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atsonicpark 01.03.2010 06:43 PM

oneohtrix point never
 
I've talked about them on other threads but I figured they needed their own.. great band (er, great guy).

Derek 01.03.2010 06:53 PM

Something I'd like?

Genteel Death 01.03.2010 06:55 PM

What do they sound like? I can't access myspace, at the moment.

atsonicpark 01.03.2010 06:55 PM

They're minimal synth, for the most part. Lots of synth. It's good.

Derek I'm CooLy on slsk right now if you want to get an aldumb.

Genteel Death 01.03.2010 07:03 PM

The very little of this new wave minimal synth I've heard didn't do much for me. Are there particular selling points for this band? Also, any of the newer bands I should check out?

atsonicpark 01.03.2010 07:06 PM

I'm not sure, I'm not really familiar enough with the genre as a whole yet.

Genteel Death 01.03.2010 07:11 PM

A lot of the stuff I know is fairly old.

Toilet & Bowels 01.03.2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
What do they sound like? I can't access myspace, at the moment.


james ferraro type shit, the few things i've heard haven't done much for me

atsonicpark 01.03.2010 09:37 PM

Well, Ferraro has a thousand albums, and this guy has quite a few already, so I don't know what you've heard, but I don't think those two artists sound much alike at all..

Toilet & Bowels 01.03.2010 09:42 PM

yeah they're different but that's the general stylistic ball park

SYRFox 01.04.2010 12:50 AM

I thought you already liked him, Genteel. Strange.
I love Oneohtrix Point Never. I want to buy Rifts but it keeps appearing/disappearing on Amazon - and I have no paypal account yet.

Bal 01.04.2010 12:06 PM

i dont think rifts sound any special..
classic detroit techno from the mid 80s used to sound exactly like that but 20+ years ago..
and even techno producers these days make minimal synth music like this
try stefan goldmann's 'voices of the dead' for example or innervision 'muting the noise compilation'
from last year this was the best tune in this genre.
ame are kings anyways

_slavo_ 01.04.2010 12:55 PM

I like his music a lot.

It's got lots of 80's synth nostalgia, which is the prevailing feeling that's coming out of this music. Rifts has been in my player much recently and so have the other records of his.
What I really fancy though, are his "Memory Vague" jams ... the weird combinations of looped sounds with psychedelic 80s style computer graphics. Awesome, if you ask me!

Check some of them out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RFunvF0mDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4uBw...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ZnS...eature=related

SYRFox 01.04.2010 01:36 PM

I finally ordered Rifts this afternoon

ni'k 01.05.2010 05:24 AM

i've never even considered that i would listen to or like synth music but i really like oneohtrix - everyone needs the ruine lives CS which is different from everything else he's done and entirely essential

narlus 01.05.2010 01:11 PM

i saw Dan this year open for Prefuse 73 and his performance was much noisier than what _Rifts_ contains.

I quite enjoy _Rifts_...reminds me of mid-70s german stuff.

pokkeherrie 01.05.2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
this new wave minimal synth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
james ferraro type shit


Isn't that called hypnagogic pop nowadays, as coined by David Keenan in The Wire some months ago? :rolleyes:

Terrible genre name, I wish he'd just called it james ferraro type shit instead.

Anyway, I do enjoy Oneohtrix Point Never and other recent synth folks like James Ferraro, Emeralds and Stellar OM Source.

blunderbuss 01.06.2010 12:21 AM

He's touring Europe with Carlos Giffoni's No Fun Acid in March.

Toilet & Bowels 01.06.2010 05:10 AM

i like james ferraro and spencer clark's stuff, but overall it's not a style of music that enthuses me that greatly.

Toilet & Bowels 01.06.2010 05:13 AM

actually I like ducktails a lot, that's probably my favorurite of this stuff.

the ikara cult 01.06.2010 05:16 PM

What ive heard kinda sounds like a drugged-up extended version of the music played during the rounds of a game show. In a good way

Genteel Death 01.06.2010 05:41 PM

I still didn't get around to listening to this. Am I missing something if I say that I haven't got a clue about James Ferraro doing minimal synth stuff?

Genteel Death 01.06.2010 05:46 PM

I know that you internet witches like to fuck with me, but seriously, have you really got ears shaped like bad origamis or what?

Toilet & Bowels 01.06.2010 07:34 PM

it's not really minimal synth, it's more like cluster or klaus schulze had they grown up in the 80s played nintendo and watched teenage mutant ninja turtles and 80s educational TV programs for kids.

atsonicpark 01.06.2010 07:40 PM

Like I said, it really sounds nothing like Ferraro, to me. And I'm quite familiar with both artists. Ferraro has done all sorts of interesting things, really beautiful ambient and some stuff that leans more towards collage-stuff, I'd say a lot of his stuff is quite minimal but that's about it.

ONEOHTRIX.. not all of his stuff is "minimal", but Betrayed in the Octagon is, and worthy of a listen (and it's short too).

Genteel Death 01.06.2010 08:13 PM

Will I feel like waiting for James Ferrari's dad dressed like a Ninja Turtle if I listen to this?

Toilet & Bowels 01.06.2010 08:18 PM

if you grow an afro & a weak moustache then yeah

Genteel Death 01.06.2010 08:23 PM

He looks like all my fellow compatriots if they never played minimal ninja turtles videogames music, so I might give it a go.

Toilet & Bowels 01.06.2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Like I said, it really sounds nothing like Ferraro, to me. And I'm quite familiar with both artists. Ferraro has done all sorts of interesting things, really beautiful ambient and some stuff that leans more towards collage-stuff, I'd say a lot of his stuff is quite minimal but that's about it.

ONEOHTRIX.. not all of his stuff is "minimal", but Betrayed in the Octagon is, and worthy of a listen (and it's short too).


james ferraro was the first name that came to mind, whatever, i could have said ducktails, or sun araw, or dolphins into the future or whatever as a general approximation of style. OPN has more in common with those than it has with say, hunter gracchus, or kito mitzutani rouber, or xnobbqx, for example of other bands who don't belong to any easily identifiable genre and you might use as a short hand way of giving an approximate comparison or indication as to what style of music another artist plays.

Toilet & Bowels 01.06.2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
He looks like all my fellow compatriots if they never played minimal ninja turtles videogames music, so I might give it a go.


sell people blank tapes but with art work so they look like they aren't blank, sell people mixtapes of stuff in your collection but say it's a special mix of your own stuff, give your previous releases new names and art work and sell them as new releases.

atsonicpark 01.06.2010 08:34 PM

Heh, well, Sun Araw sounds nothing like any of this stuff, to me. Ducktails, also (who I find kinda just mediocre, along with Wet Hair), doesn't really have much in common with OPN, to me. I guess all of it is a bit, um, lo-fi electronic exploration stuff, but there's a lot more going on with their stuff (and I don't mean that in a good way).

I can see why you lump all that stuff together, but eh. I wouldn't lump OPN with any of that stuff really. I would probably lump it with Infinity Window, Emeralds, Imaginary Softwoods, Lilypad... stuff like that...

Bal 01.07.2010 10:39 AM

detroit techno mid 80s.
thats how he sounds.

atsonicpark 01.08.2010 06:56 AM

...uh?

_slavo_ 01.08.2010 10:51 AM

Bal, are you sure we're talking about the same Oneohtrix point never?

SYRFox 01.08.2010 12:15 PM

mariachi polka.
that's how he sounds.

Bal 01.08.2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
Bal, are you sure we're talking about the same Oneohtrix point never?


yeah i was waiting for someone to ask this but yes its the same guy im talking about.
tehcno nowdays and techno back then is 2 different worlds. classic techno artists (mainly from detroit in in the mid 80s) have pioneered with a similar kinda musical style. they often made that sort of futuristic ambient kinda synth music, in wich often the roland juno 60 synth gave the core of the music..
check out some derrick may (very short clip unfortunatly) or early carl craig for example (this beeing a bit different tho)
but global communication (from 90s london) have come up with also a similar kinda vibe... and the list goes ooooooooon....

Derek 01.08.2010 02:04 PM

That Derrick May stuff sounds marvelous.

Genteel Death 01.09.2010 06:53 AM

I haven't listened to this yet. Are they influenced by Scissor Shock, by any chance?

davenotdead 01.09.2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
if you grow an afro & a weak moustache then yeah


 

davenotdead 01.09.2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Heh, well, Sun Araw sounds nothing like any of this stuff, to me. Ducktails, also (who I find kinda just mediocre, along with Wet Hair), doesn't really have much in common with OPN, to me. I guess all of it is a bit, um, lo-fi electronic exploration stuff, but there's a lot more going on with their stuff (and I don't mean that in a good way).

I can see why you lump all that stuff together, but eh. I wouldn't lump OPN with any of that stuff really. I would probably lump it with Infinity Window, Emeralds, Imaginary Softwoods, Lilypad... stuff like that...


totally agreed. sun araw is more lo-fi guitar jams influenced by beach/weed/african/dub stuff...

ducktails is just indie/retro/synth/beach pop...

OPN is more closely related to Emeralds and all their 80s kraut/synth influences...


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