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Everyneurotic 03.26.2006 11:24 PM

I need to get this off...
 
i know this section has becomed something like bitch-a-plus but i think it's good for people to feel this confidence to share their stuff here with us. well, now it's my turn.

i've had a lot of crazy stuff happen to me since ending college this past december, crazy stuff, involving people who i trusted and turned out to be phonies, people who i have feelings for, she (more like "they"...i'm not sure if this could have happened to someone else with more than one person) has feelings for me but it's all about putting walls after walls and distancing from one another to doubt and shit like that. every week has been a surprise. now i have another one and this one is heavy.

my ex-girlfriend, who i broke up with something like 5 years ago in bitter and hateful terms, regained contact with me something like a year and a half ago, we started as friends and missed her as such and decided to speak to her again, we hung out for a little while then we broke contact again. last week, i spoke to her on msn and started to talk about her feeling crappy and me telling her how it felt when i found out she was cheating on me (and i mean, literally, i caught her kissing some other guy) and stuff. anyway, i told her to call me anytime if she felt bad or anything, so she called me, she was very upbeat on the phone so i thought she just wanted to catch up; but when she picked me up, she was crying, she told me about her problems and said she had never told anyone about her. she told me her sister (who i got to know when we were dating and a very good person) had a disease which might lead her to cancer and, after the first treatment, rejected anymore help; her mom is going thru hell with her, her father wants to leave home and she has some major problems with her boyfriend (the guy she cheated on me with). i felt really bad because first of all, i consider her a friend, and second of all, i can't forget the feelings i had for her, i don't love her like i did back then but i still care for her. all i did was stay there, hold her hand, hug her and be there for her, i know she's a smart girl and she will know what to do. but i still feel worried about her, and needed to tell it to someone.

flophousefloozie 03.26.2006 11:29 PM

Way to go..

I think you're doing the right thing and she will appreciate your comfort. If not today, then one day. Until then, just trust that she'll be alright and know that you're doing all that you can

krastian 03.26.2006 11:56 PM

Yeah, all you can do is be a friend....which it sounds like she appreciates.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2006 12:16 AM

thanks guys for your kind words and for reading, i don't feel so bottled up anymore.

i guess you are right, but i can't help feeling like i should do something else, i'm not sure if she knows i'm really there for her...it's not like i feel i "should" in the way that i expect to feel like a great guy and a great friend, but in should as trying to really be of help...but anyway, thanks for the posts, krastian and flophousefloozie, i appreaciate you guys!

Hip Priest 03.27.2006 03:35 AM

Sounds like you've behaved perfectly, be proud.

fishmonkey 03.27.2006 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hip Priest
Sounds like you've behaved perfectly, be proud.


Hip Priest speaks the truth, you have behaved perfectly and you should be proud, you sound like a very decent and reasonable bloke, all you can do is be a friend and you're doing just that.
Keep your chin up and be strong for her.

!@#$%! 03.27.2006 02:48 PM

yes dude be a friend but stay clear of the drama. by that i mean keep your dick on a leash and DO NOT "console" this chick trying to fuck her. i swear you need to keep a certain distance from her and in the meantime, try going out & maybe meeting someone who'll take your mind off this situation. i swear.

murphy's law of sex #14(?) - Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.

Inhuman 03.27.2006 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i know this section has becomed something like bitch-a-plus but i think it's good for people to feel this confidence to share their stuff here with us. well, now it's my turn.

i've had a lot of crazy stuff happen to me since ending college this past december, crazy stuff, involving people who i trusted and turned out to be phonies, people who i have feelings for, she (more like "they"...i'm not sure if this could have happened to someone else with more than one person) has feelings for me but it's all about putting walls after walls and distancing from one another to doubt and shit like that. every week has been a surprise. now i have another one and this one is heavy.

my ex-girlfriend, who i broke up with something like 5 years ago in bitter and hateful terms, regained contact with me something like a year and a half ago, we started as friends and missed her as such and decided to speak to her again, we hung out for a little while then we broke contact again. last week, i spoke to her on msn and started to talk about her feeling crappy and me telling her how it felt when i found out she was cheating on me (and i mean, literally, i caught her kissing some other guy) and stuff. anyway, i told her to call me anytime if she felt bad or anything, so she called me, she was very upbeat on the phone so i thought she just wanted to catch up; but when she picked me up, she was crying, she told me about her problems and said she had never told anyone about her. she told me her sister (who i got to know when we were dating and a very good person) had a disease which might lead her to cancer and, after the first treatment, rejected anymore help; her mom is going thru hell with her, her father wants to leave home and she has some major problems with her boyfriend (the guy she cheated on me with). i felt really bad because first of all, i consider her a friend, and second of all, i can't forget the feelings i had for her, i don't love her like i did back then but i still care for her. all i did was stay there, hold her hand, hug her and be there for her, i know she's a smart girl and she will know what to do. but i still feel worried about her, and needed to tell it to someone.


Well I think that you should do everything you can to help her, especially if she seeks your help, whether the boyfriend is involved or not. Cheating always hurts, but I feel that it can be something that can be forgiven. You made the right choice, well done man.

spiritbears 03.27.2006 02:59 PM

i agree with !@#$%
be very careful...you are being very kind./.....but don't let your lust get the better of you....cheaters inevitably cheat again....

Inhuman 03.27.2006 03:04 PM

Spiritbears brings up a good point as well. Cheaters generally don't change, but if you feel that you should go ahead anyway, then do so, just be very cautious about the choices you make so it doesn't happen to you again. Was there a reason she cheated on you? If no, then you'll really have to keep comprimising whether it's a right decision or not.

!@#$%! 03.27.2006 03:43 PM

^^
nonsense

...but if you feel that you should go ahead anyway, then do so, just be very cautious...

well that is kind of silly, isn't it? if he's cautious he won't go ahead. if he goes ahead he isn't being cautious. what caution is there once he's stuck in his prick?

BRO

STAY CLEAR OF LOONS

GO FIND A FRESH FACE TO INHABIT YOUR OBSESSIONS

the prophet has spoken, dammiT!! :mad:

:D

Inhuman 03.27.2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
^^
nonsense

...but if you feel that you should go ahead anyway, then do so, just be very cautious...

well that is kind of silly, isn't it? if he's cautious he won't go ahead. if he goes ahead he isn't being cautious. what caution is there once he's stuck in his prick?

BRO

STAY CLEAR OF LOONS

GO FIND A FRESH FACE TO INHABIT YOUR OBSESSIONS

the prophet has spoken, dammiT!! :mad:

:D


Stay cautious about the choices he's making while going ahead.

truncated 03.27.2006 03:57 PM

I concur with !@#$%.

First off, I tend to think leopards don't change their spots (who else groaned at that cliche?).

And not to sound like a bitch, but I'd be wary of someone who only bothers getting in touch with you when they're going through difficulties.

Finally, fucking when either one of you are vulnerable is always a bad idea. So yeah...don't.

Otherwise, you're doing the best you can do, which is be there for her. All she likely needed was a sympathetic ear, which you have been. As you know now yourself, venting can often be the most cathartic thing in times of crisis.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2006 04:04 PM

thanks guys for the kind words, i needed to tell someone (like !@#$% suggested) and started by talking with you.

i might have done something good or behaved well or whatever; but i still feel like i should do something more...i kinda felt the same protective nature i felt when we were going out and i felt a deep concern for her. i still have feelings for her because she was my girlfriend who a loved a lot, so it's difficult not to feel this. and yeah, the whole cheating and boyfriend thing got out of the way right now since this is something serious, it feels shallow and banal to think about her cheating on me and knowing who's her boyfriend and stuff. it does feel dumb to be concerned about stuff like that, not to mentioned i'm already over that for a long time now (which wasn't easy)

i think you guys have a point about this turning into a love and sex situation, she seeked for me and has apologized several times for the way she treated me and the way we broke up, she also mentioned several times that she was a changed person and that she now views people in a different way, also that she now really appreciate people more now. when she dropped me home she told me that she loved me and i told her i did too (because i will always love her since she was/is very important to me and out of sympathy too). so chances are she wants me back. she also told me she was finally breaking up with her boyfriend.

i couldn't sleep last night thinking about the situation and woke thinking what !@#$% also said, that it's not my drama and that there should be a line of involvement not to be crossed, it's true, i just hoped i came into the board earlier to read it.

i'll go as i see and try to have some distant perspective and see what's up, while still try to be as much support for her as possible.

thanks a lot for reading and for giving me some of your words. that's another reason why this is my favorite place on the internet!

Everyneurotic 03.27.2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
murphy's law of sex #14(?) - Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.


that's how i got involved with her and became my girlfriend in the first place

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
GO FIND A FRESH FACE TO INHABIT YOUR OBSESSIONS


that's the hardest thing for me right now, i haven't met new people in a little while and the one's i meet they are eithers loonies or normal but distant, which also adds to the drama

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
And not to sound like a bitch, but I'd be wary of someone who only bothers getting in touch with you when they're going through difficulties.


i know, but i know her and i can't help but feel protective of her. that's the way she is and, as much as i would feel to help someone who has treated me bad and who just seeks me when she needs something from me, i can't be mad at her or deny the help. i care too much for her, she can be very careless and crazy and might not realize what she does or say, but she's not a bad person. and in situations like these, i leave all that stuff behind. plus, we've come to terms with our differences and the circumstance which led to our break up

truncated 03.27.2006 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
give her one for the road then change your msn addy


I NEVER use this, but this deserves an LOL!

truncated 03.27.2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i know, but i know her and i can't help but feel protective of her. that's the way she is and, as much as i would feel to help someone who has treated me bad and who just seeks me when she needs something from me, i can't be mad at her or deny the help. i care too much for her, she can be very careless and crazy and might not realize what she does or say, but she's not a bad person. and in situations like these, i leave all that stuff behind. plus, we've come to terms with our differences and the circumstance which led to our break up


You truly are a good person, one who I hope does not get walked on for his troubles. Good luck, whatever you decide.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2006 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
You truly are a good person, one who I hope does not get walked on for his troubles. Good luck, whatever you decide.


believe me, i had been walked on before, that's why i'm keeping some distance

!@#$%! 03.27.2006 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i know, but i know her and i can't help but feel protective of her. that's the way she is and, as much as i would feel to help someone who has treated me bad and who just seeks me when she needs something from me, i can't be mad at her or deny the help. i care too much for her, she can be very careless and crazy and might not realize what she does or say, but she's not a bad person. and in situations like these, i leave all that stuff behind. plus, we've come to terms with our differences and the circumstance which led to our break up


see man that is your achilles heel and how she gets you. that little helpless bird fallen from the nest with a broken wing that you want to nurse to health is going to do this to you:

 

truncated 03.27.2006 04:39 PM

Haha! He's right you know. But then again, I inherently distrust most chicks.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
see man that is your achilles heel and how she gets you. that little helpless bird fallen from the nest with a broken wing that you want to nurse to health is going to do this to you:


yeah, i know.

that's why i'll keep my distance a bit and also why i won't be her boyfriend again.

truncated 03.27.2006 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
yeah, i know.

that's why i'll keep my distance a bit and also why i won't be her boyfriend again.


Bullshit. You're already caving! I think we should take bets on whether or not he nails this chick.

spiritbears 03.27.2006 05:07 PM

trunc is correct...you seem to be sliding back to her....my .02 DONT!!!!

!@#$%! 03.27.2006 05:23 PM

just print a copy of that picture & carry it in your wallet or something.

when you finally begin to understand what a sociopathic, selfish, manipulative bitch you're dealing with, you won't feel so sorry for her. but as long as you're thinking with your dick you're going to find "reasons" to "love" her.

now, in my earlier post i said "be a friend but don't fuck her". now i'm saying RUN.

why did i change my mind? additional information you've revealed in your posts. and truncy's sharp observation that you're already sliding...

if you're too tense go to a massage parlor man. but try this: every time she's crying on your shoulder & shit, think to yourself: "WHAT IS SHE TRYING TO GET ME TO DO WITH THIS?"

man, i've had my share of deals with sociopathic types. you wouldn't believe the stories. i guess the road of excess etc. etc. but my advice, yes, is now RUN. make up some excuses & disappear from her life.

Toilet & Bowels 03.27.2006 05:26 PM

what ever you do don't let her trick you into getting back with her, fair enough she's got troubles in her life but she also sounds a bit selfish and crazy. it sounds to me like you're cutting her too much slack because you have a soft spot for her. i mean what kind of chick goes to her ex for support when she's about to dump her current boyfriend?

truncated 03.27.2006 05:29 PM

 

krastian 03.27.2006 05:29 PM

HA.......good one.

Toilet & Bowels 03.27.2006 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
 


what is that, a turd? a slug?

!@#$%! 03.27.2006 05:39 PM

hah!

that's a leech

(though it could be a piece of prometheus's liver too :D)

chabib 03.27.2006 05:44 PM

i keep reading this thread title as "i need to get off."

!@#$%! 03.27.2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chabib
i keep reading this thread title as "i need to get off."

hah hah he does

that's the whole point

testicular vapors fogging the mind...

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.27.2006 05:54 PM

im gonna tell you like a nigga told me, "fuck bitches, make money"

Toilet & Bowels 03.27.2006 06:02 PM

yeah, just go to the a pro. you won't have to pretend to be nice to them either.

truncated 03.27.2006 06:29 PM

This all goes back to my profile of the modern chick - 'complex,' 'quirkily disturbed,' fiercely independent yet pitifully helpless, artfully distant -

BULLSHIT.

Toilet & Bowels is right. If she's gonna put you through all that before she even puts out, then you're better off hiring a professional, with no baggage.

And YOU, young man -

To dole out sympathy to her, when she's crying on your shoulder over the guy she CHEATED on you with?

No offense, but have some self-respect, and kick that two-timing ho to the curb. You don't even know where she's BEEN.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2006 06:39 PM

hahahahahaha

you guys have made me laugh this thing off!!!!!

whilei really am not the kind to leave someone merciless in a moment of despair (i know i know...), i'm going to keep a big distance from this shit. it's not my problem, i care for her but she cares too little for me so it's not fair.

part of the thing is that right now i have some major problems with girls and friends and this came at a time when i'm kinda shook up by things...so thanks for the perspective.

!@#$%! 03.27.2006 07:43 PM

hey man, happy to help, though my jokes weren't the best ones.

now save your pesos & go get a good "massage". i swear it will clear your head. :D

Toilet & Bowels 03.27.2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
This all goes back to my profile of the modern chick - 'complex,' 'quirkily disturbed,' fiercely independent yet pitifully helpless, artfully distant -


woah. that sums up so many girls i know.

jon boy 03.28.2006 02:04 PM

yeah that goes for me as well.

floatingslowly 04.25.2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
Haha! He's right you know. But then again, I inherently distrust most chicks.

woman-hater.


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