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jon boy 07.23.2006 02:22 PM

sex pistols v the clash
 
well?

Пятхъдесят Шест 07.23.2006 02:27 PM

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of either.

I'll say Sex Pistols just for the sake of this conversation.

Isn't this Non-Sonic Sounds material? Not that it matters.

jon boy 07.23.2006 02:32 PM

i suppose so. i am not a huge fan of either as well but what the hell its better than a load of troll threads.

Пятхъдесят Шест 07.23.2006 02:33 PM

We've got plenty, eh?

I think I'd pick The Homosexuals over both of them in this genre. If they count?

Hip Priest 07.23.2006 02:35 PM

I like both, although neither of them are regular listens. But I like my favourite Clash songs more than my favourite Sex Pistols songs. I also like bands with a conscience, and bands who are prepared to try out different styles, and with The Clash that means anything from punk to reggae to jazz, and whatever else they fancied at the time.

I recall on Westway to the World Joe Strummer saying that if someone had suggested using a balilaika, the band would have responded by demanding the biggest balilaikas in the world.

In both cases I prefer the subsequent projects of members ie Public Image Limited and Big Audio Dynamite.

Пятхъдесят Шест 07.23.2006 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hip Priest

I recall on Westway to the World Joe Strummer saying that if someone had suggested using a balilaika, the band would have responded by demanding the biggest balilaikas in the world.


Quite the record that would have been!

nomadicfollower 07.23.2006 02:41 PM

For London Calling, the Clash.

finding nobody 07.23.2006 02:43 PM

i'll go with the pistols. they have attitude

atari 2600 07.23.2006 02:53 PM

I'm just listening to Jonesy's Jukebox from Lee & Thurston's appearance & they were talking about Sid Vicious' first show in NYC which Thurston attended & Mick Jones & David Sylvain were on guitar!

As far as The Clash & Sex Pistols. I respect The Clash. The lyrics were ambitious in the political sense, they really were devoted to actually caring & London Calling is a very good record, but you cannot compare The Clash to Sex Pistols because they were one of the best bands ever, one of the finest live acts ever & definitely the best punk rock band ever.

EMMAh 07.23.2006 02:54 PM

They're equal to me I guess. I don't listen to either of them very often.

finding nobody 07.23.2006 02:55 PM

Interesting Trvia: when the sex pistols formed, the only song they knew how to play was "i wanna be your dog"

atari 2600 07.23.2006 03:03 PM

On the recent Jonesy's Jukebox appearance, as the segment is wrapping up, Thurston says to Steve Jones, "You've been my favorite guitar player forever."

noisemachine 07.23.2006 03:05 PM

The Sex Pistols were good, but the Clash are amazing, and much more prolific. London Calling is one of my all time favorite albums, as is their self titled album. Give 'em enough rope is also a pretty good album. Sandinista isn't as great as any of those, but I like it because of its experimenting with different styles. Combat Rock wasnt great but not horrible either.

As far as I know, the Sex Pistols only released one real studio album, and while I like it a lot, I dont think it can surpass the greatness of London Calling or The Clash (s/t)

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 07.23.2006 03:09 PM

Nevermind the Bullocks has nothing on any of the Clash albums.

atari 2600 07.23.2006 03:12 PM

They didn't need duration.

Listen to Kill The Hippies from Atlanta & all questions will be anwered.

krastian 07.23.2006 03:21 PM

Kind of a tuff one since The Clash have so much more material.....I'll say The Clash though.

luxinterior 07.23.2006 04:14 PM

How about Wire could kick both their butts.

Hip Priest 07.23.2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior
How about Wire could kick both their butts.


Maybe. But Tenpole Tudor would be waiting 'round the corner for them:

 

luxinterior 07.23.2006 04:23 PM

They look menacing. I'm backing down.

TheDom 07.23.2006 04:29 PM

That is the ugliest picture I have ever seen.

toxic johnny 07.23.2006 04:31 PM


The Pistols went out in a blaze of glory after only one album... and thank god for that... they were never meant to last for very long... And it is true that Lydon went on to better things with the first three Pil albums.

The Clash were just plain pedestrian and dull in comparison to the Pistols at their best.

TheDom 07.23.2006 04:33 PM

The Pistols, because I enjoy them more.

The Clash s/t is a real good album, but I am not too fond of London Calling or Combat Rock (those are the only other 2 I've heard)

luxinterior 07.23.2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDom
The Clash s/t is a real good album, but I am not too fond of London Calling or Combat Rock (those are the only other 2 I've heard)


I'm the other way around. I think their first album could've been great, but the recording is very poor. I can't even listen to the album version of Garageland, which I think is an excellent song when they did it live, but on the album it just sounds half-assed. On London Calling, they actually had their shit together.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 07.23.2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxinterior
How about Wire could kick both their butts.


Yeah.

Pax Americana 07.23.2006 05:54 PM

The Clash. Though I enjoy the Sex Pistols every now and again.

afterthefact 07.23.2006 06:03 PM

come on, clash. no question.

Onani Nic 07.23.2006 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxinterior
How about Wire could kick both their butts.


Agreed. I also enjoy the Buzzcocks much more than the Clash and sex pistols too.

Cantankerous 07.23.2006 10:03 PM

Sex Pistols, no contest.

afterthefact 07.23.2006 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
Sex Pistols, no contest.


no way, sex pistols were to punk was nirvana was to grunge... not bad stuff, but they each managed to completely sell out their respective genres

HaydenAsche 07.23.2006 10:17 PM

Clash were just fucking boring.

kingcoffee 07.23.2006 10:19 PM

Both bands have had a major impact on punk rock. Both bands are good, too. But all in all, I have to say the Clash are the better band simply because they were more musically adventurous and interesting. The Sex Pistols raised the idea of social revolution in the UK punk scene but it was the Clash that moved people to do something about it. Plus, The Clash weren't as big of assholes as the Sex Pistols.

Cantankerous 07.23.2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by afterthefact
no way, sex pistols were to punk was nirvana was to grunge... not bad stuff, but they each managed to completely sell out their respective genres

I don't believe in that shit.

kingcoffee 07.23.2006 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by afterthefact
no way, sex pistols were to punk was nirvana was to grunge... not bad stuff, but they each managed to completely sell out their respective genres


I don't think Nirvana (at least Kurt Cobain) sold out punk rock. The record companies sold out for him. That's one of the resons Kurt killed himself. If anyone sold out, it was Dave Grohl.

John Violence 07.23.2006 10:50 PM

I am gonna go with The Clash.

afterthefact 07.23.2006 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingcoffee
I don't think Nirvana (at least Kurt Cobain) sold out punk rock. The record companies sold out for him. That's one of the resons Kurt killed himself. If anyone sold out, it was Dave Grohl.


believe or not, that's what happened.

Cantankerous 07.23.2006 11:16 PM

 

afterthefact 07.23.2006 11:40 PM

you are right. why must we have these petty arguements? can't we all just get along? :)

krastian 07.23.2006 11:43 PM

.....and makeout?

afterthefact 07.23.2006 11:44 PM

sure, why not :)

krastian 07.23.2006 11:45 PM

That's the spirit.


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