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The Earl Of Slander 11.13.2009 12:05 PM

Recommend me some ESSENTIAL southern hip-hop
 
OK, so I'm big into my hip-hop at the moment, but it's a pretty new thing for me (only like 10 months or so), and I've basically been almost entirely limited in my listening to East Coast stuff. I don't know why, but I just haven't clicked with the other stuff yet. I'm just now finding myself able to connect with some more West stuff now, such as the Hieroglyphics crew stuff, but still that's kind of not my thing yet. However, I've got a decent list of stuff to check out there, so advice isn't so much needed right now...

Southern stuff though, I'm completely in the dark on really. I like Outkast a lot, but other than that I really haven't been able to get into any of the other big Southern people that everyone seems to love. The joys of Lil' Wayne, Gucci Mane, whatever are just wholly lost on me right now. However, I really would like to change this, and even if I don't like what I've heard so far, I'm willing to give anyone a chance so I can least have an informed opinion on them. Bring on the recommendations!

A proviso: Please, please don't recommend big lists of people. What I want here really a short list of specific essential albums or mixtapes than I can really spend some time with. I'm only going to have time to get like 5-10 albums max and really listen to them closely, so yeah, if each poster could not recommend more than like 3-5 absolutely fantastic albums to check out that would be ideal. Thanks all!

Sonic Youth 37 11.13.2009 12:43 PM

Three Six Mafia

Toilet & Bowels 11.13.2009 12:51 PM

geto boys
the odd squad
three 6 mafia
DJ Shadow's Funky Skunk mixtape has some good southern stuff on it, but there's no tracklist

noisereductions 11.13.2009 01:02 PM

I'm gonna list a few essential albums, but also I will list some tracks from the albums (along with some other bonus tracks) that you might investigate on youtube to get yr feet wet.

David Banner - Mississippi The Album ("Cadillac On 22's")
Devin The Dude - Waiting To Inhale ("She Want That Money")
Geto Boys "Mind Playing Tricks On Me" <--- THEE southern classic!
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II (literally everything on the album)
Lil Wayne - Dedication 2 ("South Music")
Lil Wayne "I Feel Like Dying,"
Slim Thug "Like A Boss"
Three 6 Mafia - Most Known Unknowns ("It's Hard Out There For A Pimp," "Stay Fly", "Poppin Them Bottles")
TI - King ("What You Know?")
Young Buck "Stomp (Ratatat Remix)"

SuperCreep 11.13.2009 02:47 PM

 


not sure if it's too obvious, but whatever. you should def. dig this if you like outkast.

noisereductions 11.13.2009 02:58 PM

^that is a good album.

Rob Instigator 11.13.2009 03:38 PM

I recommend you get the GETO BOYS greatest hits collection, UNCUT DOPE
 



I recommend DEVIN THE DUDE's album JUST TRYIN' TA LIVE
 



I recommend SCARFACE's debut LP MISTER SCARFACE IS BACk
 

jennthebenn 11.13.2009 03:44 PM

Juvenile--400 Degreez
UGK--Ridin' Dirty

Rob Instigator 11.13.2009 03:47 PM

god how I love the Geto Boys and Scarface's cover pics
 

 

 

 

Rob Instigator 11.13.2009 03:51 PM

Jenn rules cuz she listens to the hard shit

noisereductions 11.13.2009 03:53 PM

Rob, I didnt know you were Devin The Dude fan!! That's awesome. Yr favorite rapper's favorite rapper.

viewtiful_alan 11.13.2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennthebenn
Juvenile--400 Degreez
UGK--Ridin' Dirty

These.
And I have to stress that Tha Carter II is my favorite southern rap album (that I've heard).

noisereductions 11.13.2009 04:02 PM

Carter II really is amazing. It was one of the ones that really made me "get it."

Rob Instigator 11.13.2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Rob, I didnt know you were Devin The Dude fan!! That's awesome. Yr favorite rapper's favorite rapper.


I caught him some years back on a local show here called STREET FLAVA

got hooked

noisereductions 11.13.2009 04:08 PM

he's hilarious. So filthy, but so smooth. I think he's my wife's favorite rapper. Which is hilarious if you knew my wife.

The Earl Of Slander 11.13.2009 04:51 PM

OK, well starting out with Tha Carter 2. Once I've digested that I'll try out the 3 Six Mafia and some Geto boys, and see how I'm doing. I like the Banner and Goodie Mob that I've heard before too, so maybe I'll add them to the list...

noisereductions 11.13.2009 10:49 PM

Earl, PLEASE check the video for Banner's "Cadilac On 22's"...

...but definitely listen/digest/love CARTER II. It's serious.

HaydenAsche 11.14.2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
Southern stuff though, I'm completely in the dark on really. I like Outkast a lot, but other than that I really haven't been able to get into any of the other big Southern people that everyone seems to love. The joys of Lil' Wayne, Gucci Mane, whatever are just wholly lost on me right now. However, I really would like to change this, and even if I don't like what I've heard so far, I'm willing to give anyone a chance so I can least have an informed opinion on them. Bring on the recommendations!


I'll work on changing your opinion on Lil Wayne. Check out the following songs:
We Be Steady Mobbin'[no official release yet to my knowledge]
BM Jr[The Carter]
Bring it Back[The Carter]
Stuntin' like my Daddy[Like Father, Like Son]
You ain't Know[Like Father, Like Son]
Tha Mobb[Carter II]
Hustler Musik[Carter II]
Let the Beat Build Bitch[Carter III]
Where The Cash At[Dedication Gangsta Grillz]

I highly recommend that everyone own the first two carters. The albums are nearly flawless. Also, Michael Watts Chopped And Screwed versions of any of the songs on the first two carters are fucking genius. Seriously.

I'm so hot you probably catch a tan around this muthafucka
this rap game, I got my hand around this muthafucka
yeah I said game but I ain't playin' around this muthafucka
yeah I'm the best to ever do it bitch
and you the best at never doin' shit
if you the shit then I'm sewerage
try me and I'll have your people readin' eulogies

HaydenAsche 11.14.2009 08:30 AM

What's the best Yousendit/rapidshare/etc website these days? I was going to upload the bonus discs from the Carter II, Like Father, Like Son and that We Be Steady Mobbin track.

HaydenAsche 11.14.2009 08:45 AM

http://rapidshare.com/files/30691362...s_CD_.zip.html
All thrown sloppily together in one folder inside of another, etc but whatever. I've been drinking the sip since I woke up. I'm real sick but if I get bored today I may even put together a best of Lil Wayne according to me but it sounded real difficult considering how many Lil Wayne albums I have.

The Carter II Bonus Disc(mixed by Michael Watts)

The Block is Hot
Bring it Back
Get off the Corner
On The Grind
Fuck the World
BM J.R.
Fireman
Go DJ
This is the Carter ft. Mannie Fresh
500 Degrees


Like Father, Like Son bonus disc
Stuntin' Like My Daddy
Brown Paper Bag
Neighborhood Superstars
I'm Ridin'
Shooter


And I also threw in We Be Steady Mobbin' because that song is absurd.

HaydenAsche 11.14.2009 08:50 AM

http://rapidshare.com/files/30691362...s_CD_.zip.html

Apparently, RapidDouche only allows it to be downloaded 10 times so if anyone else needs it to be re upped just let me know. I hope you all enjoy thoroughly. The Carter II Chopped and Screwed on it's way. Does anyone know of a better free web hosting site?


Edit: This link is the same as the one in the post above. In case you were confused. See prior post for track listing, etc. Tracks should be labeled.

HaydenAsche 11.14.2009 09:07 AM

Here's the Carter II Chopped and Screwed

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5QNXWEXY

enjoi

The Earl Of Slander 11.14.2009 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
Earl, PLEASE check the video for Banner's "Cadilac On 22's"...

...but definitely listen/digest/love CARTER II. It's serious.


Only just beginning to digest Carter II, and so far it's doing a good job of changing my opinion a bit, although I still haven't fully got it yet. His flow is just so completely out of my expectations that it's difficult to process at first.

Will check out that Banner video soon, because I LOVE the video for Play. So fucking gloriously over the top.

Toilet & Bowels 11.14.2009 11:55 AM

count bass d

HaydenAsche 11.14.2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
Only just beginning to digest Carter II, and so far it's doing a good job of changing my opinion a bit, although I still haven't fully got it yet. His flow is just so completely out of my expectations that it's difficult to process at first.

Will check out that Banner video soon, because I LOVE the video for Play. So fucking gloriously over the top.


The Carter II will do that to people. It's ferocious. Have you listened to the bonus disc? Watts flipping Bring it Back sounds so fucking good.

The Earl Of Slander 11.14.2009 12:33 PM

OK, on Tha Carter II front, the double punch of Receipt and Shooter just fully converted me. Great, great stuff.

wellcharge 11.14.2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
OK, well starting out with Tha Carter 2. Once I've digested that I'll try out the 3 Six Mafia and some Geto boys, and see how I'm doing. I like the Banner and Goodie Mob that I've heard before too, so maybe I'll add them to the list...


you'll definitely like the geto boys, it's older than the style referred to as southern now, before goodie mob and outkast etc. southern rappers pretty much sounded like NWA or Ice-t

The Earl Of Slander 11.14.2009 02:43 PM

^ I only know Gangsta Of Love, but that's a classic, so I'm sure checking them out will be worth it.

Derek 11.14.2009 05:07 PM

The Geto Boys are brilliant, check out everything they've done! And then move on to Scarface's solo career which is just as good at times.

noisereductions 11.14.2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
OK, on Tha Carter II front, the double punch of Receipt and Shooter just fully converted me. Great, great stuff.



Weezy's verses in "Shooter" pretty much sum up why Southern Hip Hop is incredible. "But this is Southern face it / If we too simple then y'all don't get the basics"

gualbert 11.14.2009 05:34 PM

Blah blah, fuck the system, give me a lot of money, so that I can show off as the king of those who hate the system.

noisereductions 11.14.2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert
Blah blah, fuck the system, give me a lot of money, so that I can show off as the king of those who hate the system.




ignorant.

Toilet & Bowels 11.14.2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert
Blah blah, fuck the system, give me a lot of money, so that I can show off as the king of those who hate the system.


yeah, like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyaQy...eature=related

noisereductions 11.14.2009 08:20 PM

^T&B what about "Pot Holderz" and "Quite Buttery" with MF? Sooooooo good.

Toilet & Bowels 11.14.2009 09:23 PM

true indeed, congratulations to the count & countess on their new seed

noisereductions 11.14.2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
true indeed, congratulations to the count & countess on their new seed


you know more about the Count than I. The only album of his I'm familiar with is Dwight Spitz. Other than that, I'm only acquainted with him thru the work of DOOM and related.

Toilet & Bowels 11.14.2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
you know more about the Count than I. The only album of his I'm familiar with is Dwight Spitz. Other than that, I'm only acquainted with him thru the work of DOOM and related.


i was quoting Doom's opening rhyme from quite buttery, i only have 2 or his albums so i'm not an expert, i think he has about 5 albums.

Toilet & Bowels 11.14.2009 10:06 PM

binkis recs is more good southern hiphop, their song "beat you in the head" is one of my favourite tracks of all time

noisereductions 11.14.2009 10:11 PM

the influence of Souther Hip Hop on non-Southern MC's is also interesting...

MF Doom now lives in Atlanta, though he was born in UK and mainly resided in NY for most of his career. But relocated to ATL during the whole Doomposter era. Note the track "Yessir," on BORN LIKE THIS, and (hopefully) the release of promised crew record by Metal Face Acedemy.

also, back in early 00's, Kool Keith praised (of all people) Master P and the South's understanding of minimalism in production and interesting cadences.

to paraphrase HG Lewis' theme from 2000 MANIACS: the South will rise again... in hip hop.

Toilet & Bowels 11.14.2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
the influence of Souther Hip Hop on non-Southern MC's is also interesting...

MF Doom now lives in Atlanta, though he was born in UK and mainly resided in NY for most of his career. But relocated to ATL during the whole Doomposter era. Note the track "Yessir," on BORN LIKE THIS, and (hopefully) the release of promised crew record by Metal Face Acedemy.

also, back in early 00's, Kool Keith praised (of all people) Master P and the South's understanding of minimalism in production and interesting cadences.

to paraphrase HG Lewis' theme from 2000 MANIACS: the South will rise again... in hip hop.


i remember around the time of Black Elvis Kool Keith was giving props to some pretty wack rappers purely for the reason that they were the only ones who didn't cop styles from him.


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