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E. Noisefield 03.02.2012 12:45 PM

Best BBC sessions?
 
There are so many "BBC SESSION" recordings out there that I can't keep track. I know the are not streamlined, so there's no "bbc sound" or anything consistent in the production, but I still will check out a "BBC Sessions" from just about any band that i'm even remotely interested in.

So, what are your top BBC sessions? What are some that you have in your collection?

Joy Division and Dinosaur Jr are what I've been playing lately, but I'm sure there are tons out there that I'm not aware of. Please make some suggestion!! :)

Jeremy 03.02.2012 01:35 PM

Search "John Peel" and be amazed by how much this has already been talked about.

E. Noisefield 03.02.2012 09:23 PM

This occurred to me when I was making the thread, and I even envisioned being snarked at for not missing something, I'm sorry-- in truth I just don't know that much about John Peel honestly, despite having a number of "Peel Sessions". I know he was a british dj who, it seemed, had recorded pretty much every artist I like, but that's about it.

Are all BBC sessions Peel sessions? Not by title. But if they're all pretty much the same thing then... well. I feel quite stupid, I assure you.

:(

E. Noisefield 03.02.2012 09:29 PM

Wait, the Beatles BBC session was recorded long before John Peel started, surely. And the Who and Zeppelin recordings?

So... that's something, right?

gmku 03.02.2012 09:50 PM

I have no idea, because I don't have that many. In my collection, I think I only have JAMC, Joy Divisoin, and th' Faith Healers. I wish I had more. I like the ones I have all very much.

I'd like to get Dino Jr, Pj Harvey, and Birthday Party.

E. Noisefield 03.02.2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I have no idea, because I don't have that many. In my collection, I think I only have JAMC, Joy Divisoin, and th' Faith Healers. I wish I had more. I like the ones I have all very much.

I'd like to get Dino Jr, Pj Harvey, and Birthday Party.


Yeah there are tons that I'm interested in and I'm always hearing of new ones that I didn't know existed.

Check out "No Bones" from Dino's sessions album.

Mortte Jousimo 03.03.2012 02:24 AM

John Peel started already in the sixties and made sessions for example with Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull and King Crimson. But there are also other BBC-sessions as just Peel-sessions, for example Bauhaus swing the heartache album includes all BBC-sessions (at least I think so).

Mortte Jousimo 03.03.2012 07:35 AM

I just noticed that Sy has also made four peel sessions. And there is no official release from them (I found 4 tunna brix and peel sessions 2 from the bootlegs). I have read here that many appreciate that tunna brix (the Fall-covers) but what about the rest? I donīt remember mentions about those others. Maybe theyīre not very great because band havenīt made official release from them?

stu666 03.03.2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
I just noticed that Sy has also made four peel sessions. And there is no official release from them (I found 4 tunna brix and peel sessions 2 from the bootlegs). I have read here that many appreciate that tunna brix (the Fall-covers) but what about the rest? I donīt remember mentions about those others. Maybe theyīre not very great because band havenīt made official release from them?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel.../s/sonicyouth/

http://sonicyouth.utkonos.org/lossy/...20(1986-1992)/

http://sonicyouth.utkonos.org/lossle...-14.fm.flac16/

http://sonicyouth.utkonos.org/lossle...-01.fm.flac16/

stu666 03.03.2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
There are so many "BBC SESSION" recordings out there that I can't keep track. I know the are not streamlined, so there's no "bbc sound" or anything consistent in the production, but I still will check out a "BBC Sessions" from just about any band that i'm even remotely interested in.

So, what are your top BBC sessions? What are some that you have in your collection?

Joy Division and Dinosaur Jr are what I've been playing lately, but I'm sure there are tons out there that I'm not aware of. Please make some suggestion!! :)


and yes there are other BBC sessions other than the John Peel ones but he did the most and best ones....

check the links below


http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=2014&page=6&highlight=john+peel+s ession (I see you've posted in this thread anyway)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/johnpeel/

Mortte Jousimo 03.03.2012 11:50 PM

Thanx a lot Stu! I try to listen those in my home, I am now at work and thereīs no mediaplayer in this computer.

Count Mecha 03.04.2012 03:08 AM

I really enjoy those Rodan Peel Sessions tracks. Great tunes.

The only BBC Sessions I actually own are the Led Zep and Dinosaur Jr. ones.

Slightly humoring story about the LZ one. I went into a failing music store nearby at the age of 11 or something like that with five dollars or so, only enough to buy one used album. My choices eventually boiled down to the LZ BBC Sessions or a copy of Sister (it was missing the cover I think). I didn't know a thing about SY at the time, but I knew my brother really enjoyed them. But I ended up going with Led Zep instead. He ripped on me alot after that. All in all I probably made the right call, because I got into SY a year later anyway, and I probably would've never bought those BBC Sessions if I hadn't bought it then, they're good though.

Mortte Jousimo 03.04.2012 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Mecha
Slightly humoring story about the LZ one. I went into a failing music store nearby at the age of 11 or something like that with five dollars or so, only enough to buy one used album. My choices eventually boiled down to the LZ BBC Sessions or a copy of Sister (it was missing the cover I think). I didn't know a thing about SY at the time, but I knew my brother really enjoyed them. But I ended up going with Led Zep instead. He ripped on me alot after that. All in all I probably made the right call, because I got into SY a year later anyway, and I probably would've never bought those BBC Sessions if I hadn't bought it then, they're good though.

I think you made a right choise. I have never bought any record that have no cover.

gmku 03.04.2012 03:31 PM

Never buy a record without its cover. Never.

Severian 03.04.2012 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Mecha
I really enjoy those Rodan Peel Sessions tracks. Great tunes.

The only BBC Sessions I actually own are the Led Zep and Dinosaur Jr. ones.

Slightly humoring story about the LZ one. I went into a failing music store nearby at the age of 11 or something like that with five dollars or so, only enough to buy one used album. My choices eventually boiled down to the LZ BBC Sessions or a copy of Sister (it was missing the cover I think). I didn't know a thing about SY at the time, but I knew my brother really enjoyed them. But I ended up going with Led Zep instead. He ripped on me alot after that. All in all I probably made the right call, because I got into SY a year later anyway, and I probably would've never bought those BBC Sessions if I hadn't bought it then, they're good though.


Agreed on the Rodan comment. Highly underrated band.

The Zeppelin sessions are probably my favorite thing that band ever recorded.

E. Noisefield 03.05.2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
i'll have to drag out those dinosore bbc sessions. i remember "The Leper" was a killer.


Absolutely. The liner notes intro was written by Thurston himself!

Dinosaur Jr at their best, really.

:)

Mortte Jousimo 03.05.2012 02:29 AM

I have just listened the first peel sessions and itīs just great! So noisy and dirty! Cooper-cover is also very great and expressway is also little different as EVOL-version. The second is not as great in my opinion (it is coming right now) but I really consider to buy 4 tunna brix in next record happening. I hope they will release all peel sessions sometime, I think itīs very hard to find that Blast first-compilation where are two first peel sessions-songs. And I really want all those four!

Mortte Jousimo 03.05.2012 02:59 AM

Third session sounds also just great!

E. Noisefield 03.05.2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
:eek: ?!?! who said so?


It's in the liner notes of the official us version of Dino's BBC.

A note about how awesome they are, signed by Thurston Moore.

Severian 03.06.2012 11:27 AM

E, i believe you're thinking of those "official" BBC releases that were coming out in droves in the 90s. They were kind of a "big deal" and usually came in deluxe 2CD editions. The peel sessions you have on your computer are technically boots here in the US for the most part. However john peel was a fixture in BBC radio.

Basically, all your peel sessions are BBC, bit not all those "BBC" reissues are by peel, though some do include his recordings.

My favorites from the "BBC" are Bowie at the Beeb, JD, and Pixies. All official releases. My favorite actual peel sessions are a different matter. But damn, there is a lot of both.

stu666 03.06.2012 11:41 AM

E. Noisefield please clear some pms...

E. Noisefield 03.06.2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stu666
E. Noisefield please clear some pms...


Clear some pms? You mean erase them? Read them? I don't have many- can't be a capacity issue.

Wait. How do you know how many pms I have? :confused:

stu666 03.06.2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
Clear some pms? You mean erase them? Read them? I don't have many- can't be a capacity issue.

Wait. How do you know how many pms I have? :confused:


you can only store 50 private messages at one time and I was trying to send you another so that's how I know how many you have. you can always download all yr pms before you delete them so they won't be lost...

Keeping It Simple 03.07.2012 10:05 AM

It's the norm for bonus tracks to be included on CD reissues. The bonus tracks can include sessions recorded for BBC radio DJs other than John Peel. I've heard sessions recorded for David "Kid" Jensen by bands like Killing Joke and Bauhaus, for example.

Severian 03.07.2012 11:58 AM

Right. Peel wasn't the only employee of the entire BBC. However, you'll find that most of the more experimental, punk, dance, and independent rock artists worked with him. He was crucial in gaining exposure for a lot of the less traditional bands that others at the BBC may have ignored.

Still there are plenty of other BBC releases out there, but the best ones are the peels.

Keeping It Simple 03.10.2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Right. Peel wasn't the only employee of the entire BBC. However, you'll find that most of the more experimental, punk, dance, and independent rock artists worked with him. He was crucial in gaining exposure for a lot of the less traditional bands that others at the BBC may have ignored.

Still there are plenty of other BBC releases out there, but the best ones are the peels.


I couldn't agree more.

Mortte Jousimo 05.17.2012 03:55 AM

Mozilla says those utkonos sites are attacking sites and not let me open them anymore. Are those 1 & 3 Peel Sessions in some other sites?

stu666 05.17.2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Mozilla says those utkonos sites are attacking sites and not let me open them anymore. Are those 1 & 3 Peel Sessions in some other sites?


try switching to internet explorer, they work fine for me...

demonrail666 05.17.2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
It's the norm for bonus tracks to be included on CD reissues. The bonus tracks can include sessions recorded for BBC radio DJs other than John Peel. I've heard sessions recorded for David "Kid" Jensen by bands like Killing Joke and Bauhaus, for example.


Andy Kershaw also had some excellent sessions. By the 90s, I'd say that in many ways he was a far more interesting DJ than Peel.

Mortte Jousimo 05.18.2012 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666
try switching to internet explorer, they work fine for me...

Well, I have only Mozilla...

Pookie 05.18.2012 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Andy Kershaw also had some excellent sessions. By the 90s, I'd say that in many ways he was a far more interesting DJ than Peel.

Agreed. I'm certainly not knocking Peel because his show was a massively important part of my childhood, but his musical tastes definitely seemed to get less adventurous in the 90s (or maybe mine just got more adventurous?!).

demonrail666 05.18.2012 10:22 AM

I think he lost some of his importance once Grunge and Britpop hit the mainstream in the mid 90s, being forced to celebrate a kind of obscurity-for-its-own-sake in an effort simply to stay relevant. Kershaw became more interesting for me because he was more willing to look further afield and wasn't so bound to Peel's ultimately quite post-punk-inspired idea of what cutting edge contemporary music 'should' be. But as you say, that's not to undermine his enormous importance overall. Although by the time he started championing The White Stripes I'd pretty much given up on him altogether.

Not in the same league in terms of significance, but I've always thought Janice Long has been quite overlooked; she played a vital role boosting those bands that weren't quite marginal enough for Peel but which (at that time, anyway) weren't mainstream enough for the daytime playlist, groups like The The, etc who might've otherwise found themselves lost in that massive no-mans-land that existed during the 80s, between Peel and Simon Bates. (Although, as KIS mentions, David Kid Jensen was also pretty good in that regard).

stu666 05.18.2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Well, I have only Mozilla...


well get internet explorer as well then, it only takes a few seconds... even if you only use it to download the files you want.

Mortte Jousimo 05.20.2012 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666
well get internet explorer as well then, it only takes a few seconds... even if you only use it to download the files you want.

I think Mozilla is the only one thatīs not cost anything.

stu666 05.20.2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
I think Mozilla is the only one thatīs not cost anything.


internet explorer is free! like google chrome and all the rest. I don't know any that you have to pay for....

Mortte Jousimo 05.21.2012 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666
internet explorer is free! like google chrome and all the rest. I don't know any that you have to pay for....


My explorer went out of date years ago and then Mozilla was the only free. Or then there was some other problem and I couldnīt download it. I have also heard Mozilla is safier than explorer. Maybe there arenīt any safety problems with those sites, but itīs also possible there are. Anyway I donīt like to listen music from the computer. Of course itīs sad if I never heard those great tunes again. I hope they will some time release them in vinyl!

stu666 05.21.2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
My explorer went out of date years ago and then Mozilla was the only free. Or then there was some other problem and I couldnīt download it. I have also heard Mozilla is safier than explorer. Maybe there arenīt any safety problems with those sites, but itīs also possible there are. Anyway I donīt like to listen music from the computer. Of course itīs sad if I never heard those great tunes again. I hope they will some time release them in vinyl!


look, I don't get what yr problem is. I've told you what you need to do... I help people on here all the time but you could easily help yrself this time by downloading internet explorer just use it to get the tracks you want then switch back to mozila. It's not gonna fuck yr computer up...

up to you man.

Mortte Jousimo 05.22.2012 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666
look, I don't get what yr problem is. I've told you what you need to do... I help people on here all the time but you could easily help yrself this time by downloading internet explorer just use it to get the tracks you want then switch back to mozila. It's not gonna fuck yr computer up...

up to you man.

My problem is that I donīt want to spend too much time with the computer because I have lots of more interesting things to do in my life. Almost all the time some people or program have said "it just take a minute to you to download this" it has taken at least an hour. SYG is the only gossib where I am regulary and thatīs only because SY is the most imporartant band to me. I really like those Peel tunes, but theyīre still just few songs. If Mozilla doesnīt play them then it doesnīt. I donīt believe I will have ever all the stuff SY or itīs members have made anyway.

Also, there are lots of criminals in the internet (I think you know also). Maybe they canīt fuck my computer up, but they can have my personal information like the number of my credit card. Maybe you have a rich dad who pays your bills if youīre fucked up with the internet, but I have to pay my bills myself.

Originally I just asked you, were these songs in some other sites, not asked you how could I listen them from those utkonos sites. Anyway you donīt have to help me anymore

sonic sphere 05.22.2012 02:22 PM

^
i hope you are fucked up with the internet 3 times. and that your credit card refuses to allow you to purchase items for 10 years you ungrateful prick! :)

stu666 05.23.2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
My problem is that I donīt want to spend too much time with the computer because I have lots of more interesting things to do in my life. Almost all the time some people or program have said "it just take a minute to you to download this" it has taken at least an hour. SYG is the only gossib where I am regulary and thatīs only because SY is the most imporartant band to me. I really like those Peel tunes, but theyīre still just few songs. If Mozilla doesnīt play them then it doesnīt. I donīt believe I will have ever all the stuff SY or itīs members have made anyway.

Also, there are lots of criminals in the internet (I think you know also). Maybe they canīt fuck my computer up, but they can have my personal information like the number of my credit card. Maybe you have a rich dad who pays your bills if youīre fucked up with the internet, but I have to pay my bills myself.

Originally I just asked you, were these songs in some other sites, not asked you how could I listen them from those utkonos sites. Anyway you donīt have to help me anymore


I don't have a rich dad, but I'm sure most credit card companies will refund you any money if yr card is used fradulently. As long as you have good internet security and are careful when you log into sites then you should be ok anyway and it will protect you if you are using mozilla, internet explorer or chrome... it sounds like you are ultra paranoid! there's crimanals everywhere, does that stop you using yr credit card in shops etc...?


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