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SynthethicalY 01.11.2007 10:26 PM

AM I missing something, by not being interested in My Bloody Valentine?
 
I've heard one album, can't remember what it was. But I was not all that interested. Do I have to relisten to it?

EMMAh 01.11.2007 10:31 PM

I've been wondering the same thing.

pokkeherrie 01.11.2007 10:33 PM

maybe... when i first listened to an album of theirs ("isn't anything") in a record shop about 12 years ago i didn't like it at all. then a few years later i heard "loveless" and i've loved that ever since... and "isn't anything" too.

loveless is one of those rare albums i never really play anymore these days but whenever i do listen to it it's pure bliss... i found that out again last month when i heard it somewhere.

the ikara cult 01.11.2007 10:37 PM

Well ive never really liked Loveless, ive always felt like its one of those albums that youre supposed to take drugs to, like Screamadelica or Forever Changes. Although the first and last songs are truly brilliant. I think Isnt Anything is much better.

HaydenAsche 01.11.2007 11:13 PM

I found loveless to be piss-awful. Sorry.

Inhuman 01.11.2007 11:17 PM

All this talk about MBV makes me wanna listen to them. I'm going to put on Isn't Anything. Soft as snow is a great song. And I'm with hayden on the loveless part, I still don't fancy it at all in comparison to Isn't Anything

the ikara cult 01.11.2007 11:24 PM

yeah Isnt Anything is faultless from start to Finish, get that.

SynthethicalY 01.11.2007 11:26 PM

That's the one I've heard loveless.

soapbars 01.11.2007 11:28 PM

isnt anything is miles better than loveless, but loveless is still a great album, if you dont like them yet, maybe you wont ever like them, maybe you should try listening to them under the influence of your favourite substance or just give them some time and try listening to them again in a year or something.

SynthethicalY 01.11.2007 11:30 PM

I don't do drugs.

HaydenAsche 01.11.2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
I don't do drugs.


*yawn*

SynthethicalY 01.11.2007 11:36 PM

No, I just don't care for them. I mean I have tried them, but I am hypersensitive, and that just screws me over.

touch me i'm sick 01.12.2007 12:02 AM

i feel like MBV is sort of an acquired taste. loveless is better...

davenotdead 01.12.2007 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
No, I just don't care for them. I mean I have tried them, but I am hypersensitive, and that just screws me over.


dont feel like you need to explain yourself to hayden...he isnt a god, he has no supernatural powers.


ps-loveless & isnt anything are brilliant...

soapbars 01.12.2007 12:37 AM

if you can id recommend getting a copy of ecstacy and wine, its a mixture of two earlier eps (ecstacy and strawberry wine) its great though and really helps show the band developing from the birthday party rip off band they were for this is your... into a byrds style folk band into what they became.

ni'k 01.12.2007 12:41 AM

download - Slow
You Made Me Realise

and if that doesnt work give up on them. i can give you those tracks if you want them

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 01.12.2007 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
I've heard one album, can't remember what it was. But I was not all that interested. Do I have to relisten to it?


I recall I didn't really like My Bloody Valentine all too much when I first started listening to them.

You don't need drugs to listen to My Bloody Valentine. The album Loveless is enough of a trip in itself.

I consider Loveless to be "crashing after a really fun night or a party" sort of music.

jon boy 01.12.2007 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama
Listen to them again- yes. MBV are an acquired taste. And you generally have to have good taste to like them.


haha i did like loveless but have not heard a huge amount of other stuff.

sonicl 01.12.2007 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama
Listen to them again- yes. MBV are an acquired taste. And you generally have to have good taste to like them.

But you don't necessarily have to like them in order to qualify for having good taste, I hope?

Pookie 01.12.2007 09:37 AM

Just to state the obvious: don't bother trying if you don't like them.

Join the club.

They're not terrible, but nothing to get excited about.

sun city girl 01.12.2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
But you don't necessarily have to like them in order to qualify for having good taste, I hope?

i don't think you can have good taste if you don't LOVE my bloody valentine... and yeah, isn't anything is better than loveless, and ecstasy and wine used to be my fave lp from them. maybe the best records are the ep's 'you made me realise' and 'tremolo'.

as for the drugs, you don't need drugs to like them, their music is the drug.

sonicl 01.12.2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sun city girl
i don't think you can have good taste if you don't LOVE my bloody valentine...

And to think I thought you were a nice person!?!?

sun city girl 01.12.2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
And to think I thought you were a nice person!?!?

lol

cryptowonderdruginvogue 01.12.2007 10:21 AM

their music is so pretty and heavy, yet soft
i just dont understand how people cant like them.

i mean, i can
but they're just so good.

Rob Instigator 01.12.2007 10:27 AM

Loveless is a fucking MASTERPIECE. Isn;t anything is great but it is like slint's tweeze versus spiderland. the fruition comes from the second album.

I resisted loveless for so long, because all these pussy fucks gushed about MBV, but I bought it and love it and I can listen to it anytime and it is flawless and perfect straight through,.

Isn;t anything is genius good also.

loveless is like daydream nation, a amsterpiece so innovative that it shapes things afterwards and the innivation is forgotten.

sun city girl 01.12.2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
loveless is like daydream nation, a amsterpiece so innovative that it shapes things afterwards and the innivation is forgotten.

maybe you're right, but then isn't anything is sister... guess which one is my fave?

porkmarras 01.12.2007 10:31 AM

They were a two-trick pony but 'Isn't Anything' is more viscerally emotional an album with loads of good sexual references in it.

LittlePuppetBoy 01.12.2007 01:53 PM

Both albums are great, but my fave is Loveless

Glice 01.12.2007 02:59 PM

I used to adore Loveless, less so Isn't Anything. I don't like either so much any more, thanks to playing them too much. Not a prerequisite to taste. You should probably hear them, but there's not an album made that's entirely essential (apart from the Fall's Peel sessions box set).

finding nobody 01.12.2007 03:04 PM

Loveless is just a big wall of sound that washes over your soul. It makes a freind of mine cry, some people couldn't care less about the album. I enjoy it

nomowish 01.12.2007 05:27 PM

Try listening to LOVELESS when you're half-awake.

My problem with Isn't Anything is that save for All I Need and No More Sorry, it isn't a totally specific album. And the sound's so comparatively thin that the group sounds earthbound. Yes there's more variety, but does the album feel whole for it?

And does "Cupid Come" sound like "City Girl" to anyone?

The packaging of the album's nice though, even if the overall sound of the album isn't all that blurred.

porkmarras 01.12.2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nomowish
Try listening to LOVELESS when you're half-awake. Blown a Wish, put simply, sounds like relief.

My problem with Isn't Anything is that save for All I Need and No More Sorry, it isn't a totally specific album. And the sound's so comparatively thin that the group sounds earthbound. Yes there's more variety, but does the album feel whole for it?

And does "Cupid Come" sound like "City Girl" to anyone?

The packaging of the album's nice though, even if the overall sound of the album isn't all that blurred.

What are you talking about?A totally specific album?Eh?As far as the 'thinness' you talk about,your stereo is obviously a crap one because you're missing the crunch from the sound.Are you an aspiring journalist or what?

king_buzzo 01.12.2007 05:34 PM

i just got isnt anything and 3 other ep's burnt.

theyre quite nice.

i have loveless also it rules. yes you should listen to them

compulsive diarrhea, jico 01.12.2007 05:35 PM

i dont like their name.

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i dont like their name.

says the guy who named himself compulsive diarrhea.

nomowish 01.12.2007 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
What are you talking about?A totally specific album?Eh?As far as the 'thinness' you talk about,your stereo is obviously a crap one because you're missing the crunch from the sound.Are you an aspiring journalist or what?


Specific as in Special, distinctive, or unique

Porkmarras, maybe I don't know what thin means. But after hearing Loveless the sound of IA just sounds so plain. I hear in Feed Me With Your Kiss the crunch that you're talking about though. It's the rockiest of the bunch.

Am I an aspiring journalist? I'm insulted.

Yeah, I am.

And about my stereo, yeah, it could wamp wamp more. It's so small you could cradle it. But it's been there for me during the Times, man, believe it.

Rob Instigator 01.12.2007 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nomowish
Specific as in Special, distinctive, or unique

Porkmarras, maybe I don't know what thin means. But after hearing Loveless the sound of IA just sounds so plain. I hear in Feed Me With Your Kiss the crunch that you're talking about though. It's the rockiest of the bunch.

Am I an aspiring journalist? I'm insulted.

Yeah, I am.

And about my stereo, yeah, it could wamp wamp more. It's so small you could cradle it. But it's been there for me during the Times, man, believe it.


I know exactly what you mean. Isn't anything is not cohesive like Loveless. Loveless is THICK, with shields achieving his goal of perfection in sound walls.

porkmarras 01.12.2007 06:08 PM

What's wrong with WALLS OF SOUND?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 01.12.2007 06:15 PM

I think Isn't Anything is more rocking, but Loveless is prettier (although Isn't Anything does have some very pretty moments, and Loveless does have its rocking moments)

porkmarras 01.12.2007 06:16 PM

And?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 01.12.2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
What's wrong with WALLS OF SOUND?


Nothing. Except someone well versed in the Wall of Sound might forget how wonderful a track with a lot of room and space in it can be.

Everything has its place.


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