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davenotdead 10.13.2009 12:36 AM

why doesn't anyone around here talk about arthur russell?
 
??

don't tell me nobody else here is into him. just don't.

start talking fggts :mad:

atsonicpark 10.13.2009 02:25 AM

i used to have a secret slight disdain for reading Very New Bleeding Edge Research papers because i always felt like they built atop so many mountains of research that i would never begin to comprehend them without starting with some more fundamental paper that developed the seed ideas to begin with. but now that i've read a bunch of "classic papers" for karl's class, i'm starting to realize that sometimes the papers that build on a body of work give a much cleaner, more concise presentation of the old ideas, and sometimes these old papers are really darn crufty, in the sense that the meat of them is addressing an audience that needed to be convinced that these ideas were worth their salt, and these days we either think it's obvious (because they've become mainstream) or nonsensical (because they never caught on). i still enjoy it, but it's certainly in large part a historical undertaking, and i think only the gentzen paper (on natural deduction and sequent calculus) actually met my idealized vision of "pure, beautiful, old ideas, though new at the time, presented in a way that makes them crystal clear that they are Great."

Rob Instigator 10.13.2009 08:33 AM

never heard of leon russell

Toilet & Bowels 10.13.2009 10:03 AM

he's had lots of critical acclaim in the last few years but i find his music a bit dull

TheFoxBen 10.13.2009 10:22 AM

I don't know what to think about World of Echo... Weird record.

chicka 10.13.2009 11:59 AM

Leon Russell and Arthur Russell are two different musicians. I've never heard Arthur so he's on the
scene now. Leon goes back to the 60's and 70's where
he played a lot with Joe Cocker. Then stepped out on his own. Sort of a bluesy R&B piano player with a gruffy voice.

Rob Instigator 10.13.2009 12:08 PM

maybe you should share some arthur russell and get us started talking about him??

davenotdead 10.13.2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
he's had lots of critical acclaim in the last few years but i find his music a bit dull


what have you heard?

his voice/lyrics are the most sincere i've heard. he's genius

rob, here's a couple good tracks you should hear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq5gjfN5lns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVYHGQ31ZjA

Rob Instigator 10.13.2009 01:31 PM

not bad. he plays the cello ay?
cellos are great.
don;ty know why you would expect to see threads or discussions about him here though. he is better than leon russell

davenotdead 10.13.2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
not bad. he plays the cello ay?
cellos are great.
don;ty know why you would expect to see threads or discussions about him here though. he is better than leon russell


yeah he does cello, and electronic stuff. he did a bunch of dance tracks which were pretty popular with the nyc underground crowd in the late 70s/80s.

i'd expect to see threads/discussions about him because he is great, and pretty notoriously died of aids, and was a genius overall.

his stuff is heartbreaking to uplifting. pop to alt-country to disco/electronic.

and he was WAY ahead of his time.

i did a search yesterday and was just a bit shocked that nothing came up. with how many threads we have about nirvana/misfits/merzbow/whatever... arthur is genius and deserves to be heard

davenotdead 10.13.2009 01:44 PM

here's a review : http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review...ld-of-echo.htm

philip glass said this about him: "This was a guy who could sit down with a cello and sing with it in a way that no one on this Earth has ever done before, or will do so again."

Rob Instigator 10.13.2009 01:59 PM

hel, I find it odd that people here talk about bob fucking dylan.

Toilet & Bowels 10.13.2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davenotdead
what have you heard?


i don't know, but enough to know it's not my cup of tea

davenotdead 10.13.2009 09:07 PM

he's not bob dylan...

he's 'experimental' ... that should fit on this board. or would you guys rather watch Gossip Girl with Thurston?

chairman of the bored 10.13.2009 10:12 PM

i love arthur russell...or what i've heard from him...'love is overtaking me' is an awesome posthumous release...a nice mixture of country, folk, weirdo cello ballads about dogs and pseudo-disco...err, it's alot better than it sounds

i've failed to get anyone else interested in him

EVOLghost 10.14.2009 08:59 PM

the tracks you shared were not bad Dave.

davenotdead 10.14.2009 10:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO2F48JKIlo

glad you guys are liking it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKG-xX7rov0

dionysusundone 10.15.2009 01:49 AM

Some of the groups I'm into reference his 'disco' records. Which ones are those?

davenotdead 10.15.2009 02:17 AM

Springfield, probably.

i don't think he has a full 'album' of 'disco' ...
"In the Light of the Miracle" is his big disco track, and it has several variations and appears on a couple different comps/albums

davenotdead 10.15.2009 03:41 AM

http://www.last.fm/music/Arthur+Russell/+wiki

forgot he did stuff with Ginsberg and David Byrne. that's pretty damn syg relevant.


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