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demonrail666 07.15.2011 02:52 PM

The End of Murdoch?
 
The phone hacking scandal in the UK has led to the closure of the News of the World and a frantic scramble within the British political establishment to disown Murdoch, but what real impact will it have on his empire as a whole? How is it being reported abroad? How big is Murdoch in other countries and could this scandal have implications on his international operation?

floatingslowly 07.15.2011 03:08 PM

it's in the news here mostly because of a) the implication that 911 victims were tapped and b) we like to laugh at other's misfortunes (when given the chance).

all in all, I'd say it's not such a big deal as CARmageddon is.

lol news.

tesla69 07.15.2011 03:19 PM

NYC has been hypnotized by the tragic killing and dismemberment of an 8 year old boy all week.

Its too bad someone didn't set them up and leave fake voicemails murdoch would report on and then look foolish.

floatingslowly 07.15.2011 03:33 PM

as example, currently at the top of (the US version of) CNN.com, there are two pictures.

one, of Mr Murdoch, takes up 1/3 the width of the page; the remaining 2/3's has to do with "is cheerleading really a sport??" (apparently, yes, it is).

I hope this helps.

:)

Pookie 07.15.2011 03:38 PM

Much as I would love this to be the beginning of the downfall of Murdoch, this will blow over in no time and the Murdoch clan will be around for some time to come. Rags like NOTW will exist as long as the demand is there. And the demand is definitely there. And its replacement (The Sunday Sun) will be just the same. They'll just be more careful how they get their information in future.

demonrail666 07.15.2011 05:50 PM

I agree. Remember the public outcry about the paparrazi after Diana, then a few months later they're back scrutinising pictures of Jennifer Aniston's cellulite. The only real blow to Murdoch is his alienation from politics but even that may change if the public once again forgive and forget.

Glice 07.15.2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Much as I would love this to be the beginning of the downfall of Murdoch, this will blow over in no time and the Murdoch clan will be around for some time to come. Rags like NOTW will exist as long as the demand is there. And the demand is definitely there. And its replacement (The Sunday Sun) will be just the same. They'll just be more careful how they get their information in future.


At the risk of replying to Pookie post seriously - this ^

floatingslowly 07.15.2011 10:24 PM

replying to Pookie post

SpaceCadetHayden 07.15.2011 11:26 PM

Lying on Pookie's "post"

Genteel Death 07.16.2011 12:52 AM

File under: Another wasted outcry.

demonrail666 07.16.2011 11:43 AM

I don't know about 'wasted'. If nothing else it's undermined Murdoch's political clout in a way that can only be a good thing. And even if things do blow over, I can't see things reverting back to how they were before the scandal broke. Plus the legal ramifications for Murdoch in the US, where his company's registered. (I say, really knowing only half the story.)

Pookie 07.16.2011 12:30 PM

Also, not wasted because it was worth it alone to see Murdoch crawling to the Dowler family and desperately trying to appear human.

Genteel Death 07.16.2011 12:37 PM

Wasted because it's not going to change anything.

Pookie 07.16.2011 12:45 PM

I think that if anybody is truly shocked by the hacking revelations then they either don't understand the odious nature of the tabloid press or they don't care.

Either would explain why the Mail continues to thrive.

Pookie 07.16.2011 12:47 PM

On a slightly different note: Oh what a lovely war - Murdoch's other legacy.

Genteel Death 07.16.2011 12:50 PM

Pookie, demonrail666 and Glice - I live in your own country, speak two languages fluently and talk to more foreigners than you do. Anyway, this is not important news. I suppose they are if you're a local.

demonrail666 07.17.2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
and talk to more foreigners than you do.


How do you know?

Pookie 07.17.2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Pookie, demonrail666 and Glice - I live in your own country

And we live in your own country my friend
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Originally Posted by GD
, speak two languages fluently

Who needs foreign talk when English is the universal language?
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Originally Posted by GD
and talk to more foreigners than you do.

I doubt that. Teeming with the foreigners around here. Teeming. And I talk to every one of them I meet. And sometimes the things I say aren't even abusive.[/quote]
Quote:

Originally Posted by GD
Anyway, this is not important news. I suppose they are if you're a local.

You ARE a local.

Keeping It Simple 07.18.2011 08:29 AM

It's turned into an ugly witch hunt against News International by the other papers to deflect the fact they're just as guilty of hacking.

tesla69 07.18.2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
It's turned into an ugly witch hunt against News International by the other papers to deflect the fact they're just as guilty of hacking.


Do you have evidence of that?

Keeping It Simple 07.18.2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
Do you have evidence of that?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...n-2315449.html

jon boy 07.20.2011 12:56 AM

it all ends!

static-harmony 07.20.2011 06:59 PM

Like many have said it will be forgotten when the next sensational story happens. As for reportage here in the U.S. it seems to be widely reported by everyone except Murdoch's news companies. It is more popular than raising the debt ceiling, and the arrest of hackers.

jon boy 07.20.2011 07:50 PM

A few weeks ago, Murdoch, or rather the more savage tendencies of the press as a whole, represented God. Fear of God isn't always a bad thing in itself, if it keeps you on the straight and narrow – but politicians behaved like medieval villagers who didn't just believe in Him, but quaked at the mere suggestion of a glimmer of a whisper of His name. You must never anger God. God wields immense power. God can hear everything you say. You must worship God, and please Him, or He will destroy you. For God controls the sun, which may shine upon you, or singe you to a Kinnock. Soon he will control the entire sky.

tesla69 07.22.2011 08:28 AM

http://yesbuthowever.com/two-murdoch...-dead-5000943/

First it was Big George Webley who relayed a fear of the Murdoch machine and wound up dead. Now it’s Sean Hoare. Two British media whistleblowers. Two untimely deaths.
  • The hacking/bugging taking place at News Corp. businesses was far more widespread than previously known.
  • Based on their dismissals from News Corp. it is shown that the hacking went far up the food chain all the way to Les Hinton, who resigned as head of Dow Jones last week.
  • The police were involved, as evidenced by the resignation of two of Scotland Yard’s top cops.
  • Prime Minister David Cameron’s Communication Director was a former Murdoch employee and News of the World editor.
The United Kingdom is the closest western country to a de facto police state. Surveillance cameras are everywhere. No Bill of Rights (in law or practice), and by living there you acknowledge that you are a subject of the British Crown. Britain is a great place, but it is not exactly a place where freedom flourishes compared with the United States, France or Canada.
Given the above, it is very easy to envision a scenario where the police could and would build a campaign of quiet intimidation against men like Mr. Webley and Mr. Hoare. London police were on the payroll of a Murdoch enterprise; why wouldn’t they act to protect their racket?

the ikara cult 08.03.2011 04:38 PM

this thing is getting worse and worse for them by the minute.

They will ditch the Murdoch/Brooks names and install people with some kind of charitable record, but continue to run the organisation with the same level of cynicism and corruption. Everyone who accepted their publications without question is responsible for the things we've seen today, ive never trusted the Murdoch press, and now most people are feeling the same way.

The business will live on, theyll just stick the mother of a murdered child on the front page every day and expect people to accept it.

Genteel Death 08.03.2011 04:45 PM

What are you going to do about it apart from being outraged by it? Nothing.

the ikara cult 08.03.2011 04:54 PM

who, me?

Well i have several friends who work at Sky's HQ in Isleworth, so ive enjoyed talking to them about it, but i know that talking about my outrage to them hasnt forced them to quit their jobs and leave their kids with an uncertain financial future. Perhaps i like to hope my friends are ok rather than demanding their redundancy when they havent done anything wrong.

Perhaps contributing to the sum total of competing ideas is my goal?
Perhaps i just enjoy an arguement from time to time?

Its hard isnt it

Maybe i dont have a goal, and im just expressing my opinion?

WHAT? EXPRESSING MY OPINION ON THE INTERNET??

What a fanciful idea

Genteel Death 08.03.2011 05:19 PM

Why are you putting so much emphasis on having opinions on the internet? Just curious.

the ikara cult 08.03.2011 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Why are you putting so much emphasis on having opinions on the internet? Just curious.


Which medium are you expressing your opinions through, pray tell?

Genteel Death 08.03.2011 05:40 PM

The internet, that's why I didn't need to remind you.

the ikara cult 08.03.2011 05:48 PM

remind me of what porky?

Genteel Death 08.03.2011 06:03 PM

Oh, nevermind.

Pookie 08.03.2011 06:06 PM

Hello everyone. What's going on here then?

the ikara cult 08.03.2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Oh, nevermind.


*slaps self on the head*

demonrail666 08.03.2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Hello everyone. What's going on here then?


Watching the first series of dinnerladies again.

Pookie 08.03.2011 06:48 PM

Good for you. I'm taking advantage of the school holidays to stay up late listening to punk rock music knowing I won't have to get up early tomorrow.

demonrail666 08.03.2011 07:52 PM

living the dream


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