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evollove 02.20.2009 05:06 AM

If someone you haven't spoken to in 6,7 years
 
calls to inform you they are getting married and they'd love for you to come, is it just a ploy to get a gift? An unvitation, a la Seinfeldese?

Isn't an absence of 6, 7 years pretty much the cutoff point between "it's a shame we're not as close as we used to be" and "not in my life?"

Further, the wedding's a twenty hour drive. No shit.

I'm sort of stuck as how to respond. The socially graceful thing is to say, on the phone, unofficially, "Yeah," then decline when the proper invitation arrives in the mail. The wedding's all the way in November, which leaves plenty of time for me to think of an excuse.

The less proper yet more honest thing would be to say "No" right off the bat, and explain that if I any interest in seeing him and celebrating life's little adventures with him, it would've happened already.

Yes, we used to be friends, but isn't "used" to the operative word?

Youth_Against_Facism 02.20.2009 05:10 AM

Tell her/him to go fuck themselves and buy there own gift because you'd rather keep the money. ;)

phoenix 02.20.2009 05:30 AM

Did you ever date and it ended badly? Is it a "just so you know... " kind of invite?

Perhaps they have little to no friends and really would like you to come.

Perhaps they have too many friends and wish to give all of their other friends the impression they have.. way too many friends, because they're fabulous, of course.


I'd just say no if you don't want to go. Surely its no more rude than inviting someone to an intimate event when you haven't spoken to them in so many years?

blunderbuss 02.20.2009 05:45 AM

My thought would be that the wedding is an opportunity to reconnect with someone who you've lost contact with for some time. It can cost a lot of money to have someone as a guest at a wedding (those meals don't come cheap!), no-one's gonna make an invite unless they really want the invitee to be there.

MellySingsDoom 02.20.2009 05:55 AM

I think the key thing here for you is, do you feel a strong sense of friendship towards your friend? If you do, then I would agree w/blunderbuss and go ahead and re-connect.

This Is Not Here 02.20.2009 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blunderbuss
My thought would be that the wedding is an opportunity to reconnect with someone who you've lost contact with for some time. It can cost a lot of money to have someone as a guest at a wedding (those meals don't come cheap!), no-one's gonna make an invite unless they really want the invitee to be there.


You're hardly going to spark up a freindship again at his wedding, weddings are hectic, they're like the only time in your life when EVERYONE you know is in the same room, he's hardly going to have time to sit down for a few hours and talk about the old times...

blunderbuss 02.20.2009 06:10 AM

^
Really? I've never been to a wedding, so I wouldn't know.

This Is Not Here 02.20.2009 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blunderbuss
^
I've never been to a wedding


Lucky, lucky man.

evollove 02.20.2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blunderbuss
My thought would be that the wedding is an opportunity to reconnect with someone who you've lost contact with for some time. It can cost a lot of money to have someone as a guest at a wedding (those meals don't come cheap!), no-one's gonna make an invite unless they really want the invitee to be there.


Good point. Unless the dude figured I wouldn't make the trip, yet still be obliged to send a present. (Frankly, I don't see a way out of sending a present.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I think the key thing here for you is, do you feel a strong sense of friendship towards your friend? If you do, then I would agree w/blunderbuss and go ahead and re-connect.


Good point, too. Yet I haven't been difficult to track down, and neither was he. In fact, he had no trouble finding me to tell me about the wedding. I guess I don't feel a strong sense of friendship. If I had, we'd have been communicating with each other all these years, right?

Fuck it. I'm gonna send a $20 gift certificate to Outback Steakhouse and call it a day.

This Is Not Here 02.20.2009 10:00 AM

Contact with freinds (or friends of the past) works both ways. He's probably not contacted you all these years simply because you havn't contacted him. You've both probably been sitting there thinking the other doesn't like you, when actually you'd both be well up for drinking, merriment and a catch-up. Thats how this is stuff works, in my experience anyway...

tesla69 02.20.2009 10:06 AM

After 6 years I don't see you're even obliged to get'em a gift. Congratulate him and leave it at that. Its his wedding, not yours. Just because he called doesn't mean you owe him anything. Of course it also depends on how close you were back in the day.

blunderbuss 02.20.2009 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by This Is Not Here
Contact with freinds (or friends of the past) works both ways. He's probably not contacted you all these years simply because you havn't contacted him. You've both probably been sitting there thinking the other doesn't like you, when actually you'd both be well up for drinking, merriment and a catch-up. Thats how this is stuff works, in my experience anyway...

Plus, the life that's happening right there in front of you tends to be so all-consuming that, despite your best intentions, you forget that there is also a life beyond your immediate surroundings.

My girlfriend moans constantly about friends of hers who she has to do all the work to keep the friendships alive. I have to remind her every time that these friends have kids who take up most of their waking hours, and their "neglect" of her is probably because, once looking after the brats is done, it's quarter past midnight and all they're fit to do is sleep.

greedrex 02.20.2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
After 6 years I don't see you're even obliged to get'em a gift. Congratulate him and leave it at that. Its his wedding, not yours. Just because he called doesn't mean you owe him anything. Of course it also depends on how close you were back in the day.

^^ this.

greedrex 02.20.2009 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blunderbuss
My girlfriend moans constantly about friends of hers who she has to do all the work to keep the friendships alive.

hey wait, that's MY girlfriend.
GET
OUT
OF
MY
BRAIN.

This Is Not Here 02.20.2009 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blunderbuss
Plus, the life that's happening right there in front of you tends to be so all-consuming that, despite your best intentions, you forget that there is also a life beyond your immediate surroundings.

My girlfriend moans constantly about friends of hers who she has to do all the work to keep the friendships alive. I have to remind her every time that these friends have kids who take up most of their waking hours, and their "neglect" of her is probably because, once looking after the brats is done, it's quarter past midnight and all they're fit to do is sleep.


Amen to this.

evollove 02.20.2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor


About the phone call. How long was the conversation? Was it mostly about him or was he equally as interested in what you had been up to? When you first said hello, was it all awkward or did you fall into the same conversation as in days of old?


None of these. It was a message on voicemail! I've been too busy saying "What the fuck?" to call back.

!@#$%! 02.20.2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
None of these. It was a message on voicemail! I've been too busy saying "What the fuck?" to call back.


meh. ignore it. if you ever run into said friend and the message comes up, you say "what message? i didn't get any. you sure it was the right number?".

demonrail666 02.20.2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Youth_Against_Facism
Tell her/him to go fuck themselves and buy there own gift because you'd rather keep the money. ;)


End of thread.

hevusa 02.20.2009 12:06 PM

just say no

demonrail666 02.20.2009 12:09 PM

 

Rob Instigator 02.20.2009 12:17 PM

they just want a gift. for real.

send them an envelope with a shit-stained wad of toilet tissue and tell themn this is from when you wiped your duck butter cuz it gots righteous greasy after slam dancing at a sonic youth show in 2004.

!@#$%! 02.20.2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
duck butter



this is pure poetry

Toilet & Bowels 02.20.2009 01:17 PM

i don't know why peole are getting so bitter about this. if you want to go to the wedding then go, if you don't want to go then don't, i'm sure you know which you would rather do.

uhler 02.20.2009 01:38 PM

buy them a gift card to get their belly button pierced from a basement tattoo parlor.

Glice 02.20.2009 01:47 PM

You're a bunch of cold, materialistic cunts, you know that? It's a wedding. Weddings are when people get pissed and have a good time. No fucker's keeping count of presents.

If I was getting married I would be mortified if people I invited thought I was doing so for the presents.

I'm a little bit disgusted, in a Daily Mail way.

davenotdead 02.20.2009 01:49 PM

this is interesting... i don't know protocol about wedding invites either... i hadn't talked to this girl in over a year-and-a-half... and hadn't seen them (group of friends) in over 2 years or so... we got a nice invite by mail, but no phone call or any other contact... my brother and i were invited... we didn't go or send a gift. are we wankers?

edit--- and it was a 3 and a half hour drive to get there... plus hotel costs, etc...

Rob Instigator 02.20.2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
You're a bunch of cold, materialistic cunts, you know that? It's a wedding. Weddings are when people get pissed and have a good time. No fucker's keeping count of presents.

If I was getting married I would be mortified if people I invited thought I was doing so for the presents.

I'm a little bit disgusted, in a Daily Mail way.


unless home-slice is loaded and can afford as many guests at his weddinga nd reception as he wants, then to send wedding INVITES, as opposed to announcements, fcould be a ploy for a long-distance gift. especially since they have not talked in years.

demonrail666 02.20.2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I'm a little bit disgusted, in a Daily Mail way.


I love feeling disgusted in a Daily Mail way. It's that sense of belonging I think.

uhler 02.20.2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
You're a bunch of cold, materialistic cunts, you know that? It's a wedding. Weddings are when people get pissed and have a good time. No fucker's keeping count of presents.

If I was getting married I would be mortified if people I invited thought I was doing so for the presents.

I'm a little bit disgusted, in a Daily Mail way.


actually he's right. the last two marriages i have been to i never got them anything. the couple never cared. they were just glad that i came.

Rob Instigator 02.20.2009 02:51 PM

it all depends on who is sending the invites. there are plenty of mo-fucks out there who send as many invites as possibe, just hoping that those that cannot come will send gifts. happens all the fucking time.

joe11121 02.20.2009 10:21 PM

Hmm, well i think your (old) friend maybe just wants you to stay friends, and he/she just wants to see you again because it's been so long. Maybe they are just a douche that wants a gift, but i really doubt they are. 21 hours itone hell of a drive though... I've been 16 hours in a car straight, making only three 30 minute stops, it's still hell. So i guess it's up to you whether to go or not, just think back and ask yourself if this person is worth it.

Toilet & Bowels 02.21.2009 12:16 PM

also, it goes to show that you're still in your friend's thoughts even though you haven't spoken in all these years and that he cares about whether you are there or not on one of the most important days of his life.


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