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Old 02.06.2012, 06:05 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Yeah...obvious typos. Fixed and sorry.


now it's a very fucking quotable post. really, it's fucking great. it's a perfect little verbal bullet.

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
The atheist doesn't know for a fact that there is not a god (damned sure not in the same sense that the believer claims to know for a fact that there is one). Again, we tend to believe there isn't one for the very simple fact that there is no evidence of god, there for no reason to acknowledge the existence of one. That, and god in the way god in generally described is not very likely.


what you're describing i think is agnosticism, not atheism. agnostics profess their ignorance, whereas atheists are more firmly in the "no god" camp; having said that, the denial of the existence of gods is not so much a faith as a reasonable inference from experience. still, those sorts of inferences are often challenged by shit of this type:


 


no! that can't exist!

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I know that dumb quote "you still have to have faith to not believe in god"....it doesn't work like that on any level though.


it does require a conviction of sorts to say "that which i don't know, cannot exist", but i wouldn't call it "faith". refer to atheist vs. agnostic position.

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Much easier to embrace the fact that there are things we don't yet understand than to say "god did it".

it's actually not easier, but it's more honest-- big truths tend to make people develop headaches, mistrust of authority, and all sorts of socially inconvenient attitudes and behaviors, so it's easier to shove all the mysterious dirt under the god carpet.
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