are SFRTI still going?

Blimey.


yes
and yes if by SFRTI you mean SFTRI

oh baby, they should have gone with SFTRI, and have mark Ryden or one of the other of long gone johns cool artbuddies do the cover

atsonicpark 09.18.2008 05:41 AM

sub pop went bankrupt after the wolf eyes/postal service tour fell through.

ZEROpumpkins 09.18.2008 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
There're Times New Viking, Cat Power, (Pavement), Mission of Burma, Yo la Tengo...

http://www.matadorrecords.com/bands/index.html

Unwound, Boards of Canada, Chavez, Superchunk, Mogwai, Guided by Voices, Smog & Unsane were also on Matador at one stage or another.

Dead-Air 09.18.2008 05:55 AM

Sub Pop just had a huge 25th Anniversary festival in Seattle (Redmond more properly at Marymoor Park) which included a Green River reunion (the videos are all over you tube, and they're pretty decent even, all of the guitarists played from both versions of the band, so they were pretty massive). They hung a huge Sub Pop banner on the Space Needle, which must have cost some real money.

That said, yeah, Sub Pop hasn't done anything new worth noticing in many years. I really like Wolf Eyes Human Animal album, and I'm not in love with the group by any stretch. And they resigned Mudhoney when Reprise dumped them, which has led to somewhat less mediocre albums from what I've heard, but I'm not exactly excited.

Matador has put out more good recent albums than Sub Pop by far, even if it's mostly by stalwarts such as Yo La Tengo and Mission of Burma. Sonic Youth should fit in perfectly with the likes of them, and I'm serious about crossing my fingers for a SY/Burma tour!

Dead-Air 09.18.2008 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Unwound, Boards of Canada, Chavez, Superchunk, Mogwai, Guided by Voices, Smog & Unsane were also on Matador at one stage or another.


and Matmos too. Unwound were never exactly on Matador though I think they did some licensing, all of their actual albums came out on Kill Rock Stars. Vern's other band Long Hind Legs had a deal with Matador, but when they heard the record and it was instrumental electronica they refused to put it out (I know this from Verne directly) so somewhere there's a very interesting LHL album waiting to see the light of day.

Death & the Maiden 09.18.2008 06:09 AM

They're not a label I have any particular interest in. They've had some good bands on it - Bailterspace, Graeme Downes (The Verlaines), The Clean, Chris Knox, David Kilgour, JPS Experience.

Death & the Maiden 09.18.2008 06:10 AM

From that list I just posted, I'm guessing they were a Flying Nun distributor in America or something.

greedrex 09.18.2008 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
and Matmos too. Unwound were never exactly on Matador though I think they did some licensing, all of their actual albums came out on Kill Rock Stars. Verne's other band Long Hind Legs had a deal with Matador, but when they heard the record and it was instrumental electronica they refused to put it out (I know this from Verne directly) so somewhere there's a very interesting LHL album waiting to see the light of day.


hey seeing you seem to know Unwound people, i'd be really curious to know what they're up to now. Are they planning anything solo at all? Have they completely retired and now work at Burker King or what? They were such a fucking great band. Raw and edgy. wow.

ZEROpumpkins 09.18.2008 06:45 AM

Prediction: Unwound reform.

greedrex 09.18.2008 06:48 AM

^^^that would be awesome.

radarmaker 09.18.2008 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Sub Pop just had a huge 25th Anniversary festival in Seattle


20th anniversary. Even though Sup Pop 100 was 1986.

wilffiv 09.18.2008 08:22 AM

i didn't like alot of bands on DGC.... guns and roses, anyone?

why does it matter that you don't like bands on the label.. you like sonic youth so thats all that should matter

atsonicpark 09.18.2008 08:24 AM

Guns N Roses are amazing.

atsonicpark 09.18.2008 08:25 AM

sonic youth/aerosmith split
 

al shabbray 09.18.2008 08:28 AM

skam
would be great. love it and it sounds just badass

Kosako 09.18.2008 08:47 AM

I don't fuckin' care with whom they sign, all I want is a Sonic Youth record per year.

scott v 09.18.2008 09:43 AM

Troubleman doesn't have the distribution or the ability to promote to the way the band should be at this point, and Matador does... that simple.

I thought Drag City would've been a cool label for them to be on.

Everyneurotic 09.18.2008 09:57 PM

gawd, again?

matador = shitloads of good bands, shitloads of bad bands, more bad bands now than before but it's not them who are going to play the instruments or tell them "you know? you should sound like yo la tengo, get thurston and kim to harmonize on a track...ohh and maybe do an instrumental with a saucy title; man, you have too much energy on these songs, we were thinking you could maybe give it a little pavement attitude, that would be great".

i hate label hatred and label worship, it's just morons who make money off bands.

i wish they could have gone with kiddieriot...


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