Just black and white...
 

This is a black-and-white type of thread about black and white. Please answer the following q's:

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?
2. Do you dream in black and white or color?
3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color?
4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color?
5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?
6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser?
7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure?
8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?

depends on the topic.?


2. Do you dream in black and white or color?

colour!


3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color?

I find b/w more interesting personally.


4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color?

whether the film is bw/colour really to me is less meaningful than how good or bad the film content is.


5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?

personally I actually prefer monochromatic works or very limited colour. I find otherwise it can just get too.. complicated and messy. Colour in artwork is more and more difficult the more you contemplate it.



6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser?

black mostly.


7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure?

how ridiculous no.


8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???

Jesus was a mythological dude made up from a collection of stories from various cultures. So really Jesus was probably a bunch of different colours.

1. yes.
2. color
3. it depends what i'm shooting but i can go either way
4. color
5. color
6. black and white
7. no.
8. jesus?

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?


Logic is, to my mind, predicated not on definitive conclusions but on valid inference; the former suggests the 'black and white' metaphor; the latter is primarily affirmative-negative. As such, the latter aspires more to what can be shown rather than what is and is, to my mind, opposed to the notion of a bifurcation of 'black and white'. Further, 'black and white' as a metaphor always appeals to a dialectical dynamic which threatens to eternally transgress its own apparent determinateness by admitting of two possible positions.

So my answer isn't a 'yes or no', it's a 'neither/ nor' (or Mu, for those familiar with Pirsig).

2. Do you dream in black and white or color?


Honestly, I tend not to dream.

3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color?

I like good pictures. I dislike bad ones.

4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color?

I'd rather not watch either.

5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?

I prefer sculpture and installation to form and colour.

6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser?

This last year, much more colour, but pretty monochrome in general.

7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure?

I do believe they have those associations, yes. Further, those associations have been quite explicitly stated time and time agian, particularly in the last 100 years or so. Stating empirical facts with a question mark isn't really an ideal way to extrapolate information from people.

8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???

The fact you said 'is' makes me think you believe in Jesus in the present tense; I was always raised that it's impolite to give an opinion that might impinge upon a person's particular belief system.

[/prick]

5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?
I like the pictures in the CIS booklet: they're litterally black and white, no shades of grey, that's unusual.

8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???
He was born in Palestine: probably brown.

1 Yes
2 Color
3 No
4 Color
5 b + w
6 Most of my clothes and everything in my house is black.
7 No way
8 Most Jesuses I've met are closer to brown in complexion.

1. Generally yes
2. Colour
3. I prefer black and white but only in old photographs. I think I prefer colour with modern photos. Modern black and white photos don't have the character that old black and white photos do.
4. Don't mind
5. I'm no artist but I do have preference for just black and white. I got black paint banned in my preschool because I would use it a lot in everything I painted.
6. I dress pretty plainly and I'm usually wearing some black. I think I really feel better when I'm wearing only black.
7. I suppose I do but not when deciding what to wear. Black has other associations as well such as with artists dressing entirely in black or that suits, a symbol of sophistication and affluence, are often black.
8. Jesus was turquoise. everyone was back then.

You impinge on my belief system.

Jesus was brown.

I will FUCK UP your belief system.

Oh yeah! You and whose unicorn?!


EDIT - oh wait, that contradicts my previous post.

Whatever minger

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...? - no. almost nothing in the world is actually divisible into such didactic arrangements. Logic is not black/white, or yes/no. It is yes/no/maybe. Most things are "maybe"
2. Do you dream in black and white or color? - I rarely remember my dreams and cannot say whether they are in color or black and white.
3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color? - I prefer black and white to look at, but I am a color junkie.
4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color? - I like black and white, because it avoids the visual confusion of saturated colors. Too many filmmakers use saturated colors but do not truly understand how these colors affect their work.
5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color? - I like both. I paint in color but I draw in B+W
6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser? - hmm, I focus on neither. I just wear what is comfortable, and what my girlfriend tells me does not look objectionable to her. ha~!
7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure? - I believe nothing.
8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...??? - Jews are not black, although there are black jews, and jews are not considered white by cracka-ass "aryan" assholes. so what of this?

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...? Nope
2. Do you dream in black and white or color? I honestly don't know?
3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color? I really like black and white photography, but I pretty much always shoot in colour.
4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color? Depends on the movie?
5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color? Other than photography, I like my art in colour.
6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser? I wear a lot of black, but never white. As for colours, I wear brown, purple, green, and grey. So thrilling.
7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure? No, what a crock of shit.
8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...??? Jesus wasn't anything, as he wasn't real.

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?

Generally, yes. Things can nearly always be pinned down as right or wrong, although they can be subject to many variables and the same act in two different situations might fall into each of the categories. If one has any sense of morals, then one shouldn't find it hard to say if something is right or wrong, good or bad &c. Stealing, for example, is nearly always wrong, but can be right. The pussy idea that there's a lot of gray in the world is a load of leftie excuse-mongering nonsense.

2. Do you dream in black and white or color?

Colour.

3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color?

Both. I always shoot in colour, and process into B&W if I think the image in question merits it. Sometimes I present an image in boh forms, but not often.

4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color?

I don't come down especially heavily on either side, but I will say B&W

5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?

Colour.

6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser?

Generally a blue base with another colour or colours. Might be black, might be yellow, might be whatever.

7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure?

Not at all.

8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???

He was born in the Middle East, so he wasn't white and probably not what I would call black. Definitely not white with blond hair and blue eyes though. The main window in our church portrays a darker-skinned Jesus.

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?: No. There is no black or white in life.

2. Do you dream in black and white or color? I don't remember.

3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color? Both/either.

4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color? Both/either.

5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color? Both... either.

6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser? Black and white dressing.

7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure? No.

8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...??? Jesus is most likely a fictional character, so he's whatever people want him to be. If he did exist, he was probably white-ish.

But isn't that in itself a black or white statement? You give the definite answer of "no" and therefore that the answer is in no way yes, that there is no grey, that the answer to this question is definitely black/white. Isn't this statement self contradictory?

Haha. Good point.

Lemme rephrase:
Not really. There is rarely black or white in life.

I think there is DEFINITE wrong (child rape) and DEFINITE right (...can't think of any right now... anonymously donating to charity perhaps?) but it's pretty rare. I don't think anyone or anything is completely good or bad, and every action has some good or bad in it.

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?
Yeah, it's easier to look at things like that anyway.

2. Do you dream in black and white or color?
Color.

3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color?
I use color more than b&w. but I still use b&w a fair amount of time. I prefer shooting film in b&w.

4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color?
color.

5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?
Probably white. Dunno why.

6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser?
I'm all over the place when it comes to clothing, but let it be known that a good 65% of everything I own is black.

7. Do you believe that black is associated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure?
No.

8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???
I don't give a flying fuck.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Glice again.

I don't even know the context. I think it's probably better without.

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?

I think everyone operates on some level of a black and white dichotomy (right/wrong, correct/incorrect, something/nothing). Abstractly, it may seem gray but that's just a complex combination of black and whites like a ben-day dot painting. I don't think other people think in periwinkle or any other colors... unless they're insane? Irregardless, I strive not to.

2. Do you dream in black and white or color?

This is probably the last thing I notice of a dream.

3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color?

I think black and white photography is a bit of a cop out.

4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color?

Quality of the writing above all, acting second, cinematography third... color will come up eventually.

5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?

I don't know anything about what I like in visual art.

6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser?

Probably a mediocre blend of both.

7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure?

Racist.

8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???

Jesus is outside of color.

1. Do you think in black and white terms, re: logic, where either it is or it isn't...?
No
2. Do you dream in black and white or color?
Color
3. Photography: do you work in, or prefer black and white photography over color?
Both. depends on the subject.
4. TV or movies: Would you rather watch it in black and white or color?
Color
5. Visual art: do you like to work in, or prefer viewing black and white art over color?
Mostly color
6. Clothing: Do you lean toward basic black and white or are you a splashy color dresser?
Color
7. Do you believe that black is assoctiated with evil and white signifies all things good and pure?
No
8. And finally, is Jesus black or white...???
Neither

1. I feel that if someone chooses to think mainly in black and white then they are choosing to think less. It seems like intentional ignorance.

2. Neither. At times I dream of things that are in color, but I've rarely, if ever, had color stick out at me. I don't remember ever noticing that a dream was black & white.

3. I appreciate some black and white photography, but I haven't personally used it.

4. color tv and movies

5. I don't prefer one over the other. I have three black & white pictures around my room. An Escher print, a Rudimentary Peni poster, and a Zen calender. Color-wise I have a melting Dali clock and a few concert posters.

6. I wore black and gray today. Purple shirt tomorrow. I alternate.. not too splashyyy

7. *avoids question* I associate black and darker colors with earthy, comfortable things. White makes me think of wakefulness.. and.. hm... the white devil!! jk.
pale...lifeless.. cold.. fluffy.. umm.. whatever=P

actually, nah, i don't have any strong associations with either.

8. well his bones are probably brown at the moment..

1. no
2. Always color..lots a grays
3. both
4. color
5. I'm an Interior designer so color
6. Color
7. Society definitly classifies it this way
8. He looked like a Jew, not white or black, more tannish i guess

I'm sure that you have impinged on the belief system of others as well so who cares.

Everyone just stop impinging!!!

There is no scientific proof to deny or prove his existance. However the Muslims, the Jewish, and the Buhdists ALL Acknowledge his place in history as a prophet. So either these religions actually did communicate a great deal of the same information about the same fictional character 2000 yrs ago OR he was real.

Current Buddhists may do. Buddha definitely didn't. And it isn't saying much to say the muslims do as well because their religion is a continuation of the judaeo-christian tradition anyway. But yeah, some guy Jesus probably did exist.

Which Buddha?

Mr Buddha The Original ie Gautama

His sexual organs are concealed in a sheath and exudes a pleasant odor similar to vanilla

He can touch his knees with the palms of his hands without bending.

Yes Jesus of Nazareth.

I don't know if he's the 'original' Buddha and I'm pretty sure there's a fairly large body of work over how many Buddhas there are, or have been. First Buddha of this epoch is difficult to say.

It's all to do with, y'know, all that fuss over 'Buddha-nature', Bodhisattva and all that.

Also, to sonic gail: I think fundamentally the point ASP is making is not entirely dissimilar to yours - the notion of a fictional Jesus being opposed to a Historically 'real' Jesus is a false objection; neither are necessary for the edifying effect that Christ has on believers, or the resistance of apostates, athiests and other religious believers. Plus, anyone who's offended by me taking the piss really should re-address precisely how strong their belief system is.

Jesus was in nazareth?

Takes quite a bit to actually offend me.

And as a christian who does read the bible I do not believe that most of it should be taken word for word. It was written as a guide to living a good life not a history lesson. Also, after years of being transfered from generation to generation it is just not possible for everything in there to be more than fiction. IE the garden of Eden. No I do not think that this guy Adam & his bitch Eve lived in some beatifull garden and a snake told them to eat fruit. I Belive that this is a metaphor for man's progress with evolution and how we made the step from animals that eat and fuck anything to concious human beings that have the emotional and mental capabilities we continue to develop.

Jesus spoke in parables so the poor and dumb could understand. Much of the old testiment is just a big parable. It is the only way to reach everyone (they did not have a public education system)

And I don't need proof to belive that defeats the point.

best way to look at it sonic gail.

there is wisdom to be gained from all religious texts, just as their is ludicrous insanities to be avoided at all cost.

^howd you fuck up the unicorn so fast

Yes you're saying the Fall was a fall from being animal? Wasn't the Fall the introduction of sin to humans (sexual awareness etc)? So if anything isn't it the reverse of evolution in that in the Fall man became more animalistic?


I think parables if anything would make it harder for people to understand. It's the ancient equivalent of nowadays assuming stupid people are capable literary critics.