Sister, Evol, Bad Moon Rising, Confusion is Sex reissues?
 

Will they be happening?

Sister is a no because no master tapes. Other's might be possible...maybe depending on who has/gets the rights/masters and what they want to do with them. Matador does RIs, so if they could get masters, it'd be somewhat likely they'd happen.

Well couldn't they still technically reissue Sister? They couldn't remaster it, but I'm sure there are the master stampers out there.

I suppose a reissue...but technically, everything before DDN has been reissued with bonus tracks.

The last US RI of Evol on Vinyl LP was in 1990.

Looking at how much some of these go for on ebay (especially Confusion is Sex) is making me sad. How am I ever supposed to complete my SY vinyl collection?

you mean deluxe reissue?
if so I really would like to see bad moon rising (my favorite album of all times, basically) and confusion is sex reissued. not in order to see them remastered (what would be the point in remastering cis? its production is part of what it is), but to be able to hear all the unknown gems from those eras (ala "cat in the hat", or the unknown songs on sonic death). i'm sure there's tons of them

when did geffen reissue Sister? i think the story about no mastertapes is a wind up

^^mmm never

I have heard that a few times. Maybe they could re-record the album in 2009. Put a new spin on it. Maybe a live studio thing?

Wrong, I just checked the mustang site, Geffen did a reish of Sister in 94, i.e. after EJS was released which is supposedly recorded over the Sister masters, so the question is what did Geffen use for the reissue?

You're right, the Sister master tapes probably do exist. See this thread:

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=18660

AS I HAVE PROOF

i've tried hearing sister under ejs and never got anywhere with it. also why in god's name would they need to record over the sister masters, did geffen not give the band an advance to record their next album?

reissue all on heavy vinyl!

it's there, just need good headphones and the reflexs to turn the volume back down to not shatter your ears, the clearest i heard it is the lull between winer's blues and bull in the heather where you can hear Thurston say "Schizophernia is taking me home"

i'd personally love a reissue box of everything together, digipak cds, and 180gram vinyl, that vinyl box would be quite interesting considering how many double lp (DDN, Dirty, Washing Machine, ATL, and Nurse) and the rearragned tracks there are in their later lps

There was a mid-90's Geffen pressing.


It's only the Neutral pressing of Confusion that should get that spendy - I got an SST copy from eBay for under $10 within the past year (to go alongside my Neutral, Zensor & Blast First copies :) )

As ever with eBay, it's just a case of having patience and waiting for the good deals - I've got vinyl pressings of every SY album, and haven't paid more than about £20 for any of them - that includes Neutral copies of the debut & Confusion and a numbered Walls Have Ears.
There will probably be a price spike for the next 2-3 months due to interest in the new album bringing more attention to all SY listings, but they'll settle down again in due course.

original pressing of sister?

LOL people actually believe that 'sister was recorded over' joke is true? And think you can hear sister on the album?

HA.

hope they wont remaster anything, they are all perfect as they are. a live record would be a good thing though.

you can hear sister on the album
amplify the volume in between the tracks a lot and you'll hear parts from it

Yup - one of the first SY albums I owned. Think I paid about £7.50 in 1996 :)

yes i remember people saying that back when it came out... it's bullshit people hearing hiss and filling it in with what they want to hear.

Like backwards masking

except that it's forwards and actually there.

No new info really, except i think these are actually gonna happen in the next few months!!

http://www.originalrecordingsgroup.c...RG_Catalog.htm

Unfortunately, it looks like there's no kill yr idols on this CiS reissue apparently...

I wish they hadn't decided to stick Master-Dik at the end of the Sister vinyl reissue. Even in comparison with other 'bonus' tracks, that one doesn't fit at all with the album's overall feel. At least with a CD you can programme it out but with an LP you're gonna have to leap up and remove the needle just after White Cross finishes. They ought to just reissue the Master-Dik EP as is, which I quite like largely in spite of its title track.

Rumor is additional tapes of Sister recording sessions exist, Thurston used a set ofg masters from Sister as a half witted/joke technique of getting EJST&NS to sound more lo-fi and akin to the bands they admired at that time (i.e. Sebadoh and Pavement).

I don't believe for a second that they really recorded over the master-tape of Sister, however: even if it were true, it raises the question of what was recorded over. The multi-track tape or the final stereo master? Two different tapes, y'see...

They would've had to have used 2" tape (presumably) for the tracking of Electric Jet Set..., leading one to think they would've had to have used the original Sister MULTI-TRACK tape, not the final stereo mixdown tape anyway. Which means it would be simple to remaster the album, the mixdown tape would still be untouched.

It all kinda proves that the whole thing is a long-running gag, nothing more. It doesn't add up.

PS: Even if you CAN hear it between tracks of Electric Jet Set..., and I've never tried, there are ENDLESS of ways to do that rather than recording over the previous tape...

Steve's already posted to confirm they did not record over the master tapes of Sister.

Weird that they added the bonus tracks to the vinyl (particularly the 4 on "Bad Moon"!) and while I do agree with your basic point, keep in mind that Master=Dik is built off of samples from 'Stereo Sanctity' so it at least has some thematic ties to the album. Probably belongs more on a Whitey Album reissue though.

That said, these vinyl reissues look kind of intriguing! I have all of these albums on vinyl but would certainly entertain picking up new copies if they're deemed to be outstanding pressings, and in a way the bonus tracks kiiiind of increase the appeal...though I do respect the idea of the 'original album' being preserved.

Yes. Check the ORG page to see the reissue info and release dates.

wwwdotoriginalrecordingsgroupdotcom

page 3 of catalogue releases

Yechh, Bubblegum at the end of EVOL? Guess there's no lockgroove at the end of Expressway then. These will have to either be really damn nice or really damn cheap for me.

absolutely. it just feels so out of place on Sister. As much as I'd rather the extras had been left off the BMR reissue at least they kind of flow with the original album.

lol

i think hotwire my heart fits in much less and it's part of the actual album

even if the records were not remastered, i would still love to hear deluxe reissues just for the awesome songs that were left off them. I'd definitely pay to hear them. money.

one of the few times - out of anybody's discography - where the tacked-on bonus tracks don't "disrupt the flow" is on the reissue of confusion is sex. goes really well with kill yr idols.

not that i hate bonus tracks at all, just sometimes they sound ... well ... bonus. like "bubblegum" all on its lonesome on EVOL.

Good point. Any chance these are just incorrect preliminary tracklistings?

And yeah, "Hotwire My Heart" sucks. I've grown to..eh..appreciate its spirit, but it's a real stain on an otherwise flawless album.

whoah... i found originals of all these a few months ago for $30 a piece, and was wondering if they were gonna reissue them soon. not sure if i'll buy these or not. i'm looking forward to some archival releases of vintage SY sound from cassette Lee hinted at recently...

reissue WALLS HAVE EARS!!!

also, coltrane at village vanguard should be in everybody's crate. no excuses now...

also, do they mean this winter, or like, next winter...

Outtakes or jams from those three albums would be great. I generally don't care for the extra material for many bands' reissues, but these three I am totally convinced must have produced a wealth of high quality material that didn't make it to the albums.

why they tacked on the shitty(er) B-sides on every reissue EXCEPT confusion is beyond me. I want kill yr idols on vinyl!

If the catholic block demo is any indication of what is in the vault for a sister RI, I'm extremely excited.