Bob Dylan says something stupid
 

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“I don’t know anybody who’s made a record that sounds decent in the past 20 years, really,” the 65-year-old rocker said in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine.

...he's got to be kidding. I never figured Dylan for a dumbass comment like this.

Bobby obviously had some sand in his vagina when he said this.

First, thank The Lord there are people like Bytor in the world...

Secondly, I think there are a few post-'86 cds that instantly spring to mind that are impressively digitally (at least in part) produced. Tom Petty's 1994 solo album Wildflowers has some of the best digital production around, even though it's not particularily a great album, but just a good one. The production on Peter Gabriel's Passion: Music for the Last Temptation of Christ is done extremely well. Another, (that sounds as perfect as I can imagine it) is the Lou Reed/John Cale-Songs for 'Drella. The production on Siamese Dream is just about perfect for that album. In Utero sounds right most of the time. Sister was released within the last twenty years, in '87, of course, but it wasn't digitally produced. The tube-amp analog production on Sister rules!

Well this is what happens when you listen to scratchy records and twists 8-tracks in an early age. Digital sounds friggen fine.

everybody says something stupid at some point on a daily basis. why expect any different from "famous" people? I mean maybe the fucker was drunk & pissed and ranting. He is not The Holy Prophet from Whose Mouth Pours the Word of God-- is he? Or maybe it's just what Bytor Peltor said. Me, frankly, i don't care what bob dylan says one way or another, ha ha. but anyway...

Leave him alone. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, assholes.

har har. yes something like that is more or less what i meant. except a) less confrontational (though i don't mind a good fight-- but for this? no). b) a lot more convoluted and diseased-- my mind is warping fast. must be all those chemicals.

I'm not defending him just because I like him. I personally don't agree with his opinion, but that's irrelevant. I would defend Nicole Richie if she said the same thing, even though I can't stand the bitch. Why? Do you even need to ask? Please defer to my previous post in this thread.

ha ha you know it's funny we agree but it sounds like we don't. maybe it's ill-fated chemistry.

but anyway just to be a pain in the ass let me say this;

if everybody is entitled to their opinon
then those who have an opinion about someone else's opinion are entitled it them as well.

in sum, opinions are like assholes, we all have one, some have many, and we are all assholes. if you don't believe me ask any misanthropist. god damn the food colorings are really doing a job on me today.

I agree. In my opinion, however, which I am entitled to, everyone here is being an asshole about what he said.

well i doubt bob dylan is very up on new music, people his age seldom are. and who cares what bob dylan thinks of the music you like anyway?

no shit.

I remember a lot of people criticising or being dissatisfied with Sister's lo-fidelity analog recorded sound. I happen to think that Sister has one of the best, most appropriate, most evocative and poignant sounds of all SY's albums. None of the instruments are muddied and although the vocals seem a bit buried, it only adds to the mysterious mood of the album. Digital is not always necessarily better.

I personally don't like digital recording at all, it's much too slick for my tastes, although a lot of that is on the production end.

The production end of digital is actually quite wide-reaching in its potential. But then that should be obvious. With digital production techniques, a lot of the old tricks and techniques can be done effortlessly and the potential for an intricately detailed and layered sound is there, but of course, this all depends on the taste and skill of the producer. Digital recording on the other hand, entails translating organic vibration of matter(sound) into a series of 1s and 0s that will instruct the computer in how to intepret and 'hear' that sound. Many agree that something is lost in the process.

recording with old analog equipment in a live room is more fun. it's not so clinical.

I don't care how an album is produced so long as the songs on it are good.

production can spoil a record somewhat though, just compare the stuff the jesus lizard recorded with steve albini to the stuff they did after they signed to a major label. shot and blue totally lack that biting sound of their earlier records.

i don't like how steve albini mixed a lot of the things he did but he is great at recording.

When I was thinking of great albums that were recorded analog that one came to mind right away.
The arrangements & sounds to be found on Ziggy are of an impeccable variety.


I rank Sister as my top Sonic Youth album & #3 pick all-time. I love the production. Confusion is Sex & Bad Moon Rising have the best production besides it. I think the production is adequate on all the Sonic Youth releases, but there's always a little something that could be tweaked here or there except for those three...the irony being the lo-fi, lo-budget ones (before "production" was even a concern really) being the best produced. Wharton Tiers, Butch Vig & Jim O'Rourke did their own personal things to enhance Sonic Youth's production, but, in the end, there are other things lacking.

i'm not a dedicated fan of his, but i think there are certain bands he's done an amazing job of recording. low & the jesus lizard to be precise. and shellac, but they don't count.

he did a great job on that pj harvey record.

He did a great job on In Utero; other than that, I've never been one to be overly impressed with Albini.

i don't like the mixing on in utero very much, if i put that on i have to fuck around with the EQ. i really like the sounds he got though, but the vocals are buried a little to much.

not even on liar or goat?

I have the sound set on my drum machine to sound like the drums on In Utero and Surfer Rosa...

The drums on In Utero really hit the sweet spot for me. Huge, throbbing kicks and massive pounding snares. Coolness.

I'm hoping The Ex decide to have someone else produce their next album. The Steve Albini sound, three albums in, is starting to run thin.

So Bob Dylan said something stupid. So what? Need we be reminded that Bob Dylan used to say a lot of stupid things? Have you seen No Direction Home? Remember the scene where Dylan is walking around town and see's a sign for pet grooming and he just rearranges the words to make nonsensical and down-right silly compositions? Funny, but dumb. I rest my case.

that was great! i don't know anyone who can just do that so fast, because while it was nonsensical it still kind of made sense.

i love that part

that means he thinks the Traveling wilbury's CRAP sucked as much shit as I thought it did!

ha ha!

just means he is old man.

albini records music to sound on vinyl EXACTLTY as it would sound LIVE, which is a lost art. most recording engineers make bands sound totally different on recordings than when they play live. albini is GOD

That's the way I interpretted it, too. He's saying that new technologies have not made recordings sound any better and maybe even have made them sound worse than older analog methods, and such. Right? I really don't think he's saying there's been no good music--he knows better than that, and I think we know him better than to think he'd say something like that.

We always blame the technology and never ourselves for not having the ability to use it in a more stimulating and creative way.Digital recordings CAN sound as raw and visceral as analogue recordings,it's just that there aren't that many people around who have the talent to do the job.

Yeah, that scene was one of my favorites too. I was just pointing out how ridiculous Dylan can be some times.

Is it more difficult to make a good digital recording than a good anolog recording?

Does it matter if the finished product is of blinding quality?

No, of course not. As one not familiar with recording technology, I was just wondering if the technology and skills required have become more difficult. Seems to make sense that it has, I guess, so I guess it's a dumb question. I mean, George Martin was using, what, 4-track for the Beatles? What was that--press the record button and go?