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Alex's Trip 12.19.2006 10:14 PM

Parents.
 
Yeah, well my mom has looked at my myspace messages because I had left myspace signed in. She told me. That in itself is pretty messed up. But then my mom went on to say something like this: "Don't think we don't know about programs that record everything you do on there." Now, I don't know if she was being serious or not, but there are certain things I'd rather not have them know about me (notice how I've changed my custom text).

What do you think about these obvious invasions of privacy? How would you react? Do you think it is okay for parents to do this to their children?

And...How would I know if my parents use a certain program to record all the crap that goes down on my computer? I went through my programs list and removed a couple that I don't know what they do, but I imagine it'd probably hide itself somehow and that it isn't that simple.

There is a fine line between good parenting and being really fucking controlling that my parents crossed a long time ago.

Edit: You wouldn't do this to you're kids would you, Kegmama or Gmku?

Sonic Youth 37 12.19.2006 10:17 PM

Rule #1
Always Always Always Make sure you sign out

Rule #2
Different passwords for everything

Alex's Trip 12.19.2006 10:21 PM

Right now, I have a solution. I created an account password, and since this is the only account on the computer they won't be able to access it. Once they find out that I have a password (if they are actually spying on me), they'll either confront me, and I'll know that they were spying on me, or they'll do nothing which is what I want.

Sonic Youth 37 12.19.2006 10:22 PM

Good idea.

Better_Than_You 12.19.2006 10:23 PM

[quote=Alex's Trip]
What do you think about these obvious invasions of privacy? How would you react? Do you think it is okay for parents to do this to their children?

[quote]

First questions answer:

I flip out when my parents go into my room to hang up clothes, I would be fucking pissed out of my mind.

Second questions answer:

I would probably leave ridiculous things for them to find, or write messages for them on myspace like 'Mom, you're being dumb. Trust me, I've been a good kid for the last 6 months, lay off.'

Third questions answer:

It honestly depends. Have you been naughty or nice lately?

Inhuman 12.19.2006 10:24 PM

I know exactly what you mean. My parents recently looked through my "my pictures" folder and found party pictures hosted at my place that they had not known about. They look through my room often enough as well.

I would reccomend that you sign out of SY gossip too, in case they by some slim chance find the "so yeah..." thread. Or do they know? Parents can be terrible, terrible people when it comes to curiousity. They usually want to know everything that's going on in your life especially since you're an adolescent, where a lot of problems can arise. It's really up to them to decide whether it's morally right to do that or not. Parent's can really be annoying sometimes, I know.

I'm going towrite a more elaborate response in regards to this tomorrow when I have more INTERNET TIME because my parents shut the modem off.

ALIEN ANAL 12.19.2006 10:24 PM

i think it depends on the kids age, but 15 maybe just old enough to not have to have your parents watch you on the internet.

Better_Than_You 12.19.2006 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
Right now, I have a solution. I created an account password, and since this is the only account on the computer they won't be able to access it. Once they find out that I have a password (if they are actually spying on me), they'll either confront me, and I'll know that they were spying on me, or they'll do nothing which is what I want.


You are much more clever than me.

ALIEN ANAL 12.19.2006 10:26 PM

Hah yeh im exactly the same, i wont allow my folks to enter my room.
[quote=Better_Than_You]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip


First questions answer:

I flip out when my parents go into my room to hang up clothes, I would be fucking pissed out of my mind.



Inhuman 12.19.2006 10:26 PM

[quote=Better_Than_You][quote=Alex's Trip]
What do you think about these obvious invasions of privacy? How would you react? Do you think it is okay for parents to do this to their children?

Quote:


I would probably leave ridiculous things for them to find, or write messages for them on myspace like 'Mom, you're being dumb. Trust me, I've been a good kid for the last 6 months, lay off.'


This is one that I decied to take up. Since they browse through my pictures files, I decided to photoshop a picture of my stepdad smoking a joint in the family room. I live in a VERY conservative household, so she'd be shocked.

Norma J 12.19.2006 10:26 PM

A big fuck you to Alex's Trips mom.

Better_Than_You 12.19.2006 10:28 PM

[quote=Inhuman][quote=Better_Than_You]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
What do you think about these obvious invasions of privacy? How would you react? Do you think it is okay for parents to do this to their children?



This is one that I decied to take up. Since they browse through my pictures files, I decided to photoshop a picture of my stepdad smoking a joint in the family room. I live in a VERY conservative household, so she'd be shocked.


HAHAHA! Thats pretty darn funny. I'm repping you. Please, post it.

Better_Than_You 12.19.2006 10:29 PM

wtf?


It won't let me. I guess I rep you too much.

Alex's Trip 12.19.2006 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
A big fuck you to Alex's Trips mom.

Haha. Part of me really wants her to read that.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman
I would reccomend that you sign out of SY gossip too, in case they by some slim chance find the "so yeah..." thread. Or do they know?

They don't know, and that is really the only thing that worries me. I wouldn't be as angry if I didn't have anything to hide. Part of me thinks they might now, but just won't tell me.

Norma J 12.19.2006 10:42 PM

I was lucky and gifted with parents who are cool.

Better_Than_You 12.19.2006 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
I was lucky and gifted with parents who are cool.


I 50% second that.

ALIEN ANAL 12.19.2006 10:44 PM

yeh my folks are pretty rad too, they rarely nag, and dont tell us to do much.
But my mom is way overprotective and mommys us to much its frustrating.

Inhuman 12.19.2006 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
I was lucky and gifted with parents who are cool.


I nearly had that! But now with my stepdad everything's terrible. My brother and I get in shit for offering him lunch.

Norma J 12.19.2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL
yeh my folks are pretty rad too, they rarely nag, and dont tell us to do much.
But my mom is way overprotective and mommys us to much its frustrating.


It must be an Australian thing.

Norma J 12.19.2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman
I nearly had that! But now with my stepdad everything's terrible. My brother and I get in shit for offering him lunch.


Mind games, my man. Mind games.

Or just dont offer him lunch. Ha.

thewall91 12.19.2006 10:49 PM

 


You know parents are the same
No matter time nor place
They don't understand that us kids
Are going to make some mistakes
So to you, all the kids all across the land
There's no need to argue
Parents just don't understand!

Inhuman 12.19.2006 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
Mind games, my man. Mind games.

Or just dont offer him lunch. Ha.


haha, we barely talk to him anymore. He's on all sorts of medication because he has diabetes and severe stomach problems, and the medication causes heavy mood swings, and he's ALWAYS pissed off and frequently talks about how "life sucks" and how we should get used to it. He reminds me of a 55 year old emo kid.

Alex's Trip 12.19.2006 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thewall91
 


You know parents are the same
No matter time nor place
They don't understand that us kids
Are going to make some mistakes
So to you, all the kids all across the land
There's no need to argue
Parents just don't understand!

I've never made any mistakes though! I've never done drugs, I always get staright A's, I enjoy reading. Not to be a concieted ass, but some parents would love to have a kid like me. "It isn't that we don't trust you, we just don't trust everyone else." Bullshit. I'm not stupid. They know I'm not stupid. I can fucking take care of myself on the internet (the internet of all places!) and they know it. They just want in on my life more than I let them, and I let them in on my life a hell of a lot.

Norma J 12.19.2006 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I've never made any mistakes though! I've never done drugs, I always get staright A's, I enjoy reading. Not to be a concieted ass, but some parents would love to have a kid like me. "It isn't that we don't trust you, we just don't trust everyone else." Bullshit. I'm not stupid. They know I'm not stupid. I can fucking take care of myself on the internet (the internet of all places!) and they know it. They just want in on my life more than I let them, and I let them in on my life a hell of a lot.


Well there's your problem right there. You didn't act dumb enough as a kid. Their level of expectations for you are too high.

Norma J 12.19.2006 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman
haha, we barely talk to him anymore. He's on all sorts of medication because he has diabetes and severe stomach problems, and the medication causes heavy mood swings, and he's ALWAYS pissed off and frequently talks about how "life sucks" and how we should get used to it. He reminds me of a 55 year old emo kid.


And your mom sticks with him? Just have a chat over a beer with him. He'll losen up and then you get beer.

Alex's Trip 12.19.2006 10:58 PM

But if I never did anything wrong in the first place, why would they have to resort to reading my personal stuff online? Just to get in on my life? That is not good parenting at all. If they wanted to be on my life more, maybe they should have made me comfortable being around them rather than being angry at me for getting a B on an assignment in class that I had an A in.:rolleyes:

Better_Than_You 12.19.2006 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
"It isn't that we don't trust you, we just don't trust everyone else."


ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGG don't get me started on that.

Although, they're usually right 40% of the time about the people I hang out with.

ALIEN ANAL 12.19.2006 10:59 PM

haha yeh, the chat over a beer always works.

thewall91 12.19.2006 11:00 PM

parents do a lot of shady things. my mom once tricked me by telling me she had a video camera on me and a boyfriend when she wasn't home and that she was going to show my dad. i begged her not to, so she knew we'd been naughty. she was lying. i told the boyfriend, who refused to come over and we broke up soon after. he was a weasel and i was better off without him. she also read my diary, something i'm sure most (smart) parents do. honestly, you should actually be happy that your parents care. It seems like it sucks, and it does right now, but they love you. that's probably why you are the good kid that you are.

now link to the video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0dCVwdedE

Inhuman 12.19.2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I've never made any mistakes though! I've never done drugs, I always get staright A's, I enjoy reading. Not to be a concieted ass, but some parents would love to have a kid like me. "It isn't that we don't trust you, we just don't trust everyone else." Bullshit. I'm not stupid. They know I'm not stupid. I can fucking take care of myself on the internet (the internet of all places!) and they know it. They just want in on my life more than I let them, and I let them in on my life a hell of a lot.


My parents are honest about it and just flat out say "I don't trust you" and I reply "I don't trust you either". I really find it hard to trust parents when you let them in on things and they go snooping around for more.

Norma J 12.19.2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
But if I never did anything wrong in the first place, why would they have to resort to reading my personal stuff online? Just to get in on my life? That is not good parenting at all. If they wanted to be on my life more, maybe they should have made me comfortable being around them rather than being angry at me for getting a B on an assignment in class that I had an A in.:rolleyes:


I don't deny your parents suck. They appear way too controlling.

ALIEN ANAL 12.19.2006 11:03 PM

The chat over a beer is so true, but i wont be doing it, my dad is an alco and i dont want to make him think ill be drinking with him, encourraging him to drink.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
And your mom sticks with him? Just have a chat over a beer with him. He'll losen up and then you get beer.


Norma J 12.19.2006 11:04 PM

Every Australian dad is an alco though. I know doubt will be the same. But I see your point too.

Alex's Trip 12.19.2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thewall91
honestly, you should actually be happy that your parents care. It seems like it sucks, and it does right now, but they love you. that's probably why you are the good kid that you are.

And that is where the teen angst blinds me...

Norma J 12.19.2006 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
And that is where the teen angst blinds me...


It's just a fad part of the teenage angst brigade...

Inhuman 12.19.2006 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
And your mom sticks with him? Just have a chat over a beer with him. He'll losen up and then you get beer.


He's all she has. When my mom re-married to him, she was unemployed, had 3 children to feed (me and two brothers), and was single for a year so she really needed to get with somebody fast. Other than the financial aspects, I don't understand why she stands up to him. She challenges some of things that he says though (like the lunch thing I described), but it's rare.

As for the beer, he questions me for about 10 minutes about the beer whenever I'm in posession of a bottle, and plus I'm legal age.

"what's that?"
me: a beer
"where did you get it?"
me: I bought it
"why did you buy it?"
me: Because I like it maybe?
*yelling* You're low on money, you're going to start paying rent

But really, I don't like complaining about my parents. It makes me feel self derogatory and juvenile

Norma J 12.19.2006 11:12 PM

What's the legal age for alcohol consumption in the land of the red mapleleaf?

Inhuman 12.19.2006 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Norma J
What's the legal age for alcohol consumption in the land of the red mapleleaf?


hahaha, I like how you put that. 19 in Ontario and 18 everywhere else. I actually don't live in Ottawa, but 2km north on the Quebec side, so I'm legal :)

Norma J 12.19.2006 11:17 PM

It's 18 here too.

21 in the USA to buy a beer, but 18 to buy a gun. That always seemed rather fucking stupid to me.

schizophrenicroom 12.19.2006 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I've never made any mistakes though! I've never done drugs, I always get staright A's, I enjoy reading. Not to be a concieted ass, but some parents would love to have a kid like me. "It isn't that we don't trust you, we just don't trust everyone else." Bullshit. I'm not stupid. They know I'm not stupid. I can fucking take care of myself on the internet (the internet of all places!) and they know it. They just want in on my life more than I let them, and I let them in on my life a hell of a lot.


i've made a few small mistakes, but my parents are basically like that. not that they're perfect. they've been divorced for a while now and they really loathe eachother, and use me as a messenger to send their vitriolic one-liners back and forth (though i never do send them). plus, my dad is kind of mildly autistic and bipolar and there's a lot of fun stuff that goes along with that.

alex- confront them.


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