ANONYMOUS leaks NSA documents
 

http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-le...ium=socialflow

The NSA has been sharing their metadata with foreign governments. The One World Government is already here and we are coming late to the party.

what is bad about the idea (its only an idea) of a one world government? i mean apart from idiotic biblical fantasies of the tower of babel.

I have always thought a one world government is inevitable, but what we are now living under is a one-world SHADOW government, created and run purely for the benefit of the most rich and the most powerful families in the world, while they spend what is a pittance to them to convince the rest of us that there still exist nations separate from each other.

NY Times - "Obama Administration has lost all credibility"......talk about being a day late and a dollar short.

The annoying thing is what can the "regular" people do about it? The governments may stop it, only for it then to carry on under a different name (as has already with this). I'd like to see a revolution as 6th form student that sounds and actually see people pissed off. However, apathy is becoming a bigger problem these days.

No one cares because the new XBOX will keep full on Big Brother surveillance on us.

The government can use any smartphone as a "bug" even if it is powered off. They could only do that with the explicit collaboration of the TelCom companies. One rich fuck scratches the back of another....

Yeah having a camera on you all the time, whether it be on the Kinetic for the XBox or the webcam on your laptop, has always seemed a bit too 1984 for my liking.

its funny cos if they didnt check your phone records and thus let terrorist attacks slip through you'd just blame them for staging a false flag attack.

We have to take their word, (the word of the same FUCKS who lie to us on the REG) that they have stopped terror attacks, or prevented terror attacks.
Yet two bros from Chechnya can set off bombs at the biggest marathon in the country.
The entire nation needs to re-read 1984.

so the government is not powerful enough to stop 2 guys bombing a marathon. and you are angry at the government trying to extend its power to stop terrorists.

also there is noone alive and in power today in the us who actually wants to impose the kind of order featured in the novel 1984.

they have had these "powers" since 2007, dig?

You don't know the mind of the super-rich, super-educated sociopath out for world domination. They really do exist.

neither do you, because you are fantasizing. world domination? give me a fucking break!

but ahh. fuck this. i dont even care. sick of pointing out how stupid and ill informed this paranoia is. you can all battle your imagination. ill just keep working towards that nwo pay cheque.

So you're happy that all this information can be given to governments so easily? I've said many times on here I don't buy into conspiracies involving government created bombings etc, but the evidence of this is there for all to see.

That collaboration might not willing. Big Government has big sticks it can use to force cooperation; IRS, FBI, EPA etc.

This "one-world" government has always existed, it just changes shape and form as it evolves and devolves cyclically across time. The Fathers observed this power as "Satan" and believe it a spiritual entity and direct power. However, from the atheistic perspective, we can call this a Jungian archetype for the negative, selfish, and violent tendency in the human psyche which we all infinitely possess. This force drives and compels humans in a weird, centripetal yet conversely centrifugal direction. We are brought together in our mutual selfishness to do harm, and yet this very behavior is self-destructive and pushes individuals away. Again, the Fathers attribute this to a negative spiritual entity, but for the sake of argument, we can assume these demons are our own. They have always been there. In Egypt. In Babylon. In Alexander's Macedon. In Rome. In Byzantium. In the Holy Roman Empire. In the United Kingdom. In our post-modern American empire. Its all the same shit. The same negative forces compel humans towards selfish lusts for power, and this action interconnects many in a chain. This chain leads directly to death, as attested to the 200,000,000 deaths in the past hundred years of war. Imagine that, TWO HUNDRED MILLION deaths. Sad. Whether its the Devil, or just ourselves, either way, we have to manifest positive energy against this self-destruction, only love can save us, and this selfish lust for power will always try to destroy.

Its not paranoia. Its critical thinking, asking questions, not being a fucking sheep. Sure there are crazy stupid conspiracy theories out there but when it has to do with the government and the rich, that shits obvious. Do you really think people who know they are true are stupid? I mean take Rob, for example, hes definately not a dumbass. I'd say hes pretty intelligent. There's also a bunch of PHD fucks and former high ranking goverenment officials who have spoken.

And don't forget that throughout history, time ant time again, people have been more willing to give up their rights during times of fear. There is even proof of governments staging events to cause mass fear.

well, at least its credibility lasted more than dubya's, which was a stillborn after the florida theft election.

but shit is shit, regardless of party affiliation.


what is bad is the lack of options. no place to run, literally or metaphorically. imagine heading south for a thousand miles and all you'd find is northern ireland.

nah. because you'd have another group of people vying to take control. all power structures create an outer circle of people wanting to take their place.

right, but there are different games with different rules. just like in nature different ecosystems organize themselves while keeping similar niches (nitrogen fixers, herbivores, prey, predators, scavengers, parasites, etc).

monocultures suck.

well humanity is a monoculture if you want to look at it like that.

of course we're moving towards homogenization, but we're not there yet completely, no.

travel a little while it still matters.

it's going to get worse.

can i travel to somewhere where i never have to hear your condescending advice to travel again?

just pack your soylent and start hitchhiking the fuck out of that hellhole. ps- for someone with no self, your ego gets wounded easily (and neither this, nor that, was meant condescendingly).

all roads lead to nowhere.

and i just dont need constant advice about my personal life after each post i make. if you are so interested then ask me about it by pm or something.

i'm not interested in an exchange abput personal lives here, i'm just responding to your ideas as somewhat of a perspectivist myself, e.g., kant wrote the way he did because he wrote while sitting down. etc. since in this kind of discussion there's no scientific objectivity (goodbye big narratives), personal bias must be taken into account.

and so, from what i've experienced first-hand, while 95% of human traits are obviously universal, we still have a bit left of "cultural diversity" on the planet, and it's worth witnessing and protecting it while we can (just like the fucking rainforests, etc.). i understand it if you haven't seen/lived such apparent chimeras, but they nevertheless exist and are worth knowing. and so, along those lines, the question of local vs. centralized decision-making is a politically and economically relevant one.

this all goes back to the issue of "what's wrong with a world government" (modernity vs post-modernity, if you will). potentially, a lot. and i'm not talking about alien lizard-people. i'm talking about the universal reproduction of america (so far, germans hate walmart greeters, thank fuck), or some bureaucrat in belgium deciding what sort of crops a subsaharan farmer should grow.

brah, kant may have written sitting down but he took the same walk at the same time in the same place every single day of his life.

brahbrah, haven't you read baudrillards take on native american reservations in simulation and simulacra?


read page 7, Rameses, or the rosy coloured resurrection. it makes it look like your protectionism of cultural diversity may in fact just be a more potent form of destruction.

also bizarre that you would equate one world government with loss of cultural diversity, because if anything a one world government would be more interested in preserving specific cultural heritages in order to prove its inclusiveness.

and a sub saharan farmer is gonna sell whatever crops he can sell, which means his decision will be based on what will be consumed by people in other countries. that isn't tyranny, thats an integrated global system were he has the option to sell abroad thanks to transport technology. aint nothing wrong with that.

and ameribrah, please will you and all the other ameribros stop flattering yourselves that you're in any position to form a one world government. please. this isn't 1998. ni hao motherfucker. stop shooting pistols in the air and dancing on the spot for a second, then you might hear the sound of a hundred doors closing and foreign diplomats whispering 'yes... china... new reserve currency... yes... i agree... the dollars day is over... yes..."

can also confirm that, in fact, the rest of the world FUCKING APED america due to its own wish to be like it. the height of this was the 90's when everyone was baffled that your free market fundamentalism seemed to be working so well and we all started making malls and copying your mannerisms cos it seemed like you had the secret. it wasn't cultural imperialism (except for the countries you invaded/staged coups in to steal resources from) it was a enthusiastic imitation. we sold our centuries of proud heritage for a greasy big mac, and it was so worth it, as we die in the gutter from diabesity we raise our pudgy fists in the air and gurgle 'FREEDUMB!'. our sagging, cholesterol clogged eyelids close for the last time a bald eagle flies past, waiting to consume our rancid flesh as our heart beats its last beat and we take our final breath.

One aspect of American culture I think you could stand to benefit from is the trend to over-medicate.

brah, i'm just mentally chill.

deal with it.

i know this. i was just exemplifying. let me be less subtle then and address you: if you look at the world only from your own bedroom terminal you're going to miss a lot of nuance. sense-data and face-to-face human interaction cannot be replaced by theory written by a handful of male, white, european tenured professors and the hand-picked minority colleagues they endorse.


like this, for example. i haven't read that, not yet anyway, but reservations have a long and complex chapter in the history of native extermination and apartheid by anglo invaders (the iberian invaders interfucked and created complex caste systems instead). and yes these places are potent forms of destruction but that doesn't mean they can't be appropriated by their occupants in different ways-- and i'm writing you from an actual native american reservation right now. but you can't summarize all this in one line though. come over and smell it for yourself.

but regardless, reservations were not created by self-determination, they were imposed by a foreign/ central (federal) government upon the people they intended to control. even today, indian reservations are under the supervision of the federal government, and the struggle for self-determination is ongoing.


a single government wouldn't necessarily have to prove anything to anyone because they could theoretically afford to do their bidding unchallenged. again, we go back to the problem of remote control vs. local decision making-- just like free markets aren't perfect but are more efficient than planned economies, free societies tend to thrive vs. those ordained by supreme soviets & the u.s. department of the interior and the like.

now, i wouldn't be opposed to some sort of federated pact of non-aggression based around something like the universal declarationof human rights, but coming from a long line of nomadic peoples i'll always want a place to run away from my problems (some fights aren't worth fighting as you know). the perpetuation of social and cultural diversity ensures that one can always "get the fuck out of the country".


that's not what i'm saying. i created a hypothetical example of central planning ("we'll need 100,000 new pairs of shoes next year").


im not saying the u.s. will create a world government, but i am fucking terrified of china creating one precisely because of their centralized, top-down, authoritarian approach to government. however, china isn't quite a superpower just yet. they have a lot of challenges ahead.


yeah that was a sad spectacle, ha ha ha.

anyway, the imitation of 'merica isn't america itself though. again, you don't get everything from books/tv/the internet. and i know i sound tiresome with this but for someone so preoccupied with ameribrahland you should come and visit, see for yourself, meet different kinds of people (a la borat), and you'll realize that while there is a large and obnoxious mainstream of american culture (ever watched the "today" show for breakfast? vomit...) there are also a myriad subcultures and a large underground at work, and part of the reason they exist is because the federal vs. state vs. local power struggles that remain at the core of american politics allow them to exist (there are a lot of "in-between" spaces to inhabit). this is a lot more complex in real experience than what reductionist approaches will show you through your bedroom window though, dr. faust.

“What we disclosed is that the American government is surveilling its own citizens, people who are suspected of no wrongdoing,” he went on. “The only thing that has been damaged here is not national security. What has been damaged is the reputation and credibility of the political officials who want to hide behind top secret designations to conceal their own wrongdoing, and that’s really what they’re angry about.”- Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald

Makes me wonder what sort of wrongdoings I, as a Dutchman, am suspected of by the NSA.

From what I've been reading, the NSA/PRISM is geared to assigning a threat matrix value to EVERYONE.

Wait, did you honestly think anybody wasn't on the list?

Being Dutch probably.

NY Times reporting today ALL U.S. mail sender/addressee gets scanned and recorded.

Morales forced to land in Austria, home of legacy nazi's, tells me the global nazi ring has becomie active.

Who is running the bug in the Ecuadorian embassy?

Funny how the crimes described by Snowden just aren't being discussed, all that matters in the MSM and Congress is where is he and how soon can we torture him?

Fuck all them assholes.

Every "real" news site is devoting more story and space to what kind of satan baby is gonna come out of Pippa Middleton's cooch-hole than what is happeing in Egypt.

mass rapes, women assaulted in the streets, all because them fucking idiots want "freedom" but they also want to maintain the patriarchal subjugation of women.

women make up over 52% of the population. they need to fucking take over again, and slap the tiny-dicked leaders of men down with a quickness.

Well that's good, because nobody uses the mail anymore but Netflix and Amazon.com ;)

Who said they weren't already?

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