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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.29.2008 03:07 PM

Mushrooms are a power, not a drug, and power must be yielded wisely.. discuss.
 
"Mushrooms are a power, not a drug. Like all power, they must be yielded wisely."

Mushrooms are a power, not a drug.

What are your thoughts?

Are mushrooms a power or a drug?

 

EMMAh 08.29.2008 03:08 PM

I didn't read your link.

But I think mushrooms are a drug.

afterthefact 08.29.2008 03:09 PM

I'd said a drug, but I guess as you mentioned before, it's all about what you use them for, right?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.29.2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EMMAh
I didn't read your link.

But I think mushrooms are a drug.


explain?

EMMAh 08.29.2008 03:10 PM

You take them to get a result, like you do with all other drugs.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.29.2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterthefact
I'd said a drug, but I guess as you mentioned before, it's all about what you use them for, right?


well yes and no. see, a 9mm Glock is always a pistol, regardless if you know this, or have ever seen a pistol, or know what a pistol does. And if you do not know what a pistol does, and you pick it up and shoot somebody, regardless of your knowledge, experience and intentions, you just fucking shot somebody!

so that being said, if mushrooms are a force or power in the world, then you dont have to be conscious of this fact for them to retain their powers upon consumption. They remain a power regardless of your awareness, just a pistol remains a tool of destruction even you don't intend to destroy anything at all!

Mesoamerican Mushroom Rituals

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.29.2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EMMAh
You take them to get a result, like you do with all other drugs.


the result it entirely different however, which can affect this. For example, I take Holy Communion, which is bread and wine, but through my belief, intention and prayer it is no longer wine at all, but the actual blood and body of my God Jesus Christ. It is no longer the intoxicating/drug beverage made from grapes, it is human/divine blood, actual blood, not symbolic, and this I believe with sincere conviction.

The mushrooms are the same, though they may technically get you intoxicated like Communion Wine, the belief and intention of their use shifts the defining of what they are. After all, I do not take Communion to get the drug affects of the alcohol that I am consuming at the time.

[and on a side, sonic youth moment note, when we take communion we chant "Ineffible Ineffible Ineffible Holy Trinity...' and no matter what, always, for three years now! i hear in my head hear kim sing "ineffible.."]

EMMAh 08.29.2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
the result it entirely different however, which can affect this. For example, I take Holy Communion, which is bread and wine, but through my belief, intention and prayer it is no longer wine at all, but the actual blood and body of my God Jesus Christ. It is no longer the intoxicating/drug beverage made from grapes, it is human/divine blood, actual blood, not symbolic, and this I believe with sincere conviction.

The mushrooms are the same, though they may technically get you intoxicated like Communion Wine, the belief and intention of their use shifts the defining of what they are. After all, I do not take Communion to get the drug affects of the alcohol that I am consuming at the time.

[and on a side, sonic youth moment note, when we take communion we chant "Ineffible Ineffible Ineffible Holy Trinity...' and no matter what, always, for three years now! i hear in my head hear kim sing "ineffible.."]


I see where you're coming from, but I don't look at mushrooms like that.

A lot of people I know see shrooms as a power, and feel like they've found something or other once their trip is done.

When I do mushrooms, get get high and trip out. When it's over, I either try to go to sleep or I just pass out. Nothing found, nothing lost, just a good time.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 08.29.2008 03:23 PM

It's a poison fucking with your brain making you "trip sac".
A few of my friends just got shrooms last night.
Too much fucking money for me though, man. I'll stick with liquer.

EMMAh 08.29.2008 03:27 PM

Yessss, poison.

I don't do them anymore, maybe sometime in the future though.

Rather spend what money I have on weed.

atsonicpark 08.29.2008 03:29 PM

Mushrooms are awesome. I just laugh and watch tv and see the people coming out of the screen. Actually, I felt like everything was like the movie Videodrome when I did them. Except hilarious.

I could NOT stop laughing. I DROWNED in laughter.

atsonicpark 08.29.2008 03:30 PM

But yeah, definitely a drug. I'd like to get some more and do some more before I say anything else. I guess technically you can use them to do powerful things and they open up your mind.. they helped me deal with some shit that was bothering me at the time.. but I dunno.

floatingslowly 08.29.2008 03:31 PM

I always thought they were fungi, funguy.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 08.29.2008 03:31 PM

Actually they are.

EMMAh 08.29.2008 03:32 PM

If anything is bothering me, I will not do shrooms. I've learned my lesson.

Cantankerous 08.29.2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Mushrooms are awesome. I just laugh and watch tv and see the people coming out of the screen. Actually, I felt like everything was like the movie Videodrome when I did them. Except hilarious.

I could NOT stop laughing. I DROWNED in laughter.

drug.

nothing spiritual is going on here.

girlgun 08.29.2008 06:20 PM

my thoughts:

i don't do drugs anymore, but that said... i always preferred acid to mushrooms. if you're gonna get fucked, GET FUCKED.

Cantankerous 08.29.2008 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by girlgun
my thoughts:

i don't do drugs anymore, but that said... i always preferred acid to mushrooms. if you're gonna get fucked, GET FUCKED.

this.

atsonicpark 08.29.2008 06:51 PM

Heh, why not do METH then if you really wanna get fucked.

MellySingsDoom 08.29.2008 08:02 PM

Mushrooms are a psychotropic drug. I used to likes them a lot, but they still drugs, at the end of the day.


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