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jon boy 11.04.2008 11:03 PM

obama wins then
 
by the looks of things

Sonic Youth 37 11.04.2008 11:04 PM

That's the long and short of it.

He'd like to thank the Academy...

jon boy 11.04.2008 11:07 PM

how much of a kicking are the republicans going to take i wonder?

Sonic Youth 37 11.04.2008 11:08 PM

I hope McCain concedes soon. I've got shit to do.

krastian 11.04.2008 11:13 PM

He just called Obama to congratulate him apparantly.

This shit ended a lot quicker then it did the past 2 elections for sure.

hollller etc.

krastian 11.04.2008 11:35 PM

Tonight feels like New Years Eve or something.


Like a glorious cleansing and hope for the future.

tesla69 11.05.2008 02:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NENK3ILEIho

greedrex 11.05.2008 03:49 AM

BRAVO!!!

sarramkrop 11.05.2008 06:18 AM

Wait until he is faced with the sorry mess left for him to deal with before you jump with joy. Didn't the same thing happen when Blair won the elections in Britain and people were like 'wow! changes, new era, and all that crap'. Get real, he will be capable of doing worse things if promped, and the chances are that he will have to make tougher decisions than his predecessors.

atsonicpark 11.05.2008 06:20 AM

Shocking news: Obama wins!

*a year later*

Shocking news: Everything is EXACTLY the same as it was when he became president, maybe even worse!

drrrtyboots 11.05.2008 06:31 AM

Damn all you debbie downers. It's at least exciting to see we have the first black, if even only half-black, president ever. This is huge.

MellySingsDoom 11.05.2008 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Wait until he is faced with the sorry mess left for him to deal with before you jump with joy. Didn't the same thing happen when Blair won the elections in Britain and people were like 'wow! changes, new era, and all that crap'. Get real, he will be capable of doing worse things if promped, and the chances are that he will have to make tougher decisions than his predecessors.


He will have to make a LOT of unpopular decisions, but I'd rather an unpopular but competent leader anyday, as opposed to the populism of Blair et al. The US econemy in recession, the endless Iraq/Afghanistan situation, the even more endless Israel/Palestine issue, the problems with access to oil and other natural resources, the healthcare/welfare issue....Barack's in-tray is going to be a very full one, to be sure.

ploesj 11.05.2008 06:36 AM

i bet the next president will be a black disabled lesbian.

sarramkrop 11.05.2008 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drrrtyboots
Damn all you debbie downers. It's at least exciting to see we have the first black, if even only half-black, president ever. This is huge.


I'm afraid being a black leader isn't enough to be a good president. Same as if you were from any other ethnic background. Maybe you forget that even though he is a black president, that certainly doesn't mean he is going to do good things for all black people.

Melly - The competence of a president (and said thing is highly disputable) shows only while they're in office dealing with things, not by what they say they will do in an election campaign.

Trasher02 11.05.2008 07:02 AM

Bummer for you Mccain!

MellySingsDoom 11.05.2008 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Melly - The competence of a president (and said thing is highly disputable) shows only while they're in office dealing with things, not by what they say they will do in an election campaign.


Indeedy - I think I mentioned in another thread that I await to see whether Barack has the substance to back up the rhetoric.

atari 2600 11.05.2008 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Indeedy - I think I mentioned in another thread that I await to see whether Barack has the substance to back up the rhetoric.


Well, there's a House and Senate Democratic majority. The only snag is that the Democrats have some 56 senators, but needed 60 to stave off any Republican filibusters.

scott v 11.05.2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I'm afraid being a black leader isn't enough to be a good president. Same as if you were from any other ethnic background. Maybe you forget that even though he is a black president, that certainly doesn't mean he is going to do good things for all black people.

Melly - The competence of a president (and said thing is highly disputable) shows only while they're in office dealing with things, not by what they say they will do in an election campaign.



as always as americans really don't have much choice but to believe and trust in the "system" at this point and not just who is in the oval office. i can't help to think that along with the important issues mentioned above, at stake is the supreme court positions that need to be replaced during Obama's term and that will certainly have a huge effect for years down the road. I strongly believe that the adminstration of the last 8 years has set this country back in many ways by 20+ years, and the recovery of such will be long and hard, unfortnately what Barrack is faced with is quite terrifying to think about.

floatingslowly 11.05.2008 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Maybe you forget that even though he is a black president, that certainly doesn't mean he is going to do good things for all black people.


I've been wondering how many people understand this. I guess: "not many".

time will tell.


Quote:

Originally Posted by drrrtyboots
only half-black


racist.

speaking of, I heard that Nader was on NPR ruminating over whether Obama will be "an Uncle Sam or an Uncle Tom".

bad choice of words imo.

afterthefact 11.05.2008 10:08 AM

I'm just waiting for the asteroids and alien invasions! Don't you all watch movies?!?


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