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HaydenAsche 10.16.2006 03:35 PM

I'm a worthless piece of shit. Really, I am.
 
I have no ambition.
I have no drive.
I don't care about anything.

I really want to do something with my life but I'm such a lazy fuck. I never do homework or read for shit and I'm getting terrible grades in my classes. I do nothing but hang out and enjoy my life. Is there something wrong with me?

Seriously, though, if I sit down to start an essay I will be called 10-15 minutes in and I will just leave to go do something. I'm never going to accomplish anything.

This post was completely serious.

static-harmony 10.16.2006 03:38 PM

Well, I used to have that in High School as well. Everybody has at one point something that pushes them to be somewhat ambitious into what they want to do with life. For example, I did not want to end up working in a factory, and I really want to move to New York, That motivated me to finish my diploma and trying to get out of here. You just need to look at your sorroundings and figure it out. Ask yourself, do I really want this?

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
This post was completely serious.



Damn, you are so punk!

HaydenAsche 10.16.2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Damn, you are so punk!


Completely off.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 03:39 PM

hm, i hope you're not looking for excuses for self-hate.

i mean-- who says that you have to always PERFORM in order to appreciate your own life?

do whatever it is you do and enjoy it. no need to look to external standards to decide if you're going to value yourself or not. life is too short to waste it with self-torture. really.

HaydenAsche 10.16.2006 03:40 PM

Oh, I'm not hating myself. I'm just complaining. I really wish I could get stuff done. I just can't bring myself to do shit.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 03:41 PM

not being able to do shit is one thing that does not necessarily equate with being "a worthless piece of shit"

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama
You are 16, right? Be patient young one. As you grow into an adult, you will be MADE to have ambition and drive and HAVE to care about shit. You have SO much to look forward to.




-Unless you choose to live in an arrested state of childless record-nerd/guitar playing teendom like myself, of course.

I mean, I have reponsibilities and all that, but my "ambitions" are all fairly modest and attainable.

Danny Himself 10.16.2006 03:42 PM

I was going to reply with some sort of smart-ass comment, but I realized you're being serious, so I'll be friendly. :]

If you want drive, you need something to drive you. Is getting good grades really important to whatever your dream is? Perhaps you want to shovel shit at a local farm. Of course not! Be good at school! Otherwise you will be shovelling shit at a farm, and Chout will laugh at you.

I have no idea, honestly. Good luck though.

HaydenAsche 10.16.2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
not being able to do shit is one thing that does not necessarily equate with being "a worthless piece of shit"


Well, I don't contribute to society other than the occasional funny comment. I'm just an ass. I wish I was a better person.

I'm so not nice it is sad. I'm not going anywhere.

static-harmony 10.16.2006 03:44 PM

Being nice has nothing to do on how far you get in life. You just need some sort of push that is all.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 03:44 PM

you can even have great ambitions and not necessarily hate yourself if you're unable to meet them.

the reward/punishment for good/bad performance can be internalized so that people carry it inside themselves without the need of a master.

i find it ridiculous. but most people are programmed that way.

i once knew a girl who was not very good looking. let's say she was downright homely. the curious thing is that she HATED HERSELF for it. (as if it was her own fault, or if she needed more problems already).

no need to become your own enemy when you don't "perform". really.

nature scene 10.16.2006 03:44 PM

well, after high school you have total freedom to choose your own path in life. If you don't find the things that you learn about in school very interesting, try learning about something that they don't teach you in school. Maybe then you can find some ambition.

remember, you shouldn't be taught what to think but you do need to be taught how to think.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 03:52 PM

it's not about highschool or later you fools

it's the internalized psychological mechanism of reward/punishment

mommy yells at you if you break her teapot

so the next time you break something else, you yell at yourself

sick, really.

but that's how most people function and why so many people need antidepressants, antipsychotics, and therapists. most people are not self-nurturing and therefore get into vicious circles of madness every time they fail at something.

but anyway. i need to make myself lunch.

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 03:57 PM

Oh, and I would hasten to add this little tidbit:


We are ALL worthless pieces of shit. You know, cosmically.


Whoa, man.

HaydenAsche 10.16.2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Oh, and I would hasten to add this little tidbit:


We are ALL worthless pieces of shit. You know, cosmically.


Whoa, man.


Deep.

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 04:01 PM

Yeah, I knew that would blow your mind.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Oh, and I would hasten to add this little tidbit:


We are ALL worthless pieces of shit. You know, cosmically.


Whoa, man.


speak for yourself, kansas :p

HaydenAsche 10.16.2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Yeah, I knew that would blow your mind.


It, like, totally tripped me out, ya dig?

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
speak for yourself, kansas :p



I was speaking of humans, not GODS.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:03 PM

ha ha.

i fucking hate this song, to the point of vomit:

I close my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone
All my dreams, pass before my eyes, a curiosity
Dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind.
Same old song, just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do, crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see

Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind

[Now] Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky
It slips away, and all your money won't another minute buy.

Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind
Dust in the wind, everything is dust in the wind.


---
repugnant

don't you think?

static-harmony 10.16.2006 04:04 PM

It is cheesy.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:05 PM

it is worse than cheesy.

it devalues life.

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 04:05 PM

You say repugnant, I say TOTALLY PROFOUND.

It's like, making the futility of man's existence in an infinitely cold and uncaring universe accessible to the common man via the accessibility of the Classic Rock Model.

You are dead inside.

HaydenAsche 10.16.2006 04:06 PM

And you think Sufjan is adult contemporary?

PKB

UVRAY 10.16.2006 04:07 PM

Like Charles Bukowski wrote once:

"somebody laid down this rule that everyone's gotta do something. You know, be a doctor, a dentist, a glider pilot. And I'm just tired of thinking of all the things I don't want to be."

You will discover your vocation in life. And once you do you will pursue it with passion. You're still young.

School will suck the life out of some people. It just does not work for some people. I was one of them. I hated school. I dropped out and left without any qualifications whatsoever.

And I'm glad I did.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:07 PM

meh! futility my ass!!

life is a glorious, delicious fucking thing

so in the end we blow up

what the fuck does it matter?

what matters is-- did you live fully and deeply? did you enjoy the ride?

to negate the value of life because of the inevitability of death is cowardly and... well-- christian. in the worst possible way.

Everyneurotic 10.16.2006 04:08 PM

it's funny, when i was in high school i was too busy trying to do band shit that i didn't really had time to hang out or anything.

Everyneurotic 10.16.2006 04:09 PM

!@#$%!: did you take your hippie medicine today or something? have you been growing a beard?

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
meh! futility my ass!!

life is a glorious, delicious fucking thing

so in the end we blow up

what the fuck does it matter?

what matters is-- did you live fully and deeply? did you enjoy the ride?

to negate the value of life because of the inevitability of death is cowardly and... well-- christian. in the worst possible way.



I didn't say anything about not enjoying myself and not living fully. I just don't want to live under the illusion that anything I do is going to make a scrap of difference to the general state of things in the grand scheme.
Fortunately, I am only concerned with enjoying myself and living to the fullest in the best way I can. No kids, few responsibilities, and loud loud speakers.

(I also really hate Kansas, for real)

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
!@#$%!: did you take your hippie medicine today or something? have you been growing a beard?


read again man, and read well. you got it ass backwards.

Everyneurotic 10.16.2006 04:13 PM

i'm not the one quoting kansas or saying how life is awesome, am i, you old coot?

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I didn't say anything about not enjoying myself and not living fully. I just don't want to live under the illusion that anything I do is going to make a scrap of difference to the general state of things in the grand scheme.
Fortunately, I am only concerned with enjoying myself and living to the fullest in the best way I can. No kids, few responsibilities, and loud loud speakers.


what general state of things, and what grand scheme? :confused:

and still: futility my ass-- the inventor of the espresso machine did not live in vain. picasso did not live in vain. my grandmother did not live in vain. etcetera. because i do not have the point of view of a "grand scheme", i have MY point of view and from that point of view A LOT MATTERS. even the entertainment that all of you sucks provide :D

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 04:20 PM

The inventor of the espresso machine most definitely lived in vain when it comes to people who think coffee is gross (I am not one of these people).

It's all relative. When you're talking in terms of geological time or eternity beyond this planet, very little we do matters.

This is not to say that I don't try to enjoy life and be productive within my own set of priorities. I am more concerned with my own little bubble than I am with the "greater universe" in any case.

Everyneurotic 10.16.2006 04:20 PM

i agree with mr point of know return.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:22 PM

yeah yeah it's all relative, but to devalue life on the basis of relativity is wrongheaded and misguided. "relativity" is only a theory, in fact we have our own instincts and perspectives; to dismiss those on the grounds of some theoretical construct is a form of intellectual suicide-- or suicide by intellect to say it correctly. and from that perspective, kansas can kiss my hairy ass.

Savage Clone 10.16.2006 04:24 PM

The funny thing about that Kansas song is the fact that it will live on long after they are dead as it has now become deeply embedded in Pop Culture.

Everyneurotic 10.16.2006 04:24 PM

carry on!!
the wayward...
son.

!@#$%! 10.16.2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
The funny thing about that Kansas song is the fact that it will live on long after they are dead as it has now become deeply embedded in Pop Culture.


yes, like a slow poison, or radioactive debris...

Everyneurotic 10.16.2006 04:27 PM

You must spread some eternal joy of the children of nature around before giving it to !@#$%! again.


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