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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Agnostics tend to be on the fence, not really sure either way. I'm damned near sure god doesn't exist, just not enough to say "I know for a fact...". I don't trust anyone that claims to know for a fact either way.
Yeah, the whole believing in god thing tends to be convenient for most. It also causes a lot of trouble.
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So what are you waiting for, a personal experience one way or the other? I am quite curious what would be the defining factors for the definitive answer in the atheistic direction. I agree with of all y'all that God can not be proven, but I'm a psychedelic, existentially we realistically can never prove ANYTHING actually exists in any kind of way in 100% absolutes, perception makes reality entirely subjective. That being said, I am well versed in the kinds of affirmative religious experiences, but I've never really thought about it philosophically as to what is the convincing 100% argument against any kind of deities or spiritual entities beyond physical perception.