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demonrail666 09.02.2010 05:09 PM

Would The Eternal have been improved by having Dave Mustaine play on each track?
 
There's a poll.

pokkeherrie 09.02.2010 05:12 PM

YES! YES! (and i don't even like megadeth)

goddammit.

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jennthebenn 09.02.2010 05:15 PM

My two most-played albums of 1990: Goo and Rust in Peace.

Mustaine has an autobiography out that I want to get. You think Hetfield
would ever write an autobiography? Hell no. Filling out a crossword puzzle
probably exhausts his brain for a day.

SuperCreep 09.02.2010 05:24 PM

as long as he didn't sing. i strongly dislike megadeth, but i can't deny rust in peace is riff heaven.

demonrail666 09.02.2010 05:58 PM

which begs the question, would Rust in Peace have been improved by having Kim/Lee/Thurston sing on every track?

atsonicpark 09.02.2010 06:21 PM

 

demonrail666 09.02.2010 06:24 PM

So that's what that green light suddenly flashing above my screen was all about.

ann ashtray 09.02.2010 07:16 PM

Dave's a big baby, and a bore.

I always loved how the Megadeth logo was almost exactly the same as the Metallica logo.

atsonicpark 09.02.2010 07:19 PM

Dave's a brilliant guitar player, better than anyone in Metallica (though Metallica's songs were usually better). Megadeth were awesome for a while.

ann ashtray 09.02.2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Dave's a brilliant guitar player, better than anyone in Metallica (though Metallica's songs were usually better). Megadeth were awesome for a while.


I agree....but technicality doesn't always = good music, which you've already clearly stated.

Dude just fails in the creative department. YOU WERE A DRUNK AND YA FUCKED UP GET OVER IT.

SuperCreep 09.02.2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
which begs the question, would Rust in Peace have been improved by having Kim/Lee/Thurston sing on every track?

i can hear thurston working really well with those songs in my head. not so sure about kim and lee.

Magic Wheel Memory 09.02.2010 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennthebenn
My two most-played albums of 1990: Goo and Rust in Peace.

Mustaine has an autobiography out that I want to get. You think Hetfield
would ever write an autobiography? Hell no. Filling out a crossword puzzle
probably exhausts his brain for a day.


Just finished it. Pretty good read, though it's basically what you expect it to be.

Magic Wheel Memory 09.02.2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Dude just fails in the creative department.


I think he kicks ass in the creative department.

Magic Wheel Memory 09.02.2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
There's a poll.


The conventional wisdom is that Dave's absence from The Eternal left a void, in terms of heavy thrashiness. But I think it allowed the songs to "breathe" in a very nice way.

automatic bzooty 09.02.2010 10:54 PM

sonic youth just hasn't been the same since dave quit

jennthebenn 09.02.2010 11:02 PM

Or since Uma's not around anymore.

Chris Lawrence 09.02.2010 11:33 PM

i don't think i've ever heard a megadeth record but i trust everything mark says.

atsonicpark 09.03.2010 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory
Just finished it. Pretty good read, though it's basically what you expect it to be.


Let's say the book is 600 pages long. On how many pages does he mention Hetfield and/or Ulrich? 601 of 'em?

Death & the Maiden 09.03.2010 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
i don't think i've ever heard a megadeth record but i trust everything mark says.

Rust in Peace probably does deserve the ten, but only sevens for Killing is my Business and Peace Sells?
I saw Dave Mustain's book yesterday, and I remembered watching the Megadeth Behind the Music thing on youtube. It was mostly just stuff like (narrator) "Dave was an out of control rock star living the rock n roll lifestyle!" followed by Dave listing all the different drugs he was a ddicted to and how many times he went to rehab. So I decided not to get it.

atsonicpark 09.03.2010 12:45 AM

Wow, Chris, he just posted those Megadeth reviews; nice to see another big fan of Prind.. I've been reading him for a good 10 years now too... insane!

jon boy 09.03.2010 12:50 AM

god yes it would!

Derek 09.03.2010 11:38 AM

I'm disappointed that I can not vote "Yes it would" right now.

GeneticKiss 09.03.2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
i don't think i've ever heard a megadeth record but i trust everything mark says.


Prindle's an entertaining writer (sometimes) but he often misses the point when it comes to metal (didn't he once refer to Tool as "Stool"?)...metal (especially Megadeth) isn't about clever, catchy lyrics; it's about riffs and solos.

SuperCreep 09.03.2010 02:43 PM

tool is stool.

chicka 09.03.2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I agree....but technicality doesn't always = good music, which you've already clearly stated.

Dude just fails in the creative department. YOU WERE A DRUNK AND YA FUCKED UP GET OVER IT.


Sounds like he must be Eric Clapton's bastard son.....

Murmer99 09.05.2010 02:52 AM

i don't like dave mustaine or Megadeth, so no.

ann ashtray 09.05.2010 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicka
Sounds like he must be Eric Clapton's bastard son.....


I LOL'ed.

atsonicpark 09.05.2010 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Prindle's an entertaining writer (sometimes) but he often misses the point when it comes to metal (didn't he once refer to Tool as "Stool"?)...metal (especially Megadeth) isn't about clever, catchy lyrics; it's about riffs and solos.


I definitely agree with you there; he constantly puts down Tool, which a lot of people do (and even though I think they're one of the best mainstream rock bands of all time, I agree with quite a bit of the criticism)... but then he'll praise Neurosis for the same things he puts down Tool for. And then he'll give CKY a 10/10. Um, okay, sure.

I just don't think he "Gets" metal, just like he doesn't "get" rap, but he reviews it anyway. Still makes for interesting -- if silly -- reviews. His SY page is the worst, though, he's even said that himself, since some of the reviews are 10 years old. Goo used to have the 10, then Confusion had the 10, now NONE of their records have a 10. And, again, he'll put down one record for something and then praise another record for the same thing he criticized earlier. Makes for odd reading.

His best reviews are the ones like Zappa's page, where he listened to all the records in a row, and reviews one a day, or however he did it. Since he didn't wait, say, 5 years between adding reviews to the page, all the reviews have a consistency to them.

Ghostchase 09.05.2010 04:19 PM

Dave Mustaine is a stain, in the underwear of life. Instead go with Scott Ian from Anthrax. Sonic needs some goatee metalheads.

SuperCreep 09.05.2010 04:44 PM

fuck scott ian. kerry king on the next SY album!

Magic Wheel Memory 09.06.2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Let's say the book is 600 pages long. On how many pages does he mention Hetfield and/or Ulrich? 601 of 'em?


Of course he talks about Metallica, since they're a very important part of his history, but he doesn't overdo it. He does acknowledge that for a long time, he was obsessed with them and that it wasn't healthy.


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