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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
blagojevich is an innocent baby next to berlusconi
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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
It ain't no Vietnam...for damned sure. Especially from the soldier's perspective.
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thats a selfish perspective. the worst part of Vietnam was not the draft, it was destroying a country. In Iraq, we destroyed a country. It wasn't necessarily a good country, but regardless we destroyed it. In its own way our soldiers now are in a weirder circumstance because they are literally mercenaries, career soldiers, some volunteer, some out of circumstance, some have been brainwashed and manipulated and out-right lied to by shady commission seeking recruiters who troll highschools and colleges..
but what's fucked up about Iraq is that we fucked up Iraq, and all our money and our society contributed to this, even if inadvertently, and that same flag we make our kids pledge allegiance to was plastered up at the point of the gun across that country.. much like in Vietnam, we created a whole second society in Iraq, Iraqis who have been affiliated with the US during the War who face many insecurities in the near future, so they will probably end up like the two million "South" Vietnamese government officials and soldiers who came to the US or at least left Vietnam fleeing the "communists" (for nothing by the way, my friends' families are all in Vietnam in Saigon since the 1950s and they tell me that in all honesty the 'communists' did not bring about any of the kinds of retaliation they feared at the time..)
There are coincidentally at least two million Iraqi refugees, but unlike the Vietnamese, most of these are not in the US, they are scattered across already exasperated Middle-Eastern countries...
Fuck the War. Fuck Everything About It. the sooner it ends, so sooner we can all breathe a bit easier for a brief moment and brace ourselves for the next one.
Thank God they left.. lets keep it up.