Further Education / Going to University again
 

Well, in a few weeks you can call me doctor iuris, if you want to. I'm working 20 - 30 hours per week at the moment and have an income sufficient to my needs, so I was considering studying something new - "just for fun". It's quite cheap in my country to study.

Did anyone else do something like this - after you've finished your education and already have got a decent job? How was it? Did you actually finish it? How long did it take? How many hours did you work per week at the same time? Did you also attend student parties? Did the girls (or boys) treated you with the "proper respect", which can be both a good and a bad thing?

I just think it's more attractive to me compared to the working 40 - 50 hours a week alternative - like many friends of mine do - when you don't really need the additional money. Of course you can also get married and become a parent. Also nice, but not now.

I'm considering Romance studies, because i really like (and know a bit in) Spanisch and Italian (and Latin). I also thought about arab or the turkic languages, but on the other hand I have come to the conclusion it woudn't be really an "amusement" due to the difficulty of these languages.

Where are you 30 und 40 something year old students?

If you are not in the mood the answer any question I asked, you can also name the beer you are drinking most (which has not to be your favorite beer).

Zipfer Urtyp (recently-ish)

I will study again, definitely. It's just something I enjoy doing.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't come cheap for me and it's not really a possibility right now. But, you know, you don't really need to go back to university to learn a language, if that's what you want. In fact, I don't know anyone who actually managed to learn a language in a proper academic environment.

Sadly, in my profession more study won't equal more income so it won't be worth the investment unless I have money and time to spare in the future.

I sometimes think of going to Law School then I remember how insane that idea is, considering I am me.

My favorite beer is the Mexican sol. I know that's not a popular choice but... I like them weak and watery.

what i remeber from school was that it was easy
didn't finished school

after that
learned things in autodidactic
my only interest was the study of modern visuals from micro and macrocosmos
soo amazing all this new information
the dream of the pioneers came true

i lived in their dreams

so i don't feel the need to go to university
have done enough brainwork to make myself happy

you can call me Mr. Futurist
and i like tequillia

yeah, it's nice, when education is free or at least cheap, isn't it? Only conservative politicians would add at this point, that everything with a value must cost something ...

I know, it's not indispensable to go to University, when you want to learn a language. But I'm also interested in History, Geography etc of the particular country, and you also get this at the Uni. Furthermore, I just like the University. And with a degree in hands I eventually could earn a few extra bucks through translating .... ? Who knows. Or even become a certified court interpreter ... ?

So what have you studied respectively are studying and where? You think a degree from law school wouldn't mean more income? Hm.

Thanks for your contribution. As a thank you get a phrase you already might know: Impossibilium nulla est obligatio (you cannot agree something impossible. Not very exciting, I know. Just like jurists in general. Dry and correct.

El sol de Mexico. Bueno. Me llamo Gulasch Noir y tengo pelo marrón.

Cool

No, I don't mean Law School. That could mean money, although where I am there are a lot more attorneys than needed and many work in different fields.

I did a few postgraduate courses, which helped my income but a proper MA (even if free, which is a possibility) would not improve anything in my profession, because it's all about contacts and not degrees. There's good and bad sides to that, but I'd have to work a lot less to have time for a Master's Degree and I can't afford to not make money.

I'm a translator/interpreter/copywriter. And I can honestly tell you I don't know ONE person who has learnt a foreign language properly at university. Also, if you care about money I wouldn't recommend that career.

Theres alot to be said for being an enlightened amateur, you can find reccomendations on a particular subject fairly easily from reliable sources, spend £100 or so on books, join a discussion group, and get as good an education as you would do at a university. It depends what your goal at the end is; if you want a job out of it go to uni, if its for pleasure, do it yourself

Well, I find going to class very enjoyable. You know, the whole experience.

His name is Goulash and he has brown hair.

I did too. Mainly because there was a 1:10 male:female ratio. I think i learned something along the way... they mentioned facial recognition and cannabis... The fact i got a 2:1 whilst being an alcoholic mess suggests to me that the university system aint entirely straight in the UK

Returned from consuming a Camel Light I thought I could appreciate your post a bit more. Autodidactic is not a bad thing per se at all. I just feel the desire for learning something in a more focused way, and my autodidactic experience was not focused at all, bit of this bit of that. But it's cool to hear, you made it. Altough I wasn't really able to understand your subject due to my not so super English.

Nobody is NOT an alcoholic at university, not even professors.
It was heaven for me, first learning experience ever in which I didn't feel patronised.

Also, teaching yourself is not for everyone. Most people lack the discipline.

I had a housemate who was dedicated, disciplined, studious... and we both ended up getting the same grade. I felt guilty cos she worked so hard and id been so unreliable. Maybe im running myself down in retrospect, but it certainly felt that way.
troo on the second point. Im like that with exercise, i need other people to pressure me into doing it. But when it comes to learning stuff, im better left to my own devices. I hate people telling me what to do, but i like being told to do what im doing harder/faster/stronger

OK. I get your point, but I don't care that much about the money. If the (time) input amortizes, I'm fine, if not, then not. Like I said, it would be more a "pasttime", so I don't care, if I know this language perfect afterwards. The mentioned contacts aspect is a fact.

One time a japanese kid beat me up because I got better grades than she did despite spending my entire time sleeping and listening to music.

Goin' back to University TOMORROW! AHHHHHHHHHHH. I should havefinished but I didn't. So now I am going to.

Good luck EVOLghost

Last week i was talking to a Japanese girl and i said my name was Richard and she went "aaah.... DICK!"

do you blame her?

i drank a few olde style pilsners a couple weeks ago, not my thing but i need something to make me feel connected to the masses, it did not work

god. how shit is today?
discuss.

i'd like to have those beers with you mr. pimples
i might need to go to the supermarket for the second time in one day

I laughed heartily, a Japanese girl looking you in the eye and saying "DICK!" is quite a fun experience

i dropped out of school as soon as it was possible. i have at times regretted it, but then the life i lived since then was so spectacularly adventurous/disasterous that it turned me into the freak i am today and for that i am grateful. no sensible route of uni and a non criminal/mentally ill social circle could have done that. many of the sane people i have met range from somewhat repellant to transcendentally disgusting, and i imagine their presence would have brought out the worst in me.

later this year i will start doing exams to qualify to work for the company i am training with now. so for me uni was unnecessary.

I don't think I would find it amusing. But then again, I'm a moody bitch.

Right now, I would say to anyone thinking that going to university is the way to go to get a career and get a well paid job that they're getting themselves in debt for no reason with unrealistic expectations. If money is what they're after, they better invest in starting a business and stop dumbing down classes. Most of my friends who never finished university make the same or more than I do. Usually more, with no debt to pay off. Anyway, if you want to learn something or have some sort of specific career it's unavoidable. It is a lot of fun tho.

I don't know. I went to university with a boy who spent the entire time sniffing glue out of a sock and now he has a high paid job.

Sometimes it feels like I only go to the supermarket to buy beer/return empty bottles. Neighbours must be talking behind my back, I'm sure.

and you dont have a dick

Do you have a problem with that????

What's this returning bottle business anyway? I'm glad I don't have to do it.

Half a year ago I aplied for a position as research associate at the institute for for Constitutional Law. They didn't take me. You get € 1700 take-home pay for 30 hours per week. That's OK.

That sounds alright, yeah. But where I am that's what you get for selling shoes in a shop. Oh, the free market.

Anyway, I could never find it in me to give a shit about money. As long as booze is affordable... sad.

Why do you have to return your bottles?

I do it, and it's actually not that stressful. I don't like beer out of a can.

you get a few cents for every returned bottle. The Environment!

No. Beer in glass bottles. It has to be. It makes all the difference. But all I have to do is put them in the "recycle" bin.???

yes, that reminds me of kramer.

I see.

€ 1700 for selling shoes. Here you'd get € 1000 - at most. But maybe life's cheaper where I live.

It certainly is.

to knox -

you're right. it's often simply not affordable. you are going to end up indebting yourself for no real reward. i have read a few articles talking about uni as the next financial bubble to burst.

i will quite possibly end up earning more money than most of the uni people i know. and i, like your friend, spent my late adolescence in a heavy drug fugue.

of course i got here because of connections and absolutely would not have otherwise.

a lot of people don't realize how utterly nepotistic things are. it really is all about connections for nearly all well paying jobs.

many of my former friends are in a bad state but few of them are able to think beyond the impulsive hedonism of the present. the ones that will do well are mostly ones who naturally can handle social life without it getting in the way of hardcore studying.

everything is about connections.
they have a nicer term for it now: networking.
but that's all it is.
people are not understanding that the future has no jobs. it's all about providing services or opening a small business that provides services to another small business in an endless orgy.
so get it hard.

also, i just found some money in the drawer. ordering food.

Facing your statements about networking, I realize it's not that of a big issue where I live. It has it's relevance, but not to the described extent. My luck, because, I'm not a great networker. On the other side, I know it is beneficial, so maybe I should start becoming one.

Well, there's 20 million people in this city alone trying to make a living. So, yeah, it's kind of tough.