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phoenix 11.03.2008 05:56 PM

why the world should vote in US presidential elections
 
This would be a super idea.

Since the US government feels the need to consistantly provide excessive input to other political states agendas and budget.

Half of the US doesnt vote anyway, so its not like y'all give a shit about losing yr vote to someone else..


It is highly likely many foreign citizens have a better grasp on US foreign policy than US citizens do

It is highly likely many foreign citizens have a better grasp on US policy than US citizens do

davenotdead 11.03.2008 05:58 PM

no.

phoenix 11.03.2008 05:59 PM

why not?

they want all the power, and to give all nations 'democracy'

pbradley 11.03.2008 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix
This would be a super idea.

Since the US government feels the need to consistantly provide excessive input to other political states agendas and budget.

Half of the US doesnt vote anyway, so its not like y'all give a shit about losing yr vote to someone else..


It is highly likely many foreign citizens have a better grasp on US foreign policy than US citizens do

It is highly likely many foreign citizens have a better grasp on US policy than US citizens do

Prove your claims.

pbradley 11.03.2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
they want all the power, and to give all nations 'democracy'

Neoconservatism =/= the entire United States of America

You're failing your own second-to-last point.

phoenix 11.03.2008 06:02 PM

I'll do street polling and get back to you in 18months.


I will also accept marriage proposals from any american so I can then vote.

davenotdead 11.03.2008 06:02 PM

this would invite so much chaos, baby

pbradley 11.03.2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
I'll do street polling and get back to you in 18months.

Why do you need polls to prove the self-evident intellectual superiority of Europeans?

phoenix 11.03.2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Neoconservatism =/= the entire United States of America


no, not at all.

However as a whole you are represented by your government.

The person the majority of americans have chosen to send to the inter-country sports and debating and council meetings for the last 8 years is a bully and a retard.

davenotdead 11.03.2008 06:06 PM

omg, can you imagine the chad from the entire East Asia?? these people can't even find their way around LAX without getting lost, how the fuck are they supposed to know how to vote?

this would never work phoenix

Toilet & Bowels 11.03.2008 06:06 PM

i hope mccain wins tomorrow so that he'll die and then sarah palin can become presidentess/presidette.

dazedcola 11.03.2008 06:09 PM

i think its disgusting that only 54% of America votes when it affects 100% of us.

phoenix 11.03.2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Why do you need polls to prove the self-evident intellectual superiority of Europeans?


who said anything about just europeans? I just believe that for the most part, non US citizens are more culturally and politically aware of their outside surroundings than US citizens.

The concept of coexisting has been around for a lot longer in european states than it has in the americas. The americas dont have to coexist, the united states just hits people until it gets what it wants at the price it wants. And if it doesnt have anyone to hit then they hit themselves and have a civil war.

phoenix 11.03.2008 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dazedcola
i think its disgusting that only 54% of America votes when it affects 100% of us.



plus the rest of the world.

if it makes you mad that people don't vote, imagine how angry it makes those people in countries where, they not only cannot vote for their own leader, but also rely on another country electing a leader who does not want to blow up their country. How lost and hopeless you might feel. And angry at the apathy of the priviledged.

davenotdead 11.03.2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dazedcola
i think its disgusting that only 54% of America votes when it affects 100% of us.



get better military/economy? lol....

but seriously, i was sitting in the library on friday, and some guy was saying he waited 2 and a half hours, and he got there early... i'm guessing 4 hours for people in the afternoon... plus, that was early voting... and i don't wake up early

phoenix 11.03.2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
omg, can you imagine the chad from the entire East Asia?? these people can't even find their way around LAX without getting lost, how the fuck are they supposed to know how to vote?

this would never work phoenix


what are you talking about? you mean intelligence has a bearing on whether someone should vote or not?

surely then it should mean they should not be then allowed to be IN the drivers seat.

oh wait.

pbradley 11.03.2008 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix
no, not at all.

However as a whole you are represented by your government.

The person the majority of americans have chosen to send to the inter-country sports and debating and council meetings for the last 8 years is a bully and a retard.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110806/Bu...ew-Low-27.aspx

akprodr 11.03.2008 06:14 PM

USians voted Bush in twice (well, once anyway). Say no more. Let intelligent people vote.

phoenix 11.03.2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
get better military/economy? lol....

but seriously, i was sitting in the library on friday, and some guy was saying he waited 2 and a half hours, and he got there early... i'm guessing 4 hours for people in the afternoon... plus, that was early voting... and i don't wake up early


your government makes it this hard because your apathy means they can continue to rape the world without revolt. Its strange that a country that can apparently achieve so much cannot even successfully hold a ballot.

davenotdead 11.03.2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
what are you talking about? you mean intelligence has a bearing on whether someone should vote or not?

surely then it should mean they should not be then allowed to be IN the drivers seat.

oh wait.


i'm not saying whether they should or shouldn't... i'm just saying if Florida has trouble, and its only half-hispanic, then inviting all of the other nations of the world is just not plausible


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