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jon boy 03.30.2009 09:13 PM

has society become too instant?
 
we want things now and seemingly have lost patience with everything. i remember when people didnt mind if things took a while now we get annoyed if our downloads or our coffee take five seconds too long.

demonrail666 03.30.2009 09:23 PM

I suppose the answer, quite obviously, is "yes".

terminal pharmacy 03.30.2009 09:43 PM

depends where you live

atsonicpark 03.30.2009 09:46 PM

Yeah, I've talked about this on another thread. Some of the magic in life has disappeared now that everything is a click away. Of course, no one's forcing anyone to be like that. Society has become more instant... and more distant.

demonrail666 03.30.2009 10:52 PM

I suppose the problem is that while most of us can see it's downsides, we still demand it.

jon boy 03.30.2009 11:28 PM

we just seem so lazy nowadays, we dont seek things out in the same way anymore. everything can be downloaded in a sec and news is all so instant.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 03.30.2009 11:39 PM

 

pbradley 03.31.2009 12:19 AM

It isn't instant enough for most people.

It's often too instant for me.

I want to sleep in and when the day ends I wonder what all happened in that blur.

pbradley 03.31.2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
we just seem so lazy nowadays, we dont seek things out in the same way anymore. everything can be downloaded in a sec and news is all so instant.

Lazy? I don't understand how faster is lazier or even how easier is necessarily lazier. In fact, the speed if instantaneous everything makes people the opposite of lazy to the point that they don't take in everything in between. I get my fast coffee with my fast news while I take my fast car to my fast work and then take a fast lunch etc.

pbradley 03.31.2009 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
i remember when people didnt mind if things took a while

I doubt this. Perhaps "a while" in our terms but certainly not "a while" in their time. It's not like impatience was invented yesterday.

deflinus 03.31.2009 12:36 AM

i think the fact that the simpsons suck now has a lot to do with it...

not really, but i just wanted to say that the simpsons suck now. anyone catch the new intro? fucking terrible

DeadDiscoDildo 03.31.2009 12:50 AM

^^sorry, the simpsons lost it's spark with me years ago.

atsonicpark 03.31.2009 12:55 AM

amen. new simpsons intro.. ugh.

jon boy 03.31.2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
Lazy? I don't understand how faster is lazier or even how easier is necessarily lazier. In fact, the speed if instantaneous everything makes people the opposite of lazy to the point that they don't take in everything in between. I get my fast coffee with my fast news while I take my fast car to my fast work and then take a fast lunch etc.


lazy as in we dont have to try anymore. sitting infront of screens and not finding anything out for ourselves etc.

jon boy 03.31.2009 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
I doubt this. Perhaps "a while" in our terms but certainly not "a while" in their time. It's not like impatience was invented yesterday.


but with everything happening so fast if we dont get it now now now then we become un interested and bored and why is this taking so fast. get it?

pbradley 03.31.2009 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
but with everything happening so fast if we dont get it now now now then we become un interested and bored and why is this taking so fast. get it?

No.

Ten years ago, a lady would still complain if the drive-thru took ten minutes longer than she expected.

People delayed at airports still became hostile.

Some asshole would still passive aggressively tailgate a car on a highway.

Patience is relative but always in short supply.

pbradley 03.31.2009 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
lazy as in we dont have to try anymore. sitting infront of screens and not finding anything out for ourselves etc.

You did your own reporting "back in the day"?

sarramkrop 03.31.2009 02:22 AM

Any society that only offers self-criticism and vagueness as a mean of resistance is just as bad as one that doesn't. Weak, irrelevant, annoying protest is even worse than downloads.

sarramkrop 03.31.2009 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Yeah, I've talked about this on another thread. Some of the magic in life has disappeared now that everything is a click away. Of course, no one's forcing anyone to be like that. Society has become more instant... and more distant.


Magic hasn't disappeared from society altogether, there isn't any in most people. Nothing new.

atsonicpark 03.31.2009 03:10 AM

Porn's not downloading fast enough for me.

Green_mind 03.31.2009 06:28 AM

What did people use to chase?

nicfit 03.31.2009 06:28 AM

foxes?

Green_mind 03.31.2009 06:30 AM

ah that's right, it's political correctness gone mad!

afterthefact 03.31.2009 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloevera_biopillow2000
everthing is getting soo childish
peopels forget what it is to do really cool things
i think that's why i'm always alone
always going for new things as a artist to open peopels minds
i don't ask or expect from anyone to be understand
but i like honesty
old is old and bored is bored
and it's for the next generations to get out of the confusion
and refind their development
whitout losing preshis time in ugly side roads


People have substituted actual cool and fun things with boring and mundane things, and then can't figure out why they are always bored. They can't understand why every video game gets old, but they keep going out and buying them in hopes to fix this, instead of going rock climbing or hiking or something that is always fun to do.

But this is off topic of things being to instant. In a more related note:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news...aking_too_long

Alex's Trip 03.31.2009 08:27 AM

I'm not going to pretend to dislike the speed of today's society. It is the result of a changing society. Neither good nor bad. Things happen more rapidly, and perhaps society's impatience has grown with it, but might this not further encourage the research and development of technology that got us here in the first place?

We're at the end of the first decade of a new millennium people! Don't be stuck in the past for some indie-cred or nostalgia!

floatingslowly 03.31.2009 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
now we get annoyed if our downloads or our coffee take five seconds too long.


I do not have bandwidth issues, but I'll tell you, if my coffee is ready BEFORE I arrive, heads will roll.

demonrail666 03.31.2009 10:06 AM

I found myself doing the whole deliberately audible sigh routine in the supermarket this morning, while waiting to pay for my stuff. It was ridiculous. The guy in front asked a couple of perfectly reasonable questions to the girl on the till and I was ready to rain blows down on his head with my triple-can pack of drainless tuna chunks. And to think, I haven't had a properly busy day since around 1986.

demonrail666 03.31.2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
its been like that a while. its getting worse....


tl;dr

jon boy 03.31.2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
No.

Ten years ago, a lady would still complain if the drive-thru took ten minutes longer than she expected.

People delayed at airports still became hostile.

Some asshole would still passive aggressively tailgate a car on a highway.

Patience is relative but always in short supply.


no. must i explain everything to you?

i am talking society as a whole not specific things that have always been that way.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.31.2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloevera_biopillow2000
i don't know what it is peopels are chasing these days



 


that'll slow em down, chase the dragon instead of their tail

Death & the Maiden 03.31.2009 10:06 PM

Bender: "Let's just pray I have the energy to get myself another beer. [Presses button on remote. Beer spills onto Bender's chest] Oh, what is this, the Middle Ages?!"

Voice on TV:" Is today's hectic lifestyle making you tense and impatient?"
Bender: "SHUT UP AND GET TO THE POINT!"

joe11121 03.31.2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
amen. new simpsons intro.. ugh.


Ugh indeed.

pbradley 04.01.2009 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
no. must i explain everything to you?

i am talking society as a whole not specific things that have always been that way.

:|

Goes to show arguing with nostalgic idealism is impossible.

Kloriel 04.01.2009 12:12 AM

as of now, society has become a shit flinging eskimo woman that i'm going to drill for oil. trust me the polar bears are going to LIKE it

atsonicpark 04.01.2009 12:36 AM

longmont potion castle can't put out a new album quickly enough

atsonicpark 04.01.2009 12:59 AM

Notice the downturned mouth all these top phychics have. Is it to supress the giggle reflex when he puts one over another gumbie?

pbradley 04.01.2009 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
dude, seriously...all BS aside, YOU are one of my favorite posters. period.

you know how to be an asshole, and be intelligent at the same time. sometimes i find myself envious.

Thank you, though I obviously take influence from others both here and elsewhere. It takes a village.


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