[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Donkey Kong Country is absolute garbage. Those gams are so terrible. So so so terrible.

You're out of your mind. Lay off the uppers. The 3rd game may not have been so hot, but the first 2 are absolutely brilliant. The barrels, the vine swinging, the bouncy tires, the animals, the fun characters... I adore it all.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Your list of games was a joke, btw. Stunt Race FX? Yoshi's Safari? Piltowings? KILLER INSTINCT (horrible game, unless you have no interest in fighting games as a serious genre)?! Those are not games you want to throw in someone's face when trying to defend the SNES (which, btw, is a great system, one I still own -- though, only for Tetris Attack, Metroid, and Yoshi's Island). Also, Wario's Woods was on the NES originally, and was a lot better.

My list on the last page had lots of great SNES games that were somewhat obscure, but I could easily, at the top of my head, make a list of 300-400 great Genesis games with no problem. I thin you seem to to only talk about the most mainstream, obvious choices -- for both systems. Not many people know the game Ranger X, but everyone who has played it for the Genesis will say that it's better than just about any SNES game ever. Also, ALISIA DRAGOON is better than most SNES platformers. Have you even played Gunstar Heroes, BTW?

He asked for a list of first party gems. I genuinely enjoy every game on my list a shit-ton (aside from maybe Pilotwings, but that title is definitely classic enough to be on an SNES collection). I forgot that lack of popularity = quality...

And I've played the GBA version of Gunstar Heroes. I like it. It's fun.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I'd say there are about 10-15 completely indispensable games for the SNES, ones that are impossible to live wiuthout, that every gamer needs to play through. I think, in that case, it definitely has more games than the Genesis in that field. But if you just want to talk about an extremely complete, brilliant, amazing system, encompassing all genres... THE GENESIS is where it's at.

Making it a worse system...what?? huh??? Are you drunk or something?

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

No offense, but I really would not use Killer Instinct or the Donkey Kong Country games in any kind of argument if you expect to try to makea case for the quality of the SNES. Those games are embarassing. Funnily enough, Donkey Kong Country looks like a masterpiece next to Donkey Kong 64, maybe my most hated game of all time.

One more thing I'd like to focus on is EXCLUSIVES: the reason to own the Genesis is because of all the EXCLUSIVES; most of those games never ended up anywhere else (except for that recent ps3/xbox port and in some Japanese collections). You can't find Gunstar Heroes or Dynammite Heady or Light Crusader or Landstalker or Beyond Oasis or Ranger X or Pulseman or Granda or Truxton or Subterania anywhere else! Ever! But the SNES? The GBA version of Yoshi's Island is better. The DS version of Tetris Attack is better. The GBA version of Mario World is better. The GBA version of Breath of Fire II is better. The DS version of Chrono Trigger is better. Link to the Past on GBA is better. It goes on and on and on and on (though Super Metroid has never had any re-releases, strangely -- neither did Earthbound, aexcept in Japan, and Super Mario RPG -- the Paper Mario games arew better than Mario RPG, BTW). So, really, the Genesis is a smarter choice of a system to buy if you want some exclusive games.

So the SNES sucks because many of it's games were so classic that they were ported (and slightly modified) to later consoles? Seriously Adam, I couldn't disagree with you more.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Anyway, if you want your mind blown bt the snes, play that R2 game I was talking about a few days ago, play some Enix classics like EVO, Terranigma, Illusion of Gaia, etc. It will hopefully make you forget about Rare. (and don't get me wrong, I thought donkey Kong Country was awesome when I was 10 years old but...)

Sega was basically the best releaser in the world of truly hardcore games, which is why they failed, since most peopel wouldr ather play boring, obvious crap.

I've played Illusion of Gaia. It's one of my favorite RPGs on the console...yet I still like Rare because they make great games (or at least they used to)!

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Also, you don't like Sonic games? Haha.. what?! YOU'D RATHER PLAY DONKEY KONG COUNTRY THAN SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 2? Sorry, man, no one's going to take you seriously after that one, bro.

OH YEAH, nobody will ever take me seriously for liking Donkey Kong Country more than a Sonic game. It's not like there's masses on both sides of the fence with that one or anything like that. You're just being an idiotic troll now, dude, bro, homie.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

At least we can all agree that the XBOX is probably the worst system ever made.

I'd rather play an XBOX than an Intellivison any day.

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