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Gulasch Noir 05.20.2007 01:32 PM

Extreme Loudness
 
I mentioned it before at this place, words like trillion and sextillion have an huge appeal to me. They make me dizzy and I love this. I like to savour that the earth weighs 6 sextillion tons. And i also like think about the googolplex and the volume of the pacific ocean in liters. And the supposed density short after the big bang. Anyway, what I haven't explored are the extremes in loudness. Is there something like a mega or giga-decibel? Couldn't find anything. I mean 150 db is pretty loud ...

Serve my semi-arithmophobe fascination for the big numbers!

Glice 05.20.2007 03:16 PM

Kant, from what I remember, probably has the answers. Something to the effect of that art must always aspire to the sublime; something to the effect of Wagner affecting an apogee of art, or at least representing it. You can [fail to] concieve of a very large number; a very large decibelage will probably deafen you.

pokkeherrie 05.20.2007 04:33 PM

I take it you're not impressed by Spinal Tap turning their amps to 11 then?

10000 decibel is 1 kilobel and that's the biggest unit I could find with google
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/ConvBel.htm

MellySingsDoom 05.20.2007 04:48 PM

Gulasch - wenn Sie die Gefuehl der Taubheit zu erfahren wollen, hoeren Sie auf den Kopfhoeren die Schallplatte von Swans "Cop" mit vollem Lautstaerke. :D

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 05.20.2007 04:55 PM

I liek that fact that neutron starts are so dense that if brught a piece the size of a sugar cube to earth it would weigh 100 million tons.

racehorse 05.20.2007 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham
I liek that fact that neutron starts are so dense that if brught a piece the size of a sugar cube to earth it would weigh 100 million tons.

bloody hell!

terminal pharmacy 05.21.2007 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulasch Noir
I mean 150 db is pretty loud ...



If you have heard 150db at any of the db weights you shouldn't be hearing anything anymore. the loudest i have been in is 110dba at the desk, which is very very very loud. that was with a nexo line array the pa which is used alot for major rock concerts

Gulasch Noir 05.21.2007 04:35 AM

Thanks for your co-operation.

I'm not necessarily looking for noises made by human, let alone not necessarily music though. I just like to read high numbers with a scientific background. So the answer to my question (if there is any) would most probably have something to do with astronomy.

I'm not sure, if I heard 150 db, but once I induced a very loud noise in the rehearsal room, because I fucked up with the microphone or something. I think I read somewhere you are going deaf at 150db and die at 180 db. Can someone verify this?

nicfit 05.21.2007 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulasch Noir
and die at 180 db. Can someone verify this?

Instigation to suicide?

pretty basic infos here: http://www.entnet.org/healthinfo/hea...se_hearing.cfm

Gulasch Noir 05.21.2007 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham
I liek that fact that neutron starts are so dense that if brught a piece the size of a sugar cube to earth it would weigh 100 million tons.


If the earth, which weighs 6 sextillion tons (6x10^21), had the density of a supermassive black hole, it would have a diameter of 9 millimeters.

nicfit 05.21.2007 04:41 AM

this is interesting and fun
http://www.makeitlouder.com/Decibel%20Level%20Chart.txt

terminal pharmacy 05.21.2007 06:23 AM

here some numbers for those into it

190 dBA Heavy weapons, c. 10 m behind the weapon (maximum level)
180 dBA
Toy pistol fired close to ear (maximum level)
170 dBA
Slap on the ear, fire cracker explodes on shoulder, small arms at a distance of c. 50 cm (all maximum level)
160 dBA Hammer stroke on brass tubing or steel plate from 1 m distance, airbag deployment very close (30 cm - all maximum level)
150 dBA
Hammer stroke in a smithy at 5 m distance (maximum level)
130 dBA
Loud hand clapping at 1 m distance (maximum level)
120 dBA
Whistle at 1 m distance, test run of a jet at 15 m distance Threshold of pain, above this fast-acting hearing damage in short action is possible
115 dBA
Take-off sound of planes at 10 m distance 110 dBA Siren at 10 m distance, frequent sound level in discotheques and close to loudspeakers at rock concerts, violin close to the ear of an orchestra musicians (maximum level)
105 dBA
Chain saw at 1 m distance, banging car door at 1 m distance (max. level),
racing car at 40 m distance, possible level with music head phones

100 dBA Frequent level with music via head phones, jack hammer at 10 m distance
95 dBA
Loud crying, hand circular saw at 1 m distance
90 dBA
Angle grinder outside at 1 m distance Over a duration of 40 hours a week hearing damage is possible 85 dBA 2-stroke chain-saw at 10 m distance, loud WC flush at 1 m distance
80 dBA Very loud traffic noise of passing lorries at 7.5 m distance, high traffic on an expressway at 25 m distance
75 dBA Passing car at 7.5 m distance, un-silenced wood shredder at 10 m distance
70 dBA Level close to a main road by day, quiet hair dryer at 1 m distance to ear
65 dBA Bad risk of heart circulation disease at constant impact
60 dBA Noisy lawn mower at 10 m distance 55 dBA Low volume of radio or TV at 1 m distance 1 m, noisy vacuum cleaner at 10 m distance
50 dBA Refrigerator at 1 m distance, bird twitter outside at 15 m distance
45 dBA
Noise of normal living; talking, or radio in the background
40 dBA
Distraction when learning or concentration possible
35 dBA
Very quiet room fan at low speed at 1 m distance
25 dBA Sound of breathing at 1 m distance
0 dBA
Auditory threshold


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