International Olympic Committee fucks up again
 

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...ction-18477144

The bastards in the IOC have announced that they will eliminate Wrestling from the Summer Olympics by 2020. Insane. One of the original Olympic sports, and one practiced by nearly all nations in the world, regardless of wealth. Horrible.

i read that this morning. embarrassing.

Have you ever watched wrestling? If not, let me be the first to break it to you: it's NOT real. everything's done from a script.

Maybe they should have a "best Vaudeville act summer/winter" in wrestling's place.

Ps: nobody watches wrestling.

I do.

Puerto Rico, a small "nation," won two medals in wrestling last Olympics, and it was the BIGGEST DAMN THING MAN!

I for one am not that upset that watching a pseudo-homoerotic "sport" has been eliminated, especially with all the X-Games sports taking over the Olympics, its a different vibe. The question is will they ever adopt the Danny Way "invent the most extreme way to almost kill yourself on a skateboard" events like dropping out of a helicopter or clearing a 65 foot gap in a ramp to ramp ;)

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fuck the x-games. that shit is pure marketing nonsense.

Wrestling is one of the oldest sports there is, it is universal, and it has been a part of the old olympics and the modern olympics.

Fucking Trampoline is in the Olympics but not wrestling? FUCK THE X GAMES

Yes, we know why you watch it

It's ok to objectify gays then. The war is over. You won.

If that is what you think I was doing then fine, go ahead and invent a victimization complex here. I was just joking with you, I didn't call it "gay" as an insult, I just called out the obvious, two men in tight fitting clothes grappling and heaving against each other is as admittedly suggestively homoerotic as an tower is a phallic symbol for women. Even those ancient Greeks who invented Grecco-Roman style wrestling were completely comfortable with homosexuality in athletics (unlike certain 49er players ) Jesus, what, are you going to knox slander and strawman me too? I was JOKING. Get over it ;)


No, I agree, fuck the X-games and all its hype machinery, but I agree completely with adding events like street skating and snowboarding like they have BMX. I used to street skate, it is a seriously athletic sport and professional level craft. Further, it is increasingly popular worldwide. I'd be willing to wager that there are WAY more youth seriously skateboarding at a professional level than there are wrestling or any of a dozen other "Olypmic" events.

Skateboarding is not only NOT a crime, but it is most definitely a professional grade sport and should be in the Olympics, which I understand it may by 2020, which I support. As to wrestling, I really have no opinion, I was being facetious yo

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pederastas are soooo boring.

Meh.. you are free to project whatever you'd like on me, the internet is like that, it supports and embraces fantasy. Now if you'd like to join me in reality and realize we could be friends if you didn't have such an unnecessarily shit opinion of me,well than, perhaps then you'd realize again, that I was fucking JOKING with you. When you discriminate against people because of your misperceptions of what is their culture or religion, then you are no different than what you mistakenly accuse me of if. Now can we get back to a discussion of the Olympics, there will only ever be one knox on the forum to exaggerate, straw-man, and hyperbolize around here, and it certainly ain't you honey ;)

Cmon now Suchy, its not fair to take that tone.

I used to skate too, and I love BMX, and skating and such, but I do not see them as sports worthy of an Olympic competition. They are added solely to increase ratings an to sell tickets at the venues.

Don't call me honey, please.

What tone is that exactly? What we can joke about heterosexuality but not homosexuality now? Can we even joke about sexuality at all? Perhaps we should have nothing but Frederick Douglass serious discussions eh? Yeah, because Genteel Death is NOTORIOUS for being so damned respectable, polite, and serious on the forum all the time ;)

My tone was completely facetious and joking, as much as if someone suggested banning Kim Kardashean to Rob and I joked about large derriere. There is a difference between objectifying and acknowledging. Kim likes her behind, she likes men to like her behind, Rob is a fan. I am sure that many gay wrestlers would like Genteel Death's attention, hence my joking about it. I am the Orthodox Christian (we make Catholicism seem like hedonism) and y'all are the ones who are prudishly uptight about homosexuality here? HAHAHA, that is comedy at a Shakespearean level. I'm gonna go laugh it up with all my gay folks in the community, and y'all can stew in your self-created indignation, and maybe in the bottom of that sulking find a sense of humor?

what do you rasta boyz do in your spare time anyway?

Open up a Transworld, check out kids 360 flipping FIFTEEN stairs for free shoes as amateurs and say its NOT Olympic caliber? In my day, when Daewon Song first kickflipped off a roof we were like WTF!! Now, kids do that for FUN! FOR FUN!!

Dude, seriously. Skateboarding has evolved to something so insanely athletic, something so aeronautically spetacular, something to technically precise, and something so visually impressive that is NEEDS to be in the Olympics. I think it would simply BLOW peoples' minds to see what kids can do today with a Skateboard, its not exactly what it used to be.

Probably the same things you do, chill out after work and listen to records, go to dances, go to spiritual gatherings with family and friends, celebrate life, have a good time, even burn a little collie herbs. What do you do in your spare time? Maybe we can chill at the pub and reason.

I dont think you were objectifying genteel_death, whom i dont take seriously for a number of reasons that are of no interest to anyone, but if the best response you have to a gay man is "Well we know why YOU watch it" then your "humour" is about as sophisticated as The Merry Old Wives of Windsor (Yes, i can reference Shakespeare too).

Crude yes, but spiteful? No. I'm not going to drag out some kind of self-aggrandizing defense, I said what I said, folks who know will know, folks who don't won't, and therefore it is what is. I know where I stand in the world and if others don't I can't persuade them otherwise if they've already made their own prejudiced opinions based off my known religion and culture. Now can we get back to the Olympics or skateboarding rather then let this devolve into some kind hyperbole saturated tirade. If folks want to know why the forum is dying, its because everybody is either so damned serious all the time (myself included) or the opposite, but rarely do we talk about music any more or sonic youth anymore. Is there another SonicYouth forum I can join?

I dont think youre guilty of lowering the tone on here in general actually, there are far worse culprits than you who arent capable of a discussion, hence why i maybe felt it was ok to point it out. And as i sided with Knox when i felt there were stupid things said, i would feel like a bit of a hypocrite if i didnt side with Porky if something stupid is said as well.
Or would you prefer i posted some gratuitous pornography instead?

Edit: And also, i think im arguing with YOU in particular, why do you assume that there are swathes of people being put off posting who all see things the same way as you do?

So you are selective in your defense of objectification? How hypocritical. I knew you weren't to be trusted as an individual, but now it's so transparent you only align with the oppressed in order to make yourself feel better. Disgusted.

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In fairness, when ive said "I dont think you were objectifying Genteel_Death" there, I was responding to Suchy's other post, and that doesnt explain what i mean in full. It was an objectifying thing to say, and I did have a go at him for making that cheap jibe at you, I wouldnt have chimed in if i didnt think there was something crass about it. So all past grievances aside, that was a clarification that I should have made

you are naive because you can't tell when a person is being serious or not.

worse still, you can't tell when someone is being a liar, if you read suchfriends' posts better.

See above

Too Late The Ikara Cult. Too Late. We Can't Tolerate It Anymore.

I don;t consider it an authentic competitive sport. skating is about feel, and attitude, and style, and that is more of an arts competition, not an athletic competition. I don't think ballroom dancing, for all it's athleticism, is a sport either. Just because competitions are held does not make it a sport.
There has to be a real quantifiable measure of competition. This is why I think events that are judged by a panel should not be in the Olympics. That includes diving, gymnastics, and ice skating. The corruption is rampant, and there is no verifiable way to tell who won or who lost.

In high jump, whoever jumps highest wins. In discus, whoevere throws farthest wins. In wrestling, whoevere pins the other one first wins. in racing, whoever finishes first wins. These are quantifiable measures. while I love to see good diving, and good gymnastics, I find the model for competition very lacking. the same is true for skating events, except maybe for the "biggest air" competition.


skateboarding competitions are, and you know this, fake events designed to promote the culture and sell product.

The Olympics have goddamn TRAMPOLINE as an event! and now no wrestling!

Darts clearly needs to replace it. Now there's a mans sport.

Well fair enough. I felt a cheap point had been made, and even though it was made against you, i felt it merited responding to. You pointed out that i said something inconsistent in my responding to it, and im happy to acknowledge you were right. You wanna frame that and put it on the mantlepiece, more power to you.

Why do you not just admit you pontificate on political issues just because of personal sympathies and be done with it? Honestly, I'd have more respect for you if you did.

Also, look at this website: http://stuffwhitebritslike.co.uk/

You are there, somewhere.

and which personal sympathies are these?

Why are you asking me of all people?

Because you just said you know the basis of my opinions.