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cheguevara6 09.09.2006 09:21 PM

september 11th
 
Wanted to pose some questions here:

1. Why is september 11th refered to as the "worst act of terrorism in our nations history? Anyone with any background in history, or anyone who makes a cursory look at history will notice atrocities occuring on american soil, or what is now american soil, all the way back to when Columbus "discovered" America. Columbus and his men, would rape the Arawak, sic dogs on them, beat them, and set them on fire at the stake in groups of thirteens (christians know what this is in reference to). White "settlers" massacred an entire people. Native Americans were nearly exterminated. 10's of millions of Africans were transported from Africa to America for a lovely life of beatings, whippings and backbreaking work all to serve whites. 10's of millions of Africans died along the way in the so called Middle Passage. From the 1800's until the mid 1950's, black men were routinely hung/lynched for crimes they may or may not have committed, many revolving around the idea of a black man raped a white woman. The act of enslaving an entire people, is that not a terrorist act? How about giving Native Americans small pox? Or the continueing enslavement of blacks in jails and prisons, or the wanton brutality involved in the wholesale murder of many black males at the hand of raving lunatic pigs in inner cities? The murder of millions of Vietnamese, and use of napalm, is that terrorism? How about the murder of hundreds of thousands of people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima? The forced internment of Japanese Americans, that surely is not a terrorist act right?

Do those atrocities not constitute a terrorist actions? Are we so blind in society that we only care about ourselves? As Noam chomsky said, "september 11th wasnt extraordinary, what was, was the victim" (ie americans).

2. As a society we have to realize as Noam Chomsky suggested to even pursue the war against terror, is laughable. This barb is aimed at both parties. The fact that america is the single greatest purveyor of violence in our nations history makes it laughable we should want to eradicate it. If you feel thats too extreme, none other that MLK said that. He wasnt all that extreme in politics. He wasnt calling for seperatist ideas as malcolm was.
In your opinion is it even worth it to pursue this war on terrorism that is actually, terrorism!?

3. The fact we as a society fail to understand, we were hit on septemeber 11th not because of our freedoms. People under taliban rule didnt bomb a abortion clinic or a antiwar rally or a progun rally. They bombed the WTC because of our foreign policy. Until we realize that, nothing will change.

As ward churchill said :"stop killing our kids, if you want your own to be safe."

porkmarras 09.09.2006 09:24 PM

Hush up Tokolosh!

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.09.2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheguevara6
Wanted to pose some questions here:

1. Why is september 11th refered to as the "worst act of terrorism in our nations history? Anyone with any background in history, or anyone who makes a cursory look at history will notice atrocities occuring on american soil, or what is now american soil, all the way back to when Columbus "discovered" America. Columbus and his men, would rape the Arawak, sic dogs on them, beat them, and set them on fire at the stake in groups of thirteens (christians know what this is in reference to). White "settlers" massacred an entire people. Native Americans were nearly exterminated. 10's of millions of Africans were transported from Africa to America for a lovely life of beatings, whippings and backbreaking work all to serve whites. 10's of millions of Africans died along the way in the so called Middle Passage. From the 1800's until the mid 1950's, black men were routinely hung/lynched for crimes they may or may not have committed, many revolving around the idea of a black man raped a white woman. The act of enslaving an entire people, is that not a terrorist act? How about giving Native Americans small pox? Or the continueing enslavement of blacks in jails and prisons, or the wanton brutality involved in the wholesale murder of many black males at the hand of raving lunatic pigs in inner cities? The murder of millions of Vietnamese, and use of napalm, is that terrorism? How about the murder of hundreds of thousands of people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima? The forced internment of Japanese Americans, that surely is not a terrorist act right?

Do those atrocities not constitute a terrorist actions? Are we so blind in society that we only care about ourselves? As Noam chomsky said, "september 11th wasnt extraordinary, what was, was the victim" (ie americans).

2. As a society we have to realize as Noam Chomsky suggested to even pursue the war against terror, is laughable. This barb is aimed at both parties. The fact that america is the single greatest purveyor of violence in our nations history makes it laughable we should want to eradicate it. If you feel thats too extreme, none other that MLK said that. He wasnt all that extreme in politics. He wasnt calling for seperatist ideas as malcolm was.
In your opinion is it even worth it to pursue this war on terrorism that is actually, terrorism!?

3. The fact we as a society fail to understand, we were hit on septemeber 11th not because of our freedoms. People under taliban rule didnt bomb a abortion clinic or a antiwar rally or a progun rally. They bombed the WTC because of our foreign policy. Until we realize that, nothing will change.

As ward churchill said :"stop killing our kids, if you want your own to be safe."


are you a terrorist?

Alex's Trip 09.09.2006 09:32 PM

You large sig is annoying...

umjammer atomsk 09.09.2006 09:35 PM

Uh huh.

Alex's Trip 09.09.2006 09:38 PM

I blocked all the images...

umjammer atomsk 09.09.2006 09:40 PM

I forgot about that function. Thanks.

GeneticKiss 09.09.2006 09:40 PM

Agreed. I vote that signatures be regulated as far as size goes.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.09.2006 09:41 PM

get over it

Alex's Trip 09.09.2006 09:56 PM

Don't worry, we'll just block 'em again when you put new equally annoying and equally unfunny animations/pictures. We won't speak of them either.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.09.2006 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
Don't worry, we'll just block 'em again when you put new equally annoying and equally unfunny animations/pictures. We won't speak of them either.


i dont give a fuck
you do what you have to do

its the internet, get over it

Daycare Nation 09.09.2006 10:38 PM

I like the sig.

Love,
Daycare

hey alex 09.09.2006 10:43 PM

weavacopter

flophousefloozie 09.09.2006 11:03 PM

I idn't know you could block them. how can I?

flophousefloozie 09.09.2006 11:03 PM

is mine annoying? if so i'll delete it..

qprogeny79 09.10.2006 11:08 PM

quoting noam chomsky as an authoritative figure on politics is like quoting the antichrist as an authoritative figure on piety.

golden child 09.10.2006 11:13 PM

yawn

Alex's Trip 09.10.2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
i dont give a fuck
you do what you have to do

its the internet, get over it

I don't have anything to get over, you're the one who seems to have the issues here. I said the sig annoyed me, I blocked the images, thus doing what I had to do. And here you are, yelling at me for doing exactly what you want me to.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.11.2006 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I don't have anything to get over, you're the one who seems to have the issues here. I said the sig annoyed me, I blocked the images, thus doing what I had to do. And here you are, yelling at me for doing exactly what you want me to.


my bad, didnt read that bit

dietzer123 09.11.2006 12:59 AM

let's discuss noam chomsky's studies in linguistics. that's where the real funs at anyways


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