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TheFoxBen 08.21.2009 07:36 AM

Pitchfork: The top 500 tracks of the decade
 
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-...2000s-500-201/

I don't know if you people like Pitchfork, I personally hate this website (the ratings are completely random, based on only one member of the staff, their reviews are pretentious, 0.0 for NYC Ghosts & Flowers, and more reasons to hate them...) and I only go there for the news but I always thought their lists were kinda interesting, except this one: The top 500 tracks of the decade, I was like "wtf?" at many times.

48. Panda Bear
"Bro's"

25. Rihanna [ft. Jay-Z]
"Umbrella"

I mean, come on ! This can't be serious.

So, let's discuss about it.

Satan 08.21.2009 07:38 AM

who would ever take pitchfork seriously?

500. The Big Pink
"Velvet"
[4AD; 2009]

case in point.

this song should be a million times higher on the list.

SuperCreep 08.21.2009 07:49 AM

I don't even have to look at it to know that it's lame.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 08:10 AM

Say what you will, but "Umbrella" is a pretty amazing pop song.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 08:11 AM

FoxBen, I don't mean this as an insult, but I'm guessing yr still kind of young. Ammiright?

TheFoxBen 08.21.2009 08:37 AM

Yes, I'm 16 but I don't see what's the point of asking that...

Still, "Umbrella" might not be that bad, but I wouldn't put it over any Panda Bear song and I don't think it's one of the best songs of the decade. One of the most popular ok, but not one of the best, and it's clearly a top here.

But I just took this song as an example, there are certainly worse songs on the list, eh.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 08:48 AM

The age thing was just a hunch.

At any rate, they're picking 500 tracks (mainly singles) from a 10 year span. What are they basing them on? In another 10 years, some of us (you, me, etc) will remember "Bros." certainly. But a lot of other people (you, me, etc etc etc!) will remember "Umbrella." Ranking them one over the other is pointless really. Is "Umbrella" better than "Bros"? Really it doesn't matter. I think they're both excellent songs.

Sonic Youth Gossip 08.21.2009 08:53 AM

Fuck yeah OutKast.
Miles ahead of any other artist in the mainstream.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:06 AM

Outkast are great. But that might be going overboard.

TheFoxBen 08.21.2009 09:06 AM

Personally, my pick for #1 would have been "Good Girl/Carrots" by Panda Bear, it's just my favorite song of the decade, so great.

Toilet & Bowels 08.21.2009 09:10 AM

i don't understand why people who supposedly hate pitchfork still read it, & it seems everyone who reads it claims to hate it

Sonic Youth Gossip 08.21.2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
Outkast are great. But that might be going overboard.

I'm not saying there aren't exceptions, but it's just so great to see a really original and forward-thinking artist on top of all that electroclash, r&b and half-arsed hip-hop that dominated the rest of the list.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i don't understand why people who supposedly hate pitchfork still read it, & it seems everyone who reads it claims to hate it


co-sign. I read it everyday. I have for like 8 years or something. Whatever. I don't agree with everything they say. But I've certainly disovered some good stuff thru either a good OR BAD review and their news section is usually very ahead of others. So whatever.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth Gossip
I'm not saying there aren't exceptions, but it's just so great to see a really original and forward-thinking artist on top of all that electroclash, r&b and half-arsed hip-hop that dominated the rest of the list.


I didnt read the list. I doubt I will even bother. But let's see. "Miss Jackson"? Is that on there? That's a great song from the last decade. "Hey Ya"? I mean overplayed, but certainly a hell of a song. And of course I think they're forward thinkers.

finding nobody 08.21.2009 09:24 AM

Pitchfork does indeed suck.
491. Viktor Vaughn
"Saliva"
[HipHopSite.com
; 2003]
That song does not!

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:28 AM

"Mr. Clean" or "Raedawn" is probably my favorite track on VAUDEVILLE. But that's an incredible album.

finding nobody 08.21.2009 09:29 AM

love any/everything doom touches
Holy fuck!

487. Jaylib
"The Red"
[Stones Throw; 2003]

Great track. Wouldn't expect that one.
Always happy to see Dilla's greatness recognized

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finding nobody
love any/everything doom touches
Holy fuck!



so does NR. Yr in good company.

Rob Instigator 08.21.2009 09:42 AM

pitchfork has not-so-gradually descended into a gofddamn fucking folk pussy fuck singer songwriter asssucking weepy bulshit acoustic loving baby soft WUSS rock a la taylor and John Denver and all that same goddamn horrible lukewarm cringe inducing shithead 70's rehash nonsense. FUCK ALL THAT SHIT.


FUCK I HATE IT SO FUCKING BAD. such pussy pampered fucks strumming their goddamn folkie good for nothing garbage. burn them all to the ground goddamnit!

Sonic Youth Gossip 08.21.2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
I didnt read the list. I doubt I will even bother. But let's see. "Miss Jackson"? Is that on there? That's a great song from the last decade. "Hey Ya"? I mean overplayed, but certainly a hell of a song. And of course I think they're forward thinkers.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they're in there, Hey Ya was top 20 I think.

Was there any Quasimoto? I couldn't be fucked thumbing through the whole thing.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:49 AM

Me neither. I love Madlib (and love love love YNQ) but Quas never did much for me.

Rob Instigator 08.21.2009 09:54 AM

Bombs Over Baghdad is better than Hey ya

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:54 AM

Agreed. But it was also pre-2000.

Rob Instigator 08.21.2009 09:56 AM

true



forget it then!

Sonic Youth Gossip 08.21.2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
Me neither. I love Madlib (and love love love YNQ) but Quas never did much for me.

I agree to give leaves a chance if you agree to give quas a chance. It really helps if you forget that his voice is just madlibs sped up, think of lord quas as a badass, weed smokin cartoon character.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
true



forget it then!


 

noisereductions 08.21.2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth Gossip
I agree to give leaves a chance if you agree to give quas a chance. It really helps if you forget that his voice is just madlibs sped up, think of lord quas as a badass, weed smokin cartoon character.


I think the beats are good. But the persona is a bit too silly for me. The instrumental version of UNSEEN was way better than the LP.

But like I said, YNQ is by far my favorite Lib output.

pinkstation 08.21.2009 10:01 AM

"crazy" by gnarls barkley is the ELEVENTH BEST SONG OF THE DECADE.

FUCK

noisereductions 08.21.2009 10:01 AM

^that's just bad.

pinkstation 08.21.2009 10:03 AM

missy elliot, daft punk, and beyonce all in the top 10 SONGS OF THE DECADE

ZEROpumpkins 08.21.2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
^that's just bad.

What's wrong with gnarls barkley?
Alright yeah maybe not 11th best song I guess... but srsly this is pitchfork

pinkstation 08.21.2009 10:11 AM

i have nothing against gnarls barkley.

that song has jsut pissed me off so much for the past 5 years or so.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
What's wrong with gnarls barkley?
Alright yeah maybe not 11th best song I guess... but srsly this is pitchfork


Nothing. But I wouldn't include that song if I made a list of 500 songs from the decade. And I would include "Umbrella." haha.

pinkstation 08.21.2009 10:14 AM

i would include the LCD soundsystem songs though.

just definetly not that high.

noisereductions 08.21.2009 10:15 AM

again, I find the ranking arbitrary. So whatever. But yeah LCD's "Losing My Edge" was a brilliant single. That's for sure.

pinkstation 08.21.2009 10:18 AM

definetly is arbitrary.

i always think to myself "WHO THE HELL KNOWS THE BEST SONG?"

a. it' an opinion
b. there are so many millions of songs that those who ranked those songs didn' hear. so who the hell knows what kind of intersting sounds there are out there?

frades 08.21.2009 10:21 AM

top songs of the decade for me:

1 : hips don't lie : shakira
2 : roc : nadiya
3 : despre tine : o-zone
4 : new hampshire : sonic youth
5 : piece of me : britney spears
6 : les voisines - renan luce
7 : take me to the clouds above : LMC vs U2

noisereductions 08.21.2009 10:25 AM

"Hips Don't Lie" was good. Truth.

PAULYBEE2656 08.21.2009 10:39 AM

umbrella is a great pop song unlike womanizer..possibly the worst song ever committed to plastic....

panda bear in top songs of all time..yeah he is good but i dont hear that shit pumping out of car windows on a daily basis...unlike battles atlas or even dare i say it.... my bloody valentines soon...

yeah age has A LOT to do with musical tastes..its what you grew up with... marychain, mbv and pixies and stuff mean a lot to me as i wass 14-17 years old when i discovered that shit, that was going on with me...now when you are 15-16 what do you have? outcast, jay fucking zee, all of this backhanded twaddly shite and bag of shite...razorlight and muse and fuckin awful copyist bands that everyone digs them to be damn fucking original and way better than anything else that ever existed before....... i know musical shit is progressing and the next generation is gonna listen to shit that pisses off the previous and im experiencing that at the moment myself!!! i mean id like to think im a forward looking 3o something, i mean im into lightning bolt and whatever.......doesnt matter but some of the unforsaken crock of shit that 14-16 year olds listen to these days is relative to the shit like whitesnake and motley crue and fucking space and so forth that my contemporaries listened to in "the day" and if one more mullet headed, snotty little bleached semi emo gelled fringed tosser with a skateboard says to me that "sonic youth..ha ha sonic oldman more like" i will ram that predated skateboard halfway down his xbox and slam dunk the boxer shorts so far up his ipod crevice that the wedgie will be more atomic than the cafe which bared that name..... fuck off and try and respect the dillinger escape plan with your razor sharp fringe and very expensive teeshirt that is ripped and says punk! avril lavigne is not punk...its shite

rise up and dethrow the beasts of youth..i call on all you over 30s to brandish your aged and worn weapons with pride and whack their sorry little young skulls with a fury that has never been seen before....onwatrd and upward we shall reclaim the night and then havoc will reigh until 10:30..and i ahve to watch the news abut that doesnt matter because little emo chrs will be tucked up in bed with mommy while we are doing class a drugs and being nostalgic!!!! now where did i leave my melvins record...oh yeah in the bin cuz they are shite!



the end

infinitemusic 08.21.2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan
who would ever take pitchfork seriously?


good point
Quote:

but some of the unforsaken crock of shit that 14-16 year olds listen to these days is relative to the shit like whitesnake and motley crue

yeah, true


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