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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I do not understand where you get this from. guys talk to guys about women. women talk to women about guys. so what?
you assume a LOT, and are assigning intent based on a few words on a screen.
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so women are forced to put up with men talking about them in ways they find demeaning in spaces that they share?
women talk about guys, yeah, but it's not the same thing, not by far. please stop creating this false symmetry and false equality that doesn't exist.
if you're not going to watch the video and comment on it, then i'm going to have to assume you don't want to take this discussion seriously. you just want to find excuses to tell me why i shouldn't complain when i see behaviour that upsets me.
besides, if anyone puts sexism/racism in the mix they simply cannot get a good reaction from me. in fact, kpp made some good points about that, also ignored.
you say you're open to self-analysis but it really doesn't seem that way... it just seems that you're being defensive.
and if that's really, really hard for you... why not save it for all-boy spaces specific for getting reassurance of your manhood by making objetifying comments? why do you feel that i should handle things that make me feel uncomfortable by simply shutting up?
i get that you're really not that interested in learning more about gender issues... but if a woman tells you that she finds something demeaning SHOULD THAT NOT BE ENOUGH?