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Rob Instigator 06.02.2009 12:55 PM

Henry Miller - No fan of new york
 
"gets worse all the time."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swzQP...layer_embedded

gualbert 06.02.2009 01:03 PM

!!
I thought it was the greatest, coolest city of the world!

demonrail666 06.02.2009 01:06 PM

I don't know when that was filmed but it looks almost like a studio mock up of the city about a hundred years ago.

Tokolosh 06.02.2009 01:09 PM

As if Paris was/is any different...
Cool vid.

demonrail666 06.02.2009 01:14 PM

When you're from somewhere, you have a strangely distorted view of a place.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2009 01:15 PM

I love hearing old men cuss it up.

henry miller, even in his disgust at NYC, is probably even more disgusted by the mainstream spectacle times square has become.

gualbert 06.02.2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
When you're from somewhere, you have a strangely distorted view of a place.

And when you live thousands of kms away, you know all about it?
haha!

demonrail666 06.02.2009 01:18 PM

Times Square was obviously my biggest disappointment when i visited NY. Although i did know that it was crap before I went. On the whole though I loved the place.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2009 01:20 PM

I will be there next week tuesday and wednesday, or is it wednesday and thursday? cannot remember.

yay!

road trip begins on saturday!!!!!!!!!

demonrail666 06.02.2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert
And when you live thousands of kms away, you know all about it?
haha!


Not at all. Distorted was probably the wrong word. What i meant was that someone who grows up in a place has a very intimate understanding of it that people who haven't might not relate to.

gualbert 06.02.2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokolosh
As if Paris was/is any different...
Cool vid.

Paris is ten times smaller, that's quite a difference.
(but it's an horrible place, it may be a similarity)

gmku 06.02.2009 01:22 PM

Tropic of Cancer. Great book.

Tokolosh 06.02.2009 01:22 PM

Sounds like he wasn't getting laid much at the end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert
Paris is ten times smaller, that's quite a difference.
(but it's an horrible place, it may be a similarity)


Paris is horrible, in a good way.

demonrail666 06.02.2009 01:24 PM

I have to admit that Henry miller is one author I've never been able to get into. I read Capricorn and Cancer but just didn't see it at all. I should give him another go. I read them when I was about 16, which may have been a bit young.

gualbert 06.02.2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Not at all. Distorted was probably the wrong word. What i meant was that someone who grows up in a place has a very intimate understanding of it that people who haven't might not relate to.

Ok.You meant "subjective".

demonrail666 06.02.2009 01:27 PM

Yeah, but 'subjective' sounds a bit too dismissive (although admittedly not as bad as 'distorted'). Intimate suggests a more deeper understanding.

the ikara cult 06.02.2009 01:55 PM

tropic of cancer wasnt as enjoyable as id been led to believe

Glice 06.02.2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I have to admit that Henry miller is one author I've never been able to get into. I read Capricorn and Cancer but just didn't see it at all. I should give him another go. I read them when I was about 16, which may have been a bit young.


From you, this astonishes me. Miller, I maintain, was like the beats but had a much firmer grip on his subservience to better writers. By which I mean he dicks about with stream of consciousness but doesn't quite turn into the mawkish terror that is Kerouac. He talks like a snake-oil charmer but is just Jewish enough to get away with it - sorry, Burroughs acolytes. Also, he's a bit of a pathetic character, something I've always found lacking from a lot of American writers - someone like Easton-Ellis always heads towards this pseudo-nihilism that just galls.

Ok, so I've just insulted most of your taste in books, but a lot of you really need to stop reading like a 19-year-old.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2009 02:26 PM

burroughs is boring

afterthefact 06.02.2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I have to admit that Henry miller is one author I've never been able to get into. I read Capricorn and Cancer but just didn't see it at all. I should give him another go. I read them when I was about 16, which may have been a bit young.


I read Tropics Of Cancer and loved it.

I read Colossus Of Maroussi and couldn't even finish it.

Either I'm a perv, or he is just hit or miss with me.


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