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Youth_Against_Facism 03.05.2009 06:00 AM

Is this what America is really like?
 
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/na...osition=recent

:rolleyes:

atsonicpark 03.05.2009 06:09 AM

no.

It's way worse than that.

pbradley 03.05.2009 06:48 AM

Oh come now, it's Florida.

Sure the rest of the continental US of A isn't composed of Yeats-quoting sophisticates but fuck me if your holding fucking Florida of all places as the best and brightest of Amerikkka.

atsonicpark 03.05.2009 06:50 AM

Florida is awesome, though. The air is so nice.

pbradley 03.05.2009 06:58 AM

"Floridiot" didn't enter colloquial use by accident, though.

And you have to be a huge moron to live in a state that gets a world-ending hurricane at least once a year or two.


Also, I'm from Cali. Fuck those East Coast posers.

phoenix 03.05.2009 06:58 AM

well really, she shouldn't have taken that shit from Maccy'ds in the first place.

You ask for a replacement AND a refund. and you stand there until you get it. of course.

wellcharge 03.05.2009 07:33 AM

they tried to steal her money, she should have called the normal police line and not emergency, but still.

Oh but aint that america for you and me
Aint that america were someting to see baby
Aint that america, home of the free
Little pink houses for you and me

Johnny "Magic Fingers" 03.05.2009 08:44 AM

Mmmmm, some half-assed statistics should put this in context...

Say if 1% of any population are utter morons (And I mean 'utter morons' not to be confused with regular, run-of-the-mill morons), then going by the population of the USA (305 925 000+)*, that means there's 3 059 500 absolutely clueless morons drawing breath, so you're bound to get stories like this....

* http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html

We're lucky in Australia - with our smaller population, we only have about 200 000 utter morons. Here's an example:

 

EVOLghost 03.05.2009 09:17 AM

lol IM' gona go shower now.

tesla69 03.05.2009 11:39 AM

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.co...-realized.html

Law Professor: "We May Not Have Realized It At The Time, But In The Period From Late 2001-January 19, 2009, This Country Was A Dictatorship."

Scott Horton - a professor at Columbia Law School and writer for Harper's - says of the Bush administration memos authorizing torture, spying, indefinite detention without charge, the use of the military within the U.S. and the suspension of free speech and press rights:
We may not have realized it at the time, but in the period from late 2001-January 19, 2009, this country was a dictatorship. The constitutional rights we learned about in high school civics were suspended. That was thanks to secret memos crafted deep inside the Justice Department that effectively trashed the Constitution. What we know now is likely the least of it.
Yale law professor Jack Balkin agrees, writing that the memos promoted "reasoning which sought, in secret, to justify a theory of Presidential dictatorship." Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley says that the memos are the "very definition of tyranny". And former White House counsel John Dean says "Reading these memos, you've gotta almost conclude we had an unconstitutional dictator."
Horton is correct that "What we know now is likely the least of it." Just as with the economic crisis, we cannot change things - or even learn the full truth - unless we have the courage to ask the hard questions and to take appropriate actions to hold even the high and mighty to the rule of law.And as constitutional experts have pointed out, Obama and Congress are complicit in crimes if they cover up and fail to prosecute. For example, as Turley said:
"There is an obvious level of collusion here. We now know that Democratic leadership knew about the illegal surveillance program almost from its inception. Even when they were campaigning about fighting for civil liberties, they were aware of an unlawful surveillance program as well as a torture program. And ever since that came out, the Democrats have been silently trying to kill any effort to hold anyone accountable because that list could very well include some of their own members."

floatingslowly 03.05.2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny "Magic Fingers"
Say if 1% of any population are utter morons


lowball estimate.

davenotdead 03.05.2009 12:57 PM

well if her name's Latreasa... she's likely to be black. and black people in florida are often dumb, as I see them getting arrested all the time

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.05.2009 01:00 PM

in my town they call 911 three times because their family or friends were just shot in the street.... :(

if you are on the south-east side in a town like Paramount than they will show up soon, but if you are just up the street in North Long Beach or worse, in Watts/South Central or Cudahy/Huntington Park, well then.. you might be shit out of luck. it is a drastic problem because in Los Angeles we have all gotten way to accustomed to shooting at each other..

I wish somebody would only have to call 911 to complain about some mcnuggets at the mcdonalds rather than about their friend having just been shot in the parking lot...

this past weekend, 5 people were killed, nearly 15 were shot, all unrelated incidents..

floatingslowly 03.05.2009 01:02 PM

I've heard that there are black people in Watts that get arrested. is this true?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.05.2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I've heard that there are black people in Watts that get arrested. is this true?


actually watts is like most municipalities in incorporated Los Angeles and LA county, it is become "hispanic" (i use the term because it is not only Mexicans, but Panamanians, Nicaraguans, Salvadorians, Hondurans, Guatemalans, etc etc) in fact, upwards of 30-50% as of yet.

this is the shifting demographics of los angeles

I got to church in Vernon/South Central, and as little as ten years ago it was still predominantly a black neighborhood, now it is an immigrant neighborhood, perhaps only 15-20% black which is not much higher than the average of most cities..

the residual affect is still there, I go to an Ethiopian church which was founded there because it was then a black neighborhood, and the three churchs immediately adjacent are also black churches, though there are few black folk in the direct vicinity anymore..

uhler 03.05.2009 01:51 PM

florida's not that bad. also, the hurricanes are really not that bad at all. i lived there for twenty years and have been in only 2 bad hurricanes.

Rob Instigator 03.05.2009 01:58 PM

dumbasses everywhere, not just america.

cars_willkillyou 03.06.2009 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
"Floridiot" didn't enter colloquial use by accident, though.

And you have to be a huge moron to live in a state that gets a world-ending hurricane at least once a year or two.


Also, I'm from Cali. Fuck those East Coast posers.


with all due respect sir, go fuck yrself.

Hurricanes arent that big of a deal. Now earthquakes on the other hand...what kind of fucktards build not only multi-million dollar homes, but recording and filming studios worth billions and billions of dollars in an area that will eventually become a huge sink hole. Lets talk about the governator. Ahnald ran against a porn star and gary coleman. Lets talk about LA being the biggest cest pool of scum on the face of the planet (except maybe for London and washington DC...)

All Im saying here is that every place has negative things about it. But Californians insulting Florida is like the pot calling the kettle a nigger.

and yes, the air is very nice

so are the hundreds of natural springs that are everywhere in north and central florida. In the event of nuclear holocaust, or pollution running rampant, florida may possibly one of the best places for survival. Dont hate on my state.

floatingslowly 03.06.2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cars_willkillyou
In the event of nuclear holocaust [...] florida may possibly one of the best places for survival.


you should have said so sooner, sparky.

I'm movin' down to florida.

Rob Instigator 03.06.2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
you should have said so sooner, sparky.

I'm movin' down to florida.


make me some bacon!!!!

floatingslowly 03.06.2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
make me some bacon!!!!


I'm gonna grind me a white castle slider out of India's sacred cow.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.06.2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cars_willkillyou
with all due respect sir, go fuck yrself.

Hurricanes arent that big of a deal. Now earthquakes on the other hand...what kind of fucktards build not only multi-million dollar homes, but recording and filming studios worth billions and billions of dollars in an area that will eventually become a huge sink hole. Lets talk about the governator.


that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

lets check the stats shall we?

In my lifetime, there have been three major earthquakes in southern california which combined caused billions of dollars of damage.

in that same lifetime, there have been nearly a DOZEN terribly destructive hurricanes in the gulf states, including several which practically destroyed WHOLE cities..

I think that the current tally is

California Earthquakes 3
Gulf State Hurricanes 12

so how bad are earthquakes really?
and also, didn't you know that building codes have become so well adjusted that your homes, buildings and roadways are much much much more likely to survive an earthquake than a hurricane..

you can build against earthquakes, but a fucking storm surge is another matter entirely...

but I take it by your response that you do not live here, or maybe even have never felt an earthquake before? If you had, you would laugh out loud.. we don't even get out of bed for those things unless it is above a 6.0 and those happen less then once a decade...

I think your paranoid tirade is thus unwarranted..

Rob Instigator 03.06.2009 01:05 PM

america is the home of idiots, and of litigious losers, but it is also the home of Onion Booty
 


and Sonic Youth
 

!@#$%! 03.06.2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cars_willkillyou
Dont hate on my state.


they way you talk, it's hard not to

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.


really? you didn't catch his post dissing cats, for fucks sakes? i don't mean the shitty musical, i mean the domestic animal. that was worse than this one.

cars_willkillyou 03.06.2009 04:08 PM

i was in miami for hurricane andrew, and andrew was a stronger storm than Katrina. the only reason katrina did anything was because it hit a city that was 6 ft BELOW sea level.

florida has building codes as well. the worst thing about hurricanes these days are floods. they cause water damage to houses, and make soil loose enough for trees to fall over.

as for cats, my hatred for cats is simple. Im allergic. I dont care about any animal that can cause that much misery. Although, I dont think any animal deserves to be abused.

But seriously, how horrible could it be to be stuck inside of a bong? Other than the whole part about cats hating water, i bet the cat loved it.

Rob Instigator 03.06.2009 04:53 PM

katrina was categrory 3 storm with a ctegory 5 storm surge. the lowness of nawlins was not much factor. the shittyl;y maintained levees were.

cars_willkillyou 03.06.2009 05:57 PM

and a president that doesnt care about black people.

DeadDiscoDildo 03.06.2009 06:00 PM

I'm from Ohio and I think you're all fucking crazy.

SonikJesus 03.06.2009 06:05 PM

Don't act like America is the only place with dumbasses.

Youth_Against_Facism 03.06.2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonikJesus
Don't act like America is the only place with dumbasses.


Not. Australia has plenty as seen here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny "Magic Fingers"
We're lucky in Australia - with our smaller population, we only have about 200 000 utter morons. Here's an example:


 


SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.06.2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cars_willkillyou

florida has building codes as well. the worst thing about hurricanes these days are floods. they cause water damage to houses, and make soil loose enough for trees to fall over.


the only thing that damages your houses here in LA is your neighbors..

GeneticKiss 03.07.2009 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
america is the home of idiots, and of litigious losers, but it is also the home of Onion Booty




 


and Sonic Youth




 


Best Post Ever

pbradley 03.07.2009 01:17 AM

Thinking contemporary America is dumb = wishing it was erased from history?

pbradley 03.07.2009 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
seems most of the music you enjoy is american.....

What does this have to do with anything?

pbradley 03.07.2009 01:47 AM

I think you are taking his exaggeration/piss taking too seriously.

It sounds like:
person 1: I don't really think the Beatles are as talented at songwriting as everyone else thinks
person 2: OMFG wut u tlkin baut with/t the beatles their wud b no musik at all, ur a hipokrit cuz u like muzik

Using black/white logic to blow a little thing into absolute war. Do we really need you to come in on a white stallion to save the fair maiden America from a ribbing?

Youth_Against_Facism 03.07.2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
well, obviously america consists of a little more than dumb 911 calls. he asked if america is really like that...just, demonstrating that he should have been able to answer his own question. im sure the same thing has heppened in australia.



I know all Americans arn't that stupid and actually no we don't have people calling 911 (or 000 as it is over here) over a fast food restaurant running out of food, and yes I know that they wouldn't give her money back but really how much are 10 chicken nuggets in America. It isn't gonna be enough to call emergency services about. She could've just reported it to local police and see what they could do. Know what I mean.

Youth_Against_Facism 03.07.2009 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
I think you are taking his exaggeration/piss taking too seriously.

It sounds like:
person 1: I don't really think the Beatles are as talented at songwriting as everyone else thinks
person 2: OMFG wut u tlkin baut with/t the beatles their wud b no musik at all, ur a hipokrit cuz u like muzik

Using black/white logic to blow a little thing into absolute war. Do we really need you to come in on a white stallion to save the fair maiden America from a ribbing?


Yes, that's exactly it.

Youth_Against_Facism 03.07.2009 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
im sure its happened. to say the police in australia have never been called over something equally as petty...is just well...not true.
do you surf?


If it has it hasn't been reported on a news website like this one has. And I understand where your coming from so don't start punching the computer screen. ;) mmkay

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
do you surf?


Yes. :)

Youth_Against_Facism 03.07.2009 06:00 AM

Oh well I'm gonna go watch the cricket. :D

phoenix 03.07.2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
im sure its happened. to say the police in australia have never been called over something equally as petty...is just well...not true.


my next door neighbours called the cops at 10 30 on a friday night because I wouldnt let them go crawling under my house looking for their cat. I told them to wait until the morning.. Apart from the fact that there is no way the cat could have even gone under my house, just no. So he called the cops. wtf?! (this is the eternal bogan house.. family after family.)


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